Another missing passenger!!!

[wingnutphl]

I'd think you'd have to climb. I've only been on RCI ships ... we'll be sharing 2 port days with Victory in June, I'll have to look to see if their railings seem lower or something. They do seem to have more of these man overboard incidents.

 

All cruise ship railings are generally the same height. I don't think they are any lower than normal. Unless you are 7 foot tall. My first thought when I started to read the article was that he spent his day at CnC. It's sad that some people can't have fun without getting totally trashed.

 

I feel for his family.

[Dave85]

... we'll be sharing 2 port days with Victory in June, I'll have to look to see if their railings seem lower or something. They do seem to have more of these man overboard incidents.

 

Been on the Victory twice, and her rails are no lower than that of any other modern cruise ship. It's as inexplicable that someone could "fall" (without climbing, being pushed, etc.) off the Victory as it is any other ship.

[zuzu320]

This happens about once a year or so on Carnival. It is the party ship and most of the time someone is so drunk they do something stupid and fall over...

 

It's not just Carnival.

 

:) True. It happens on all ships. Still, if you look at the number of people that cruise all the time the actual number of missing persons is still less than in the general population.

[2cruisers55]

What really bothers me is the damage to the reputation of the cruise line when an accident like this happens. I personally have had people make remarks about it. It's the "anyone who would go on a ship is asking for trouble" statements! My husband and I sent our son and daugter-in-law on a cruise for their honeymoon against the advice" of "nay sayers" who look at cruising as just a reason to drink too much and try crazy things. And in defense of the cruise line, if the ships are well maintained, I do not see how anyone can just fall overboard unless you put yourself in a position to "fall". And, I agree, it can happen on any cruiseline! They are unfornuate accidents. My heart goes out to any family who has to bear the pain of a loss as this.

[cusyl]

It said they had not seen him in an extended period of time. I wonder if he clocked out and back in at Cozumel and then disappeared?

[senrab]

I think this is interesting info (it was at the end of the link Phoenix Cruiser posted)

 

Notes: While falling from a cruise ship is a rare occurrence, a quick review of the Cruise News archives reveals that:

 

Males are much more likely to go overboard than females

 

Not surprising. Males tend to be bigger risk-takers

 

Carnival passengers (16 incidents) are more likely to go overboard than passengers from other cruise lines...especially passengers on the Carnival Conquest

 

Lower cost=more college age passengers. College age passengers (generally)=more alcohol consumption. No big surprise here. Also, they've marketed themselves as the "party ship." Could someone weigh in on how many passengers they board, relative to other lines (RCCL, HAL, NCL, etc.)?

 

The average age of a passenger who goes overboard is 40 years

 

That's older than I'd expect. I'd go no higher than 30 if I had to guess.

 

You are most likely to fall overboard on the last night of your cruise

 

The big going away party, the raucus atmosphere before the depression of the end of the trip. Makes sense.

 

For some reason, people from California and Florida go overboard more than others

 

I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I'm willing to guess that might be because they are bigger states (in terms of population) and cruise hubs, too. I'll bet that Texas and New York are also in the top 5. Wyoming, Ohio, and South Dakota probably aren't.

 

Falling overboard does not necessarily mean you will die (8 people have been rescued, one after 18 hours in the water)

 

Most people who fall overboard are either drunk or doing silly things (climbing on the railing or between cabin balconies)

 

Give the statistician a raise here!

 

What really bothers me is the damage to the reputation of the cruise line when an accident like this happens. I personally have had people make remarks about it. It's the "anyone who would go on a ship is asking for trouble" statements! My husband and I sent our son and daugter-in-law on a cruise for their honeymoon against the advice" of "nay sayers" who look at cruising as just a reason to drink too much and try crazy things. And in defense of the cruise line, if the ships are well maintained, I do not see how anyone can just fall overboard unless you put yourself in a position to "fall". And, I agree, it can happen on any cruiseline! They are unfornuate accidents. My heart goes out to any family who has to bear the pain of a loss as this.

