FitzLA Posted September 29, 2008 #26 Share Posted September 29, 2008 While we're at it, can I just add that it is PORTOFINO! It is not Portofinos or Portofino's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillB48 Posted September 30, 2008 #27 Share Posted September 30, 2008 derf5585 Help, Help! Emergency apostrophe aid is needed in Cozumel!!! Spellcheck can came later!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakers1041 Posted September 30, 2008 #28 Share Posted September 30, 2008 They mean the largest cruise ship ever built at that dock.Its the biggest ship they have built at the shipyard. We all know this isnt the biggest ship in the world.:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uksimonusa Posted September 30, 2008 #29 Share Posted September 30, 2008 It's "its"! Didn't you just use the word knot for not on the thread @ deaths on a cruise ship?:cool: I just seen that thread, or did I just see that thread, anyway I just saw the incorrect use of the word "knot" and smiled to myself, as I normally do when seeing something like this. It's ironic that the English 101 posting came from the same poster;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted September 30, 2008 #30 Share Posted September 30, 2008 I just seen that thread, or did I just see that thread, anyway I just saw the incorrect use of the word "knot" and smiled to myself, as I normally do when seeing something like this. It's ironic that the English 101 posting came from the same poster;) A Little Poem Regarding Computer Spell Checkers... Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marques four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a key and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am wrong oar write It shows me strait a weigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee fore two long And eye can put the error rite Its rare lea ever wrong. Eye have run this poem threw it I am shore your pleased two no Its letter perfect awl the weigh My chequer tolled me sew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkwolfe Posted September 30, 2008 #31 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Good one Derf.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiserbryce Posted September 30, 2008 #32 Share Posted September 30, 2008 While it isnt the largest by any means I am excited to see the pictures since I will be on Equinox in a little over a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancher Dave Posted September 30, 2008 #33 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Funny how press and others like to use "biggest" "Best" etc... and forget to check their facts. I caught one airline trying to advertise one of their flights as longest...it was in fact either second or third longest at that time, just longest from that airport in question. Generally the lack of acuracy in the press really bothers me since it seems they are more interested in getting news out than getting accurate news out. Oh well!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmatt Posted September 30, 2008 #34 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Much like english class in school, I found myself falling asleep at the it's vs. its discussion. But thanks for the refresher.:D :D The Solstice does look like a beautiful ship. Largest or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzLA Posted September 30, 2008 #35 Share Posted September 30, 2008 They mean the largest cruise ship ever built at that dock.Its the biggest ship they have built at the shipyard. We all know this isnt the biggest ship in the world.:o Apparently you did not read the article? This is exactly what it said. And I quote... "Mind the gap! The world's biggest cruise ship squeezes out of dock and sets sail" and... "For this mighty vessel, the largest ever passenger ship, dwarfs all that stands next to it, making the thousands of spectators which came to see it's launch look little more than ants as they waved the graceful ship out of the port." No where does it say 'the largest built at that ship yard', or 'the largest built in Germany'. It says it is the largest in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uksimonusa Posted September 30, 2008 #36 Share Posted September 30, 2008 They mean the largest cruise ship ever built at that dock.Its the biggest ship they have built at the shipyard. We all know this isnt the biggest ship in the world.:o Apparently you did not read the article? This is exactly what it said. And I quote... "Mind the gap! The world's biggest cruise ship squeezes out of dock and sets sail" and... "For this mighty vessel, the largest ever passenger ship, dwarfs all that stands next to it, making the thousands of spectators which came to see it's launch look little more than ants as they waved the graceful ship out of the port." No where does it say 'the largest built at that ship yard', or 'the largest built in Germany'. It says it is the largest in the world. And that is exactly what Lakers1041 is saying, the Daily Mail incorrectly reports is as the largest ship in the world, It is not the largest ship in the world, but, probably the largest built at that ship yard, due to the fact that it had to "squeeze out of the dock". The largest built at that shipyard or in Germany is pure speculation, but the "largest passenger