Casino Question for the Gamblers

[DiamondPlusCruiser]

A friend of mine is considering joining us on a cruise, however he's a big gambler and wants to know if the casino pays "odds on bets" at the craps tables.. I have no idea what this means so if anyone out there is a craps player, hopefully you can answer my question.

 

Thanks!

[Lady_Gamecock]

A friend of mine is considering joining us on a cruise, however he's a big gambler and wants to know if the casino pays "odds on bets" at the craps tables.. I have no idea what this means so if anyone out there is a craps player, hopefully you can answer my question.

 

Thanks!

 

Yes, they do, but I can not remember what they are..... Not as good as most Vegas Casinos (obviously) and it's a $5 MIN bet.

 

Lady_G

[DiamondPlusCruiser]

Thanks for the fast reply... all he's worried about is them having "Vegas style craps tables with odds on bets"... apparently he cruised once a long time ago and the casino either didn't have craps or didn't have odds on bets.. again, I have no idea what this means so I appreciate you help :)

[Daghis]

I would imagine he's asking about "Pass Line Odds" or "Come Odds". These are the best bets of the whole casino because they have no house advantage whatsoever. You are paid at their true odds.

 

Of course, because they are such good bets for the player, they aren't even marked on the craps table. They're almost a secret bet! :)

 

To place a "Pass Line Odds" bet, you have your "Pass Line" bet in play with a point established (which you are trying to roll a second time before "sevening out" (rolling a 7)), and you place the Odds bet behind your Pass Line bet.

 

Most Vegas casinos limit how much you can place for the Odds bet to be 3x, 4x, or 5x your Pass Line bet depending on whether the point is 4 or 10, 5 or 9, or 6 or 8, respectively.

 

I don't yet know what the rules on the Royal Caribbean ships are, but I will in a few days! :D

[swong13]

I'm afraid that your gambler friend won't like the RCI casinos for craps. Odds bets on the craps table are 1X.

 

-Steven

[cruiseco]

I was on the Monarch last Super Bowl weekend and I'd swear the odds were 2X but I could be wrong. They might have been 1X. However, since the casino was packed most of the time and only had one craps table the minimum was never lower than $10 and at times was bumped to $25. Not as good of a deal as going to some of those old beat-up casinos in downtown Las Vegas where the minimum is $1 and they let you take up to 100X odds if you don't mind hanging out with a "colorful" crowd that may use your shoe for a cuspidor.

[cb at sea]

The max I ever saw on an RCI craps table, was 3X odds. Not at all like Vegas.

But, if he likes craps, he'll still enjoy playing.

[cruzincurt]

Craps table...that's where I'll be.

 

I've seen 1X and 2X but have never seen the table minimums raised to $10. On HAL, some nights only me and the DW were tossing the bones.

[sunnysc]

If anyone has tried blackjack on the Mariner, can you tell me if they used one of those continuous shuffling machines?

[atlaturne]

A friend of mine is considering joining us on a cruise, however he's a big gambler and wants to know if the casino pays "odds on bets" at the craps tables.. I have no idea what this means so if anyone out there is a craps player, hopefully you can answer my question.

 

Thanks!

please look at the question I asked earlier today as to that issue

[hawkfish]

please look at the question I asked earlier today as to that issue

 

It sounds like the answer is no, they don't play odds. The odds would be different for every bet that you make in craps, and there are multitudes. I frankly don't remember, but it sounds like the answer here is 'no'. But if the house does play odds, it actually puts a handful of craps bets in YOUR favor, not the house. (little known secret - they just bet on the fact that most people are intimidated by craps).

 

I will be sailing in 2 weeks - I can let you know then.

 

But I don't know that it should be a cruise deal breaker.

[cruzincurt]

I think the question is "pay" odds rather than "play" odds.

 

At a minimum, they will pay for 1X odds bets if you back up your PASS LINE bet which is the true odds behind the PASS LINE bet. Whether they allow players to bet 2X or more is the question.

 

I've seen 2X on cruise ships, such as the Carnival Liberty recently. If they didn't allow at least 1X odds bets, no one in their right mind would play.

 

The house always has the edge. With 1X pass line odds the house advantage is 1.41%, with 2X odds it is 0.85%.

[cruisegirl1]

Regarding the minimum craps bet – I’ve NEVER seen anything above $5 at least on an RCCL ship. There are higher minimums for poker and black jack.

M

[wolfganghowell]

Tell your friend the tables are single odds. There is usually one night where they have double odds only. It is NOt like Vegas on the craps table.

[Krazy4Kruisin']

It sounds like the answer is no, they don't play odds. The odds would be different for every bet that you make in craps, and there are multitudes. I frankly don't remember, but it sounds like the answer here is 'no'. But if the house does play odds, it actually puts a handful of craps bets in YOUR favor, not the house. (little known secret - they just bet on the fact that most people are intimidated by craps).

 

I will be sailing in 2 weeks - I can let you know then.

 

But I don't know that it should be a cruise deal breaker.

 

I seem to recall ship paying double odds in craps. Of course the odds are different from every bet, but the dealers know how to pay off on each multiple. If they couldn't figure payouts, they would be waitressing instead of dealing.

