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Why would you pick a Haven suite on NCL over a luxury cruise line?
Tapi replied to Tapi's topic in Norwegian Cruise Line
Thanks for your input. And I wholeheartedly agree with that last paragraph! -
Why would you pick a Haven suite on NCL over a luxury cruise line?
Tapi replied to Tapi's topic in Norwegian Cruise Line
I just did. No formal nights and âresort casualâ vibe. I can live with that. đ -
Why would you pick a Haven suite on NCL over a luxury cruise line?
Tapi replied to Tapi's topic in Norwegian Cruise Line
Weâve done MSC Yacht Club and I enjoyed it. Explora is marketing itself as an âelevatedâ Yacht Club experience so weâll see. I agree. Waiting to see until they actually start sailing this summer to see what the reviews are like. -
Why would you pick a Haven suite on NCL over a luxury cruise line?
Tapi replied to Tapi's topic in Norwegian Cruise Line
Thanks for your input. You do bring up something that I hadnât given much thought about. Attire. Over the years, Iâve become less interested in dressing up. I bring a jacket, some long sleeve shirts and one tie in case I have to dress up a tiny bit, but Iâm not into full blown formal affairs. I need to check their dress code. -
Hi: Looking for opinions from people whoâve experienced luxury cruise lines as well as âship within a shipâ concepts, like NCL Haven or MSC Yacht Club. Iâm currently looking at a Canada/New England itinerary from Quebec City to New York. Norwegian Joy and Explora I have almost identical itineraries. The cost of a Haven Forward Penthouse Suite on NCL is almost identical to the cost of an Ocean Terrace Suite (entry level category) on Explora Journeys, so Iâm torn with the decision. Part of me wants the Haven experience while having access to a larger ship with tons of activities and amenities, and part of me wants a full luxury cruise experience on a smaller, more intimate and sophisticated ship. For those of you whoâve found yourself making this choice, what did you choose and how did you reach that decision? Iâve sailed on MSCâs Yacht Club but I donât have any experience with all suite luxury lines like Explora is marketing itself to be. For what itâs worth, itâs only my wife and I, to celebrate our 20th anniversary. đĽ Thanks for your input. Itâs greatly appreciated!
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Hi: Looking for opinions from people whoâve experienced luxury cruise lines as well as âship within a shipâ concepts, like NCL Haven or MSC Yacht Club. Iâm currently looking at a Canada/New England itinerary from Quebec City to New York. Norwegian Joy and Explora I have almost identical itineraries. The cost of a Haven Forward Penthouse Suite on NCL is almost identical to the cost of an Ocean Terrace Suite (entry level category) on Explora Journeys, so Iâm torn with the decision. Part of me wants the Haven experience while having access to a larger ship with tons of activities and amenities, and part of me wants a full luxury cruise experience on a smaller, more intimate and sophisticated ship. For those of you whoâve found yourself making this choice, what did you choose and how did you reach that decision? Iâve sailed on MSCâs Yacht Club but I donât have any experience with all suite luxury lines like Explora is marketing itself to be. For what itâs worth, itâs only my wife and I, to celebrate our 20th anniversary. đĽ Thanks for your input. Itâs greatly appreciated!
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We always do âany timeâ dining and are always accommodate at a table just for us. Just avoid going during prime hours if you want to avoid a wait. It seems to me like many cruise lines have rearranged their dining rooms to accommodate more smaller tables, making it easier to get one.
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To me, it makes sense to do B2B for two longer cruises that visit different ports (for example 7 night western followed by 7 night eastern). But not for two short cruises going to the same places. Short cruises have a totally different vibe than longer cruises, where people tend to be more inclined to party it up in an attempt to cram as much as possible in the shortened vacation time. That alone would make me shy away from two short cruises back to back.
