How are the SLOTS on TRIUMPH?

[TrapperJeff]

We are on the Triumph on the 27th.Was hope to get some HOT tips on the Casino!!!!let hope they are hot!!!

[cuyahoga11]

Slots on cruise ships are like slots everywhere. Sometimes you win , sometimes you dont

[TCF]

First, we aren't big gamblers...so you have toi consider that. Buit last May we went to Panama on a Princess ship. During the Roll Call run up to cruise day there was some discussion among the folks about the casino and gambling and there was fellow who lived and worked in Vegas who took the time to explain in detail how the slots work on the cruise ships.

In Las Vegas the slots are big draw for the casinos and they make ALOT of money from them...but they also have to be very competitive in the times and amounts that they pay out because a customer who is not happy with the way the slots one casino as paying simply packs up goes a cross the street!

On the cruise ship casinos there is no "across the street", to go to, so they don't have to make the slots play nice with you...and they don't. This fellow said the best night to play the slots is the first night of the cruise...they leave them "loose" to attract passengers back to the casino. After the first night they tighten them down and that is where they stay to the end of the cruise.

The only thing I know is that I did way better in Vegas than I have any on cruise ship slot!

You are probably better off with the card games...at least that is my experience.

Were it otherwise the crusie ships would be filled with pro gambers instead of us!!

[smgardner]

We are on the Triumph on the 27th.Was hope to get some HOT tips on the Casino!!!!let hope they are hot!!!

 

 

Slots are programmed on a random number generator basis. Slot machines don't "get hot" or "get cold". I hear more superstitions and myths about slot machines...it is kind of goofy. People say "that machine is really hot"...that machine is no hotter than any other. It does not know that it just paid out...Do a Google search on Slots and read about the programming. It is all random.

[smgardner]

TCF Said

 

On the cruise ship casinos there is no "across the street", to go to, so they don't have to make the slots play nice with you...and they don't.

Absolutely 100% correct

This fellow said the best night to play the slots is the first night of the cruise...they leave them "loose" to attract passengers back to the casino. After the first night they tighten them down and that is where they stay to the end of the cruise.

That "fellow" you mentioned is nuts. Nobody walks around adjusting slots after the first night. I always hear that crap and it is just that...crap.

 

The only thing I know is that I did way better in Vegas than I have any on cruise ship slot!

 

You are probably better off with the card games...at least that is my experience.

100% correct.

 

Were it otherwise the crusie ships would be filled with pro gambers instead of us

Good luck either way.

[VolzCruiser]

Slots are programmed on a random number generator basis. Slot machines don't "get hot" or "get cold". I hear more superstitions and myths about slot machines...it is kind of goofy. People say "that machine is really hot"...that machine is no hotter than any other. It does not know that it just paid out...Do a Google search on Slots and read about the programming. It is all random.

 

You are correct sir. Having the Casinos as a customer for over 7 years now I have learned a few things from them. One of those is that there isn't some magic button that they can push to make them the slots more loose or tighter. Also is some states the percent range of payout a slot machine has is determined by the Gaming Commission. On cruise ships that is percent is determined by the laws of the country that the ship is registered. Most of the times those percents are less than what is Vegas.

[victory2020]

I have never won on a cruise ship slots - not even small amounts.

[mrlddst]

Bingo seems to be the big winner to me. I know its all chance but I went on my last cruise with a group of 26. Out of the 16 that played, 7 got bingo, two of those got the nightly jackpot, two hit twice on different nights. I didn't play. I chose to try my luck on slots, in all I ended up coming off the boat with more money than I got on with.

[kchobbs]

I am wondering if anyone out there can tell me what the payout percentage for the slots are on a cruise ship?. From what I understand these machines are set at the factory and no someone does not adjust the percentage payout majically when they see fit.

 

But here is the catch......the casinos throughout North America are highly regulated by laws of the province or state they reside in. Seeing how the casinos on a cruise ship are not open until they reach international waters, who ensures that these casinos abide by any laws? Who is to say that the slots on the machines are ordered from the factory with low pay out rates set?

[DqALEX]

I do much better at a card table than I do on slots. With $100 I have played on a card table for up to 4 hours, on slots maybe up to 1/2 hour. The name one arm bandit is right on the money

[derf5585]

Rumor has it that the slots are looser on the first night of the cruise.

[i'llbesea-ingyou]

Just got home from a wonderful cruise on the Triumph. The slots are unpredictable anywhere, it's just hit or miss. In my personal experience last week, I won a nice amount of money compared to what I put in and DH donated most of his but won it back by the end. We were playing the pinball, run for your money and wheel of fortune $00.25 slots at the back of the room against the wall. saw many people winning on these machines all week as well. someone next to us hit a biggie and they had to have a crew come over and fill out paperwork and such.:D Good luck!

[crusinpsychRN]

Playing max amount can increase your odds but also spends your money faster. 100% random--each spin just as likely to win or lose. They are there because they make money for the casino. Bottom line. Think Pavlov!