 

I've never seen the fact that people may be intimidated keep them from the tables. There are beginners at each game played in the casino. The good thing about beginners in craps is it won't affect the rest of the table, as it will in blackjack. The strategy in craps is purely personal, no "cheat card" to tell you what you should and shouldn't do. :rolleyes:

[cruiseco]

 

I've never seen the fact that people may be intimidated keep them from the tables. There are beginners at each game played in the casino. The good thing about beginners in craps is it won't affect the rest of the table' date=' as it will in blackjack. [/quote']

 

Actually, many craps players prefer having beginners at the table. It's an old superstition that a "craps virgin" has extra-good luck the first time they roll the dice.

[hawkfish]

I think the question is "pay" odds rather than "play" odds.

 

You are right - that's what I get for posting so late at night. :)

[Little Elm]

So you can place an odds bet on the Pass Line and the Come line? Just trying to figure out how these tables will differ in the odds as opposed to the Vegas tables.

[cruiseco]

So you can place an odds bet on the Pass Line and the Come line? Just trying to figure out how these tables will differ in the odds as opposed to the Vegas tables.

 

Sure you can. Depending on how the table is playing you'll be limited to making odds bets equal to either 1X or 2X the amount you've placed on the pass line bet or the come bet.

 

The odds themselves will be exactly what you'll find in Vegas. A winning odds bet on a 4 or 10 will pay 2 to 1. A winning odds bet on a 5 or 9 will pay 3 to 2. A winning odds bet on a 6 or 8 will pay 6 to 5. Exactly the same as any other craps game in any other casino.

[Krazy4Kruisin']

So you can place an odds bet on the Pass Line and the Come line? Just trying to figure out how these tables will differ in the odds as opposed to the Vegas tables.

 

Betting the pass line and betting the come are two totally separate bets. You can bet one without the other, or you can have bets on both. All it means when you place a come bet is that becomes like your own personal point. (and anyone else who bet the come on that roll) You can back it up with the same odds as if it were a pass line bet.

[cruzincurt]

A beginner at blackjack has no effect on the outcome of the game. Maybe in that one hand it appears so, but that "mis-play" may result in you having a blackjack in the next hand.

 

Maybe that beginner who split tens caused everyone to win?

[vator90]

A beginner at blackjack has no effect on the outcome of the game. Maybe in that one hand it appears so, but that "mis-play" may result in you having a blackjack in the next hand.

 

I completely and totally disagree with this piece of misinformation and will not play with those who do. BTW, my comps from the casino on the last cruise more than covered half my sea pass card.

[Krazy4Kruisin']

A beginner at blackjack has no effect on the outcome of the game. Maybe in that one hand it appears so, but that "mis-play" may result in you having a blackjack in the next hand.

 

I completely and totally disagree with this piece of misinformation and will not play with those who do. BTW, my comps from the casino on the last cruise more than covered half my sea pass card.

 

When we play, we try to play at minimum $25 table. It does stop some of the stupid play, but believe, me, there are many people that still throw away big bucks because they have no idea what they are doing. I play a progressing betting system, so if I have gotten my bet up to say $100 or more on that hand, and I see someone splittling 10's with a 4 showing by the dealer, believe me, I will be more than a little pissed. As far as misplay resulting in blackjack on the next hand, most casinos on the ships use continuous shuffle machines, so it will have absolutely no outcome on the next hand.

 

What did you get comped besides drinks? On our last cruise, we did get all our drinks comped while playing, and on the last night, we got a "goody bag" which was a beach bag, a hat, a t-shirt, a deck of cards, some pens, and some other little stuff, which I can't remember.

 

We are not cruising again till next May and the couple we are going with do not gamble at all, so I am guessing we won't do too much either. We don't want to leave them every night by themselves, especially since this is their 1st cruise.

[vator90]

On a side note, if you meet certain criteria you can qualify for comps from the casino. If you bet a minimum of $50.00 per hand of Blackjack, $50.00 minimum of pass/ don't pass on craps or play the $5.00 slot machines. C&A can direct you to the right people to set up a line of credit before the cruise. Also, if you are betting at these levels, let the floor people know so they can rate your play to make sure you get treated right. Over our last 2 cruises I can attest that they do treat you right. If you play these minimums, one imediate "perk" is your drinks are comped as long as your playing. They also like to see a minimum of 2 hours a day. That is not to say 2 hours straight, just 2 hours a day. The comps are anything from a discount on your current seapass account to discounted cruises in the future. So, if I play at these stakes and loose every hand, thats $42,000 over the course of a 7 day cruise. So, if you don't have a solid grasp of the game, this is a very expensive hobby. Thats a little more than I feel comfortable risking with someone who wants to split face cards, or has a feeling about the next card.

[Krazy4Kruisin']

So, if I play at these stakes and loose every hand, thats $42,000 over the course of a 7 day cruise. So, if you don't have a solid grasp of the game, this is a very expensive hobby. Thats a little more than I feel comfortable risking with someone who wants to split face cards, or has a feeling about the next card.

 

On our last cruise, we saw someone who played alot at our table lose over $25,000 on a 7 day cruise. This guy was never consistent. Sometimes, he would play 1 hand, sometimes he would play 2 hands. And he sould sit out a couple hands here and there. Decide how you want to play and stick to it. Playing "catch-up" rarely works, you need to know when to back off and go do something else. Also don't like those "hit and run" players, where someone sits in for 1 hand only, and then leaves.