ship in the world" title is currently held jointly by 3 ships, Freedom of the Seas, Liberty of the Seas and Independence of the Seas". Celebrity Solstice doesn't come close. Just because a usually reliable news source says "It's the largest in the world" does not mean it is. Newspapers report wrong "Facts" repeatedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizanessie Posted September 30, 2008 #37 Share Posted September 30, 2008 The online article has now been changed :D and no longer says the world's biggest cruise ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfer1966 Posted September 30, 2008 #38 Share Posted September 30, 2008 It's "its"! Okay, look. I'm a grammar snob. If you want to be able to communicate with others, you need to wrap that communication up in an easily digested package. You need to pay considerable attention to the form and structure of what you're saying as well as the content. Careless use of language instills in the reader a lack of confidence in the writer. In the academic world, poor grammar is often a further impediment towards the understanding of already complex material. One particular error that never ceases to make me cringe is the misuse of the words "it's" and "its". The distinction between "it's" and "its" was first conveyed to me with great intensity in the eighth grade, by the venerable Donna George at West Island College in Montreal. For years thereafter I suppressed my anger at the apostrophical affront, playing the stoic as best I could. But as I grow older and more curmudgeonly, and as the grammatical fibre of our society erodes, my tolerance for this typographical trespass trickles away. Here, then, is my defiant outpost, my barricade against the teeming masses who would overrun the world with superfluous apostrophes (or, less often, withhold those apostrophes when they are so rightly required). Of course, I would rather build a classroom than a fortress, and so here follows a lesson in the correct usage of the words "it's" and "its". Be kind to your friend the apostrophe. It's "It's" is a contraction. It is short for "it is" (or occasionally for "it has"). It's not a way to ascribe a property to some "it". Yes, I know that this would make sense given that the general rule for forming a possessive is to tack on "'s": fool's errand, brewer's yeast, horse's ass. "It's" is an exception to this rule, and I honestly apologize on behalf of the infuriating English language. I didn't invent this stupid rule, but it's hardwired into my brain like gender of nouns to French speakers. Examples: It's a small world, after all. It's a small world, after all. It's a small world, after all. It's a small world, after all. You do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around, that's what it's all about. Well, it's been a long, been a long, been a long, been a long day. Its "Its" is a possessive pronoun. Its interpretation is something like "that which belongs to it", where "it" stands for some previously defined object. In the previous sentence, the object being referred to is the word "its", and the thing that belongs to it is its interpretation. Examples: He left it dead, and with its head he went galumphing back Love rears its ugly head. Using them correctly With practice, it's easy to tell these two devilish words apart. To help you keep them separate, here are some handy tips: * Try replacing your "it's" with "it is" in the sentence. If the sentence becomes obviously wrong, you probably meant to use "its". If it sounds okay, "it's" can stay. Example: "Nothing can take it's place" can't be right, because "Nothing can take it is place" is nonsense. You probably mean "Nothing can take its place". Example: "It's not easy being green". Well, "It is not easy" is right, so the original sentence is okay. * Try replacing your "its" with "his" in the sentence. If it comes out sounding right, "its" can stay. Example: "That's just its way of making friends" must be okay, because "That's just his way of making friends" is grammatical. In general, "its" as a possessive is like "his". You wouldn't write "hi's", would you? Well, maybe you would if you were talking about something belonging to Hiram... * Look at the word that follows "its" or "it's". A noun means that you want "its". An adjective probably indicates "it's". This isn't always true, but it's a half-decent rule of thumb. Example: "The cat licks its tongue into the corners of the evening". "Tongue" is a noun. I probably don't mean "it is tongue", so I'll stick with "its". Where to go from here Misuse of the apostrophe carries over into the confusion between the plural and possessive forms of nouns. This is in some sense less forgivable, since the rule is much more general. Plural nouns require an "s", and possessives require an "'s". Never ever write something like The twelve day's of Christmas That's just wrong, and shouldn't require much thought. If you make this deplorable error, Bob the Angry Flower will descend on you and mess you up. Admittedly, rules involving the apostrophe get somewhat fuzzy in places. I find it hard to pluralize a word like "printf" used as a noun, as in "This function contains twenty-two printfs", since that can lead to confusion. I would simply avoid the issue: "This function contains twenty-two occurrences of printf". Conclusion