[dan40]

LOOSE SLOTS? R U kidding? U can't even get an even money return from the ATM! :D

 

Dan

[Bruce&Pam]

We happen to have a slot machine in our living room so I know a little bit about how they work. I got it for Pam for her 50th birthday present. It's an IGT Double Diamond Deluxe (moving diamond machine, for your newbies). The machines are controlled by an eprom chip that's programmed at the factory. To change the payout of a machine you have to open up each machine, remove the "loose" chip and insert a "tight" chip. It would take all night to change the chips twice each week on all the machines on a cruise ship. You would notice them shutting the casino down to do that, so I don't believe they do.

 

Our machine has a 95% payout chip in it, which is similar to a 1$ machine on the Vegas strip. It's just about as good as it gets. I also bought an 85% (tighter) chip, which is typical for a quarter slot on the strip because I thought Pam might want her machine to be more realistic. She hasn't allowed me to put the tighter chip in, yet. She probably never will.

 

Her Dad hit the jackpot on the day I gave it to her. It's been a year, now, and we've never had anyone hit it again. And that's with a 95% payout chip. Kinda gives you an idea of how rare a slot jackpot is.

 

Hope this helps.

 

---Bruce

[derf5585]

We happen to have a slot machine in our living room so I know a little bit about how they work. I got it for Pam for her 50th birthday present. It's an IGT Double Diamond Deluxe (moving diamond machine, for your newbies). The machines are controlled by an eprom chip that's programmed at the factory. To change the payout of a machine you have to open up each machine, remove the "loose" chip and insert a "tight" chip. It would take all night to change the chips twice each week on all the machines on a cruise ship. You would notice them shutting the casino down to do that, so I don't believe they do.

 

If a machine has a EEPROM and is networked from the home office payout could be changed.

 

An EEPROM (also called an E2PROM) or Electrically Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory,

from

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEPROM

[kchobbs]

We happen to have a slot machine in our living room so I know a little bit about how they work. I got it for Pam for her 50th birthday present. It's an IGT Double Diamond Deluxe (moving diamond machine, for your newbies). The machines are controlled by an eprom chip that's programmed at the factory. To change the payout of a machine you have to open up each machine, remove the "loose" chip and insert a "tight" chip. It would take all night to change the chips twice each week on all the machines on a cruise ship. You would notice them shutting the casino down to do that, so I don't believe they do.

 

Our machine has a 95% payout chip in it, which is similar to a 1$ machine on the Vegas strip. It's just about as good as it gets. I also bought an 85% (tighter) chip, which is typical for a quarter slot on the strip because I thought Pam might want her machine to be more realistic. She hasn't allowed me to put the tighter chip in, yet. She probably never will.

 

Her Dad hit the jackpot on the day I gave it to her. It's been a year, now, and we've never had anyone hit it again. And that's with a 95% payout chip. Kinda gives you an idea of how rare a slot jackpot is.

 

Hope this helps.

 

---Bruce

 

So based on this yes there are different chips to make the machine looser or tighter. My question is what % payout chips are placed on the machines on cruise ships? What is stopping a cruise line from placing a chip that say pays 65%? In international waters who is out there to protect us the consumer from getting ripped off?

I have no problem playing slots machines, but as a consumer I would like to know what my odds are in advance before deciding to play slots or play something like blackjack where I know if I play basic strategy, I can reduce the house favor down to about 2 to 2 1/2 percent for a payout of 97 1/2 to 98%.

[Bruce&Pam]

So based on this yes there are different chips to make the machine looser or tighter. My question is what % payout chips are placed on the machines on cruise ships? What is stopping a cruise line from placing a chip that say pays 65%? In international waters who is out there to protect us the consumer from getting ripped off?

I have no problem playing slots machines, but as a consumer I would like to know what my odds are in advance before deciding to play slots or play something like blackjack where I know if I play basic strategy, I can reduce the house favor down to about 2 to 2 1/2 percent for a payout of 97 1/2 to 98%.

You are exactly right. That's why people should play the slots on a cruise ship for ENTERTAINMENT! I suspect most of the chips on cruise ship slots are between 87% and 75%. That would be a chip used for nickel machines in Vegas.

 

For the OP: Pam found her exact machine on the Triumph. She hit the jackpot on it. It was a two coin, quarter, Double Diamond Deluxe machine. She won 800 quarters because she only plays one coin at a time.

 

That particular machine is a very low volatility machine. It tends to pay small amounts fairly regularly and the jackpot is fairly small. That means you can generally play for a longer amount of time with the same money. A twenty should last you quite a while on that machine. That's why Pam likes that one. She looks for it at every casino we happen to visit.

 

---Bruce

[woodey]

LOOSE SLOTS? R U kidding? U can't even get an even money return from the ATM! :D

 

Dan

Ya but the ATM still hold the best odds for the player:eek:

[VolzCruiser]

If a machine has a EEPROM and is networked from the home office payout could be changed.

 

An EEPROM (also called an E2PROM) or Electrically Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory,

from

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEPROM

 

The eeprom chips could be reprogrammed if they were directly tied to the network but with slot machines they aren't.

[derf5585]

The eeprom chips could be reprogrammed if they were directly tied to the network but with slot machines they aren't.

 

When a ship is in port all the slot machines are turned off. And at sea turned on again. Are you saying they go around to each machine to change the status or do they turn them on through the casino network?