Kicked Off Ship

[Shar27]

How do you know people making negative comments about the behavior on ship do not have children.

 

Perhaps I am referring specifically to those without children. When someone signs on as "KIDLESS", it gives one a hint.:rolleyes:

 

Quite a few posters have also mentioned that they do not have children of the two legged variety.....another hint. While others, you can only hope that they don't have children.

[jevotm]

Little of topic.................but how is the weather up there in B-more. Heading up next week to visit my son. Not sure this Florida girl is going to be able to take it..............but looking forward to those crab cakes!!! :D

 

It is about 34 today and we got about 5 inches of snow yesterday. My DD 7 was on this cruise and my 2 God daughters 3 and 7. They had a great time and were very well behaved. They were supervised by us or the staff @ A. O. the entire time. As I have said before the only time I witnessed kids getting loud or ornery was in the stairwells late at night. Since I do not linger in the stairwells this did not bother me. Yes there was a lot of kids on this cruise but when you go on a mass market line that caters to families during the holidays one knows going in that there will be a bunch of kids. I take mine sometimes and sometimes we dont, next cruise will be with Celebrity and it will probably be sans children.

[dolphinwyo]

I was on this cruise and I thought Capt. Rob and his staff were great. The kids in our group had a great time in A. O. and they really enjoyed the staff. One adult member of our travelling group,of 30, was debarked in San Juan. He is an alocholic who was harassing other passengers, and stealing their drinks. He was brought back to his cabin twice by security the first night and then again the second night. After these incidents the staff and his family decided to to land him in San Juan where he was escorted off of the ship by security. I heard of the family being landed because of the breakfast menus, and of the young man tossing shuffelboard equipment off of the ship and two other families were debarked because their teen daughters were fighting in the disco. I know these incidents make it seem as the ship was overrun with kids but the only time I saw kids being unruly was late at night when they would gather in groups of 5-10 in the stairwells and they were loud and wouldn't move. Great cruise and good ship with some "minor" disturbances that were handeled by the Captain and crew.

 

 

Thank you for bringing it back to the OP's original question. Obviously there were adults and teens that were not acting appropriately and the Captain dealt with the matter. I am glad to you still had a great cruise - hate to see anyone have a vacation ruined, especially by someone else acting inappropriately. Isn't that the bottom line - we all hope that we can go on our vacations, enjoy ourselves, hope that our kids and other people's children act appropriately and discover the great joy in traveling, and hope that we don't encounter obnoxious people - young or old - that put a damper on our fun? The parenting argument in all of its complexities can go on and on and on....I am sure the OP had no idea where this would lead.

[kidless]

Perhaps I am referring specifically to those without children. When someone signs on as "KIDLESS", it gives one a hint.:rolleyes:

 

Quite a few posters have also mentioned that they do not have children of the two legged variety.....another hint. While others, you can only hope that they don't have children.

 

Well since kidless is my screen name for you to assume I do not have children is nuts. So should we assume Cruisingator2 is an alligator or Makingold works in a gold mine. Give me a break. Not that it is anyones business but I picked the screen name because I am not always creative when it comes to things like that and after trying a few I liked that turned up already in use I decided on Kidless because at the time my DH and I were taking our first vacation in many years with out the children. Which was a treat for us and we were excited about it.

[Shar27]

Well since kidless is my screen name for you to assume I do not have children is nuts. So should we assume Cruisingator2 is an alligator or Makingold works in a gold mine. Give me a break. Not that it is anyones business but I picked the screen name because I am not always creative when it comes to things like that and after trying a few I liked that turned up already in use I decided on Kidless because at the time my DH and I were taking our first vacation in many years with out the children. Which was a treat for us and we were excited about it.

 

You are right, my apologies. I should not assume that screen names are obvious indications into people's lives.

 

From now on I will stick to what they say in their posts.:)

[MakinGold]

Well since kidless is my screen name for you to assume I do not have children is nuts. So should we assume Cruisingator2 is an alligator or Makingold works in a gold mine.

 

I don't work in a gold mine. I'm actually an alchemist. But Cruisingator2 is an alligator, and Gonzo70 is a Muppet.

[Thing2]

I don't work in a gold mine. I'm actually an alchemist. But Cruisingator2 is an alligator, and Gonzo70 is a Muppet.

 

And I am looking for my brother Thing1 but he ran off with the dam cat!!! :D

[TheWog]

I don't work in a gold mine. I'm actually an alchemist. But Cruisingator2 is an alligator, and Gonzo70 is a Muppet.

 

am I a pollywog? :D

[Onessa]

For all the parents on here saying my kids are well behaved...........how do they know unless they are with them all the time. I have seen to many running around without their parents. Usually only see them with parents at dinner or shore.

 

I agree that I see kids running about without their parents, but I would also not simply jump to the conclusion that just because four or five kids are at a table in Windjammer, or in the pool, or playing pingpong that there is no parent there simply because none are joined to the kids at the hip.

 

One formal night "the girls" (my 12YO DD and her five other 12YO friends) dressed up and went to the Windjammer together rather than joining their parent's in the DR -- The girls were on their own table, but one or more parent was a "respectiful" distance away the whole time. Similarly when four nasty adults decided to try to "kick them out" of their seats at one of the shows, the mom who was sitting one row back from them, helped them explain (respectfully -- even though the adults in question were being quite rude!) that they not only were in a row where they could sit HAD they been unaccompanied, but also that they were NOT unaccompanied.

 

There were multiple parents and at least one of us was nearby whenever the girls were doing anything outside of the teen club activities. We did let them go from one cabin to another as a group, but there was a parent at either end in those cases. Sometimes they would be in one of our cabins as a group without an adult in the cabin or the library for a predefined period of time, but 1) they knew they could not leave without an adult with them and 2) an adult might check in at just about any time.