I'm glad I finally got that off my chest. Sorry to drag on for so long, but this really is important. If you want to be understood, you need to present your thoughts in a way that leaves the fewest barriers to comprehension. The error described here doesn't derail the reader, but it does present a speed bump, a momentary mental hiccup from which one must recover. A moment's thought while writing can make for a smooth ride later on. I'm not alone in my concern for the proper use of the apostrophe. If you're still looking for answers, I'm sure you can find any number of other sources of information. from http://www.cgl.uwaterloo.ca/~csk/its.html The It's vs. Its page If you're confused by these two little words, you've come to the right place. (Not that there aren't other right places.) It's is a contraction for it is or it has. Its is a possessive pronoun meaning, more or less, of it or belonging to it. And there is absolutely, positively, no such word as its'. A simple test If you can replace it[']s in your sentence with it is or it has, then your word is it's; otherwise, your word is its. Another test Its is the neuter version of his and her. Try plugging her into your sentence where you think its belongs. If the sentence still works grammatically (if not logically) then your word is indeed its. Examples It's been good to know you. Contraction: it has It's a bird! It's a plane! Contraction: it is The dodo bird is known for its inability to fly. Possessive pronoun: its inability = the dodo bird's inability from http://www.stormloader.com/garyes/its/#top "Cruise Critic..... Its a board for cruise talk, not english class..." :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzLA Posted September 30, 2008 #39 Share Posted September 30, 2008 The online article has now been changed :D and no longer says the world's biggest cruise ship. I wonder how many people emailed them regarding the glaring mistake? I know I emailed them yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddcan Posted September 30, 2008 #40 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Wow, the GEEK-Meter is pegged with this thread. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browneyes7 Posted October 3, 2008 #41 Share Posted October 3, 2008 It's "its"! Okay, look. I'm a grammar snob. If you want to be able to communicate with others, you need to wrap that communication up in an easily digested package. You need to pay considerable attention to the form and structure of what you're saying as well as the content. Careless use of language instills in the reader a lack of confidence in the writer. In the academic world, poor grammar is often a further impediment towards the understanding of already complex material. One particular error that never ceases to make me cringe is the misuse of the words "it's" and "its". The distinction between "it's" and "its" was first conveyed to me with great intensity in the eighth grade, by the venerable Donna George at West Island College in Montreal. For years thereafter I suppressed my anger at the apostrophical affront, playing the stoic as best I could. But as I grow older and more curmudgeonly, and as the grammatical fibre of our society erodes, my tolerance for this typographical trespass trickles away. Here, then, is my defiant outpost, my barricade against the teeming masses who would overrun the world with superfluous apostrophes (or, less often, withhold those apostrophes when they are so rightly required). Of course, I would rather build a classroom than a fortress, and so here follows a lesson in the correct usage of the words "it's" and "its". Be kind to your friend the apostrophe. It's "It's" is a contraction. It is short for "it is" (or occasionally for "it has"). It's not a way to ascribe a property to some "it". Yes, I know that this would make sense given that the general rule for forming a possessive is to tack on "'s": fool's errand, brewer's yeast, horse's ass. "It's" is an exception to this rule, and I honestly apologize on behalf of the infuriating English language. I didn't invent this stupid rule, but it's hardwired into my brain like gender of nouns to French speakers. Examples: It's a small world, after all. It's a small world, after all. It's a small world, after all. It's a small world, after all. You do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around, that's what it's all about. Well, it's been a long, been a long, been a long, been a long day. Its "Its" is a possessive pronoun. Its interpretation is something like "that which belongs to it", where "it" stands for some previously defined object. In the previous sentence, the object being referred to is the word "its", and the thing that belongs to it is its interpretation. Examples: He left it dead, and with its head he went galumphing back Love rears its ugly head. Using them correctly With practice, it's easy to tell these two devilish words apart. To help you keep them separate, here are some handy tips: * Try replacing your "it's" with "it is" in the sentence. If the sentence becomes obviously wrong, you probably meant to use "its". If it sounds okay, "it's" can stay. Example: "Nothing can take it's place" can't be right, because "Nothing can take it is place" is nonsense. You probably mean "Nothing can take its place". Example: "It's not easy being