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Couple of things to keep in mind: Even if thereâs a travel warning for a specific state in Mexico, it may only apply to certain parts and not the entire state. Puerto Vallarta is in Jalisco, and while thereâs a level 3 warning for the state, the city of Puerto Vallarta is considered safe for tourist travel. Baja California Sur, where Cabo San Lucas is located, is under a level 2 warning (very common for international travel). Cabo San Lucas is considered safe for travel as well. To put things into perspective, there are other countries that frequently appear on Caribbean cruise itineraries (like Jamaica, Honduras and Trinidad and Tobago) that are currently under a level 3 travel warning, yet the cruise lines continue sailing there because the specific locations visited are considered safe. When we did this itinerary 4 months ago on Celebrity, MazatlĂĄn was replaced with Ensenada. The state of Sinaloa (where MazatlĂĄn is located), was under a level 4 (do not travel) warning at the time (probably still is).
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Never check in on day 1 before cabins are ready. I like to check in and go straight to my cabin to drop things off. I have zero desire to wander around the ship or going to a jam packed buffet with carry ons in tow. Also, several of the things already listed (gambling, decorating doors, etc). On Disney, decorating doors is such a big thing, that our door stuck out because it was one of the few not decorated. Some people had some crazy elaborate decor. People were so obsessive about it that, on the second day, we got to our cabin and someone had decorated our door for us with all sorts of Disney magnets and cute notes. đ
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We took a cab to the MalecĂłn. We were dropped off right at the beginning and just walked. Along the way, we stopped at the Church of our Lady of Guadalupe, at the Puerto Vallarta sign, and at Playa de los Muertos for photo ops. Pro tip: If you get thirsty and need a beer or two to quench your thirst, donât stop at one of the bars along the way. Go to one of the OXXO stores (like a 7-11) and get 16oz Tecates for $1. đ
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On a roundtrip from Seattle, it doesnât matter as much. If youâll be going and returning the same way, what you see on one side of the ship going, youâll see from the other side of the ship returning. Also, when the ship spends the day viewing glaciers, usually theyâll rotate the ship in position so that people on both sides of the ship can enjoy the views. With all of that said, there are some views that will be luck of the draw. Thereâs not enough pre-planning to know when and where a bank of whales will decide to make an appearance.
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New England/Canada out of Boston vs. NYC Cost?
Tapi replied to Tutone56's topic in Norwegian Cruise Line
Supply and demand Iâm guessing. If youâre looking strictly at NCL, the ship out of Boston is smaller with less capacity. Also, balconies might be at a premium since the ship out of Boston has considerably less . -
We sailed on Enchantment of the Seas when my kids were around that age and we had a great time. On that cruise, I remember that the kids would be begging for us to drop them off at Adventure Ocean as soon as it opened in the morning. đ We sailed to Alaska as well (on Holland America which is considered an âold peopleâ cruise line) and still, the kids had a great time. They didnât even hit the kids club on that cruise. That cruise was ALL about the ports of call. We did so much ashore that, by the time we got back on the ship, the kids would be exhausted and ready to call it a night (all of us were!). Over the years, Iâve watched how my kids interests have changed when we cruise. When they were younger, they actually enjoyed the smaller kids clubs more. I guess they liked the personal attention and simpler things (it was easier to keep them entertained with basic activities at that age). They didnât like the huge, overly elaborate clubs with hundreds of kids on ships like Allure of the Seas and Disney Fantasy (I guess they found them overwhelming). Now, at 11 and 13 years of age, theyâre not as interested in going to the kids club as much (last time we sailed as a family, they didnât go to the kids club a single day). Instead, theyâre more interested in what activities are happening around the ship, so Iâve started looking at the newer and larger ships that cater to their evolving interests.
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Flight Time Manhattan Terminal to Newark Airport
Tapi replied to wtwien's topic in East Coast Departures
That should be enough time, assuming that there are no delays or unforeseen circumstances outside of your control. -
Do keep in mind that MSC tends to change their hours, and they may not match whatâs on your original itinerary. When we did the Mediterranean, we booked excursions (on our own) and our flights home based on what was on our itinerary. Weâd learn the night before arriving at the next port of call that our arrival or departure times (or both) were different than what we had on our paperwork. It was a pain in the butt. More than once we had to rush off the ship to make our excursions, or be back on the ship earlier than expected.