 

So, yes, I did know how my tween behaved the entire time she was on vacation.

 

BTW - am I "one ssa" or "on essa" (in which case what is a "essa")?

[RetireeWannabee]

Don't generalize so much. My 14 year old son is: in honors classes since 4th grade, a runner, very fit (works out with me at the gym), taking ballroom dancing, a French student, has always been a classy dresser, and is a very popular kid in school. He loves cruising/traveling and loves formal dining as well as night runs on the cruise deck. He received numerous compliments on both his appearance and behavior, on both cruises, and I know that only served to reinforce what I have taught him. (Of course now he wants a tux!) We do not own a playstation or xbox, in fact we don't even have cable tv, and don't want it. He does play games on the computer (loves Runescape) but only when time permits. I don't take him out of school for vacationing, so we are restricted to summer cruising. This year I did not have time for a cruise so we flew to St. Thomas for a few days, and his favorite part was snorkeling the underwater park in Trunk Bay. While we do spend some time on the beaches, rarely are we just "sitting".

 

It has been a very easy road for me, this parenting thing. But I don't tolerate disrepect, either from my son or his friends, and when I say no, I stick to it. So please, "today's kids" is not really a fair term to use in that context.:o

 

My apology is some pages back, another for you. "Many kids that I observe" may be a better phrase. Sorry if you took offense.

 

My comment had only to do with gadgets and nature. Do not attribute comments on disrespect or teen character to me as I did not originate anything of the sort.

[RetireeWannabee]

Well, ya caught me: I WANT TO BE RETIRED!

[juniorsmom]

I might be Juniorsmom, but Junior is my furry four legged child:D

[Thing2]

I agree that I see kids running about without their parents, but I would also not simply jump to the conclusion that just because four or five kids are at a table in Windjammer, or in the pool, or playing pingpong that there is no parent there simply because none are joined to the kids at the hip.

 

One formal night "the girls" (my 12YO DD and her five other 12YO friends) dressed up and went to the Windjammer together rather than joining their parent's in the DR -- The girls were on their own table, but one or more parent was a "respectiful" distance away the whole time. Similarly when four nasty adults decided to try to "kick them out" of their seats at one of the shows, the mom who was sitting one row back from them, helped them explain (respectfully -- even though the adults in question were being quite rude!) that they not only were in a row where they could sit HAD they been unaccompanied, but also that they were NOT unaccompanied.

 

There were multiple parents and at least one of us was nearby whenever the girls were doing anything outside of the teen club activities. We did let them go from one cabin to another as a group, but there was a parent at either end in those cases. Sometimes they would be in one of our cabins as a group without an adult in the cabin or the library for a predefined period of time, but 1) they knew they could not leave without an adult with them and 2) an adult might check in at just about any time.

 

So, yes, I did know how my tween behaved the entire time she was on vacation.

 

BTW - am I "one ssa" or "on essa" (in which case what is a "essa")?

 

You sound like a great parent but I have seen to few of you out there. I think if you take a look around especially on a cruise you will see many young teens running around unsupervised. And the point of this thread with some getting kick off ship proves that point.

 

We have met many nice kids on cruises teens and young ones a like. One cruise at the end of the cruise we present the young boy and girl at the table next to us each a gift we purchased just for them in Cozumel because they were so wonderfully behaved we thought they deserved recognition for it.

 

And honestly most of the stuff we have seen by the teens , pushing into elevators, taking the do not disturb signs, running and yelling in the corridors and so forth do not really bother us all that much. And because my DH and I raised 4 of our own if we see kids doing this we dont' have a problem telling them to knock it off and they always have at least till we got out of sight. But I think parents who don't supervise these children should not only take into consideration the disruption they cause but that the ship is a moving city and could be dangerous for them to be running around unsupervised.

 

I think most people posting negatives on this board about kids are only referring to the handful of bad kids because unfortunately the bad ones are who stick in their heads. But it seems if they bring it up what they see or experience then people get defensive about their own children. Well I have taken kids on a cruise and I don't' take offense when people talk about bad behaved kids cause I know they weren't mine cause like you my children as teens never ran around ship unsupervised.

[sandy38]

um, I'm not really 38's.

[MakinGold]

um, I'm not really 38's.

 

I thought that meant that you were born in '38 . . .

 

;)

[sandy38]

I thought that meant that you were born in '38 . . .

 

;)

ok smarty pants...... no, the 38 is really 38 years old. Sometimes I feel like I was born in 38. I truly hope I don't look the part.

[Thing2]

um, I'm not really 38's.

 

I thought it was her hair color................:mad:

[Saintsfan007]

Yes, I am a Saints Fan, but sometimes I have to be secretive about it (007), because they can stink up the joint!

[sandy38]

I better clear this up quick. I am not 38 years old. It was because there were 37 sandy's ahead of me. So I got stuck with 38. I'm not going to go into the hair color chart. :)

[Oville]

I don't work in a gold mine. I'm actually an alchemist. But Cruisingator2 is an alligator, and Gonzo70 is a Muppet.

 

Ha Ha, and I'm a town.

[Thing2]

Yes, I am a Saints Fan, but sometimes I have to be secretive about it (007), because they can stink up the joint!

 

That would be Saint Jude.....patron saint of lost causes..........only joking!!! :D

[Saintsfan007]

That would be Saint Jude.....patron saint of lost causes..........only joking!!! :D

 

But you are so right!

[kidless]

oh man you guys are funny!! I love it...............:D :D

[Arizona Cruz Chic]

I admit it...we do live in AZ!

 

 

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[kidless]

I admit it...we do live in AZ!

 

 

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Kind of hard to cruise there though.....................