green". Well, "It is not easy" is right, so the original sentence is okay. * Try replacing your "its" with "his" in the sentence. If it comes out sounding right, "its" can stay. Example: "That's just its way of making friends" must be okay, because "That's just his way of making friends" is grammatical. In general, "its" as a possessive is like "his". You wouldn't write "hi's", would you? Well, maybe you would if you were talking about something belonging to Hiram... * Look at the word that follows "its" or "it's". A noun means that you want "its". An adjective probably indicates "it's". This isn't always true, but it's a half-decent rule of thumb. Example: "The cat licks its tongue into the corners of the evening". "Tongue" is a noun. I probably don't mean "it is tongue", so I'll stick with "its". Where to go from here Misuse of the apostrophe carries over into the confusion between the plural and possessive forms of nouns. This is in some sense less forgivable, since the rule is much more general. Plural nouns require an "s", and possessives require an "'s". Never ever write something like The twelve day's of Christmas That's just wrong, and shouldn't require much thought. If you make this deplorable error, Bob the Angry Flower will descend on you and mess you up. Admittedly, rules involving the apostrophe get somewhat fuzzy in places. I find it hard to pluralize a word like "printf" used as a noun, as in "This function contains twenty-two printfs", since that can lead to confusion. I would simply avoid the issue: "This function contains twenty-two occurrences of printf". Conclusion I'm glad I finally got that off my chest. Sorry to drag on for so long, but this really is important. If you want to be understood, you need to present your thoughts in a way that leaves the fewest barriers to comprehension. The error described here doesn't derail the reader, but it does present a speed bump, a momentary mental hiccup from which one must recover. A moment's thought while writing can make for a smooth ride later on. I'm not alone in my concern for the proper use of the apostrophe. If you're still looking for answers, I'm sure you can find any number of other sources of information. from http://www.cgl.uwaterloo.ca/~csk/its.html The It's vs. Its page If you're confused by these two little words, you've come to the right place. (Not that there aren't other right places.) It's is a contraction for it is or it has. Its is a possessive pronoun meaning, more or less, of it or belonging to it. And there is absolutely, positively, no such word as its'. A simple test If you can replace it[']s in your sentence with it is or it has, then your word is it's; otherwise, your word is its. Another test Its is the neuter version of his and her. Try plugging her into your sentence where you think its belongs. If the sentence still works grammatically (if not logically) then your word is indeed its. Examples It's been good to know you. Contraction: it has It's a bird! It's a plane! Contraction: it is The dodo bird is known for its inability to fly. Possessive pronoun: its inability = the dodo bird's inability from http://www.stormloader.com/garyes/its/#top What do you do for a living? Just curious.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxsonbrownie Posted October 3, 2008 #42 Share Posted October 3, 2008 "For this mighty vessel, the largest ever passenger ship, dwarfs all that stands next to it, making the thousands of spectators which came to see it's launch look little more than ants as they waved the graceful ship out of the port." DERF, Did you Knot;) catch this in the article?? The sentence would read " spectators which came to see it is launch" Doesn't make any cents;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negc Posted October 3, 2008 #43 Share Posted October 3, 2008 For our next lesson we will discuss the differences between "loose" and "lose", "dessert" and "desert" and, if we have time, between "stewart" and "steward".:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiagolfer Posted October 3, 2008 #44 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Well, sure can tell it's or it is Friday and fellow CC's or CC'ers, or CCs are looking forward to winding down from a very stressful week. Congress passed the "bailout bill" today, and I don't know whether to be glad, mad, or sad, or all of the above. BTW, looking forward to sailing on Liberty of the Seas soon, :D presently 1 of the 3 largest passenger cruise ships afloat today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alansfreed Posted October 3, 2008 #45 Share Posted October 3, 2008 And perhaps we could toss in "your" and "you're" while we're at it. And maybe we could teach people how to quote just a tiny, relevant portion of a long post, rather than posting the entire thing over and over :) For our next lesson we will discuss the differences between "loose" and "lose", "dessert" and "desert" and, if we have time, between "stewart" and "steward".:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted October 3, 2008 #46 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I like the word "Tenderizing" witch is tendering to shore My worst word is "Sequestration" (say it out loud) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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