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Flying in day of cruiseâŚ.any recommendations?
Tapi replied to DizNaddy's topic in Gulf Coast Departures
Itâs doable, but itâs a bad idea. One little delay and, not only is your vacation ruined, but the money you saved by not flying in the day prior will pale in comparison to the money you will spend trying to catch up with the ship at the next port of call (think international flights, hotels, additional transportation etc, assuming that you have a passport). Even if you land on time, keep in mind that IAH is a good 60 miles from the port of Galveston, so take traffic, possible delays due to accidents, etc into consideration. Do yourself a huge favor and set some money aside to fly in the night before, not only for the peace of mind, but it will also allow you the begin your cruise rested and relaxed. -
Yes, we have, and more than once. đ Disney was an outstanding cruise, and they do excel in customer service and entertainment, but we quickly realized that other cruise lines offer an equally outstanding (and sometimes better) product at a fraction of the price. Since sailing on Disney, weâve not only done Royal Caribbean, but weâve also done MSC, Holland America, Celebrity, and Carnival. Our previous experience on Disney hasnât affected one bit our enjoyment of subsequent cruises. In my very humble opinion, you need to be a BIG Disney fan to justify the difference in price. Youâre paying extra for a LOT of pixie dust, and not necessarily for a product which is that much better. Since you were asking specifically about Royal Caribbean, not all of their ships are the same. Youâre looking at cruises out of Tampa, which means that youâre looking at one of their oldest, smallest ships. I do recommend that you look instead at their larger and newer ships, usually departing from Port Canaveral or Miami/Ft Lauderdale. Since you mentioned Galveston, Royal will have one of their largest Oasis class ships sailing from there (Allure of the Seas). That may be worth looking into.
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Back in my younger years, I worked for one of the major cruise lines in sales. It boggled my mind how many requests from guests weâd get, asking for an extension on their final payment because they were waiting on a new credit card that they had just applied for, or a credit line increase, or pay day, etc. Often, the balance due wasnât much, maybe a couple hundred dollars, but they still couldnât meet the final payment deadline. It wasnât any of my business but Iâd wonder: âWhy is this person going on a cruise when they canât even afford to charge a couple hundred dollars to a credit card??â
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Different mood depending on the day. - Sometimes, I donât care to be waited on. - Sometimes, I get up super early and itâs nice to go to the buffet when the place is still deserted. Grab a few items, find an outdoor table, and watch the sunrise. - Sometimes, I like to grab a little bit of everything and create my own breakfast rather than having to choose from a menu.
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Personally, if given the choice between a big suite on a big, mass market line, or a standard stateroom on a luxury cruise line, Iâd go with the luxury cruise line. But thatâs the beauty of the cruise industry: choices for all interests and budgets. For example, my best friend is taking his family on a 3 night Disney cruise to the Bahamas the same day Iâm leaving for London to take my family on a P&O cruise to the Norwegian Fjords. Weâre both spending about the same amount of money on our respective vacations. We both think that the other one is stupid with their vacation choices. đ
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Based on your income and spending habits, it seems like you can afford it, but youâre choosing not to. I have friends who have their kids in $20K/year private schools, drive Porsches, and live in a beautiful home in an exclusive neighborhood. But when they go on a cruise, they sail on Carnival. đ Although they could easily afford that $20K suite on Royal, they prioritize their kids education and put the money there instead.
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The percentage of true luxury accommodations across the cruise industry is very small, just like the percentage of people who can afford them is very small. The people I personally know who engage in true luxury travel (not a suite on Royal Caribbean) are people who can comfortably afford it. The difference between the top 5% and the top 1% of income earners is very vast, and the true luxury travelers are most likely in the 1%. Personally, I set aside 3% of my annual income for cruise vacations. Whatever I can afford with that amount is what I plan on. It works well for me.
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That sounds great! We normally donât book excursions through the cruise line, so an actual onboard credit will be more useful.