 

It is, sort of. [Grabs fire extinguisher.] I drink too much on a cruise. I try crazy things (zip lines, rock climbing, ice skating, SCUBA). I just don't do them at the same time...[seeing that the CCers today are friendly, and not flaming, puts down the fire extinguisher.]

[BadBoysDriveAudi]

how does that happen.

you would have to really go high up to go over the railing.

 

I've personally sailed the Victory, and I know those railings are high. You literally would have to climb up a couple steps in order to get yourself over. Even someone shoving you isn't likely to cause you to flip over.

 

I'd be interested in knowing if they tried to determine if they left him in port. My trip left Cozumel at midnight (well, a few minutes late). That's a much more plausible explanation -- especially considering how many people had been drinking and returning to the boat during my trip.

[BadBoysDriveAudi]

Been on the Victory twice, and her rails are no lower than that of any other modern cruise ship. It's as inexplicable that someone could "fall" (without climbing, being pushed, etc.) off the Victory as it is any other ship.

 

You really think you could be pushed off? I mean a push in the classic sense of the word; not pushed, shoved, lifted and helped over the railing.

 

Most people tend to fall downward when pushed, not up and over something.

[bambidrummer]

Can only happen on Carnival.

June 18, 2007

A Royal Caribbean International cruise ship resumed its voyage to Puerto Rico on Tuesday as Coast Guard crews searched for a passenger reported missing a day earlier

[emdia43]

Can only happen on Carnival.

 

 

Umm- ever heard of George Smith- he fell/ was pushed off the Brilliance of the Seas?

 

Or Elizabeth Galena who fell/jumped off the Voyager of the Seas?

 

Want me to go on?

[TVMet]

This happens about once a year or so on Carnival. It is the party ship and most of the time someone is so drunk they do something stupid and fall over. A couple of years ago two people about 25 were so drunk they decided to climb up on the rail on the deck above the pool deck and try and walk it like a tight rope thing, of course either the ship moved or the wind blew anyway either both or just the one fell over board. We saw a young girl passed out on a stack of deck chairs that were leaning toward the rail. (This was our LAST Carnival cruise). They were cleaning the deck and she climbed up there. My husband alerted the security and they climbed up there and took her down.

 

 

I really don't understand how you can call Carnival a "party ship"....I've been on several of their cruises as well at NCL, RCL, and Disney. I just got off a Carnival cruise two weeks ago. I didn't notice anyone drunk...nothing different from any cruise I've been on. The nightclubs were fairly inactive, seemed a bunch of folks just went to their cabins after the evening dinner/show. Casino was busy and the deck partly one night was fun. This was a 7 day cruise though, with four ports, so it wasn't like a 3-4 day drinking cruise.

[Cruise Cat]

Please don't think me cruel or judgemental, but this stuff just happens..... It's like a Darwin thing. People also fall off of bridges or buildings, cross train tracks in front of a train, etc. They also wander out onto highways when they shouldn't. The common element is that they get killed doing something they shouldn't be doing; usually for some silly, stupid reason. It is not limited to people either. Animals do strange and stupid things also to get themselves killed. I just look at the whole thing of people falling off of cruise ships as a statistical fact. You could put 10 foot high fences topped with razor wire around the ship and you would still have some amount of people going overboard.

[Cruising89143]

Can only happen on Carnival.

 

Folks, this person is a troll. Read "it's" posting history. Last night, most of his/her/it's cabin categories were Carnival cabins listed under RCI ships. Doesn't not even know one cruise line from the other. It has now changed them to RCI and I hate to tell them but one is still wrong. One ship does not have a certain category that "it" has listed. I will let them figure out which ship is wrong.:rolleyes:

[Cruising89143]

It said they had not seen him in an extended period of time. I wonder if he clocked out and back in at Cozumel and then disappeared?

 

The ship should have known one way or the other if he was on board from the swipe of his card.

[cruiserbryce]

foolsihness:(

[PH8]

[quote name='nlcentralchmps03']What a stupid statement. :rolleyes:[/quote]
Like all the other ones he/she makes...:rolleyes: