PelicanBill

No Docking at 1:00 and 1:30 at this point. The ships would need to be heading in by now.

Another consideration is the County and Port need to consider the ships need to return where HAL has resources and staff to handle the disembarkation correctly. Sending them to Galveston or New Orleans or Mobile where they don't have those resources is senseless. I sure hope the Coast Guard's new porky attitude does not extend to medevac of critically ill patients. And, oh joy, the Bahamas, just where everyone wants to end up in a hospital and maybe in need of intensive care. I know my insurance company would disown me. And apparently travel insurance trying to wriggle out of coverage for that as well. For the crew on these ships, one night in a foreign hospital anywhere might bankrupt their families. I hope the cruise lines are working hard, really hard, to protect them and get them home if needed.

From the very first moment we learned they were to transfer "healthy" passengers to the Rotterdam we knew it was destined to fail. Without full testing, you cannot know who is infectious and not symptomatic. It was inevitable that a few passengers would become symptomatic after transfer to Rotterdam. Now we have two ships in the same situation. (Almost said in the same boat. )

I think they can't know what the deaths were really caused by without a supervising medical professional statement and/or autopsy. Many deaths in the US have already happened from Covid-19 but were recorded as pulmonary failure, pneumonia, etc. as a result of low testing.

There is now a rapid test which uses drops of blood to test for immume response to Covid-19 (antibodies?). Results in one minute. It is not a test that can be used to 100% diagnose Covid-19 but can be used to pre-screen and isolate people who are likely to have been exposed or developing it. Source: company in my town making it, ready to ship thousands, $35 each.

Any updates from any of you? The justification of "CDC says so" had to be completely made up. I am diabetic and this outraged me. There are plenty of other groups of people more susceptible to severe cases. Why not screen out people who smoke and have asthma as well? Over 70? I bet we can deny boarding to half the passengers.

Problem with refits: Dry docks are scheduled out for years. Soft refits requires a ton of materials ordered and staged ahead, and crews to fly in to do the work. In close quarters. Nobody would call that"essential" and this would not be allowed in most areas right now...

One hazzard... even if ships start sailing we will have many many ports refusing ships for quite some time.

Good point... me too!

They WERE profitable. The question is WHEN will they be again? If we have to weather a year before there is a vaccine and the law of the land is nobody over 50 go on cruises... for a year... how does that impact cash flow? If they enter bankruptcy for running out of cash and the only way to fill cabins is at 50% fares... will they be able to make debt service? I think the court will still have to look at all that since they just wiped out millions of people's investments to reorganize.

Just kidding. But it's a little bit like what we saw last year in the Florida ports, isn't it? We are learning a lot about what it looks like to idle entire fleets. Taking turns on port piers, clusters of ships in makeshift anchorages in the Bahamas. It's surreal.

Both storms were too far east to be of interest and short lived to generate any discussion. I don't cover every development at sea... same in the Pacific. Many storms out there that never threaten cruises or ports. And I can't track every ship that might run into these oddities - but when you see such a possibility please do post it... happy to facilitate then!

The reason companies enter bankruptcy is they run out of cash. The immediate impact is 1. Can't make payroll 2. Can't pay suppliers 3. Can't pay debt service and default occurs Look at the cash balance - stronger in 2019 than in 2018. That's good. But with ships idle and bookings down the question is how fast will they burn through that cash, and do they have any way to create any more cash or is that it? When will it run out? Chapter 11 reorganization depends on presenting a new business plan to exit bankruptcy that shows ability to make money again - you have to convince a financing source or two to put up the money to bridge you through bankruptcy and then afterward AND pay them back. Usually that means restructuring the company and selling off assets to generate some money and have a leaner operation. At a high interest rate and with new board members and convenants of performance each quarter. Source: done all this as a mid level executive in a global company.

There are some unpredictable mornings as NCL borrows various terminal buildings. We had the spacious Terminal G when I boarded Breakaway last October. Plenty of room, but then a full Coast Guard inspection delayed boarding by 2 hours. So it was past 1pm when they started and the hall was packed. Boarding did not finish until 4pm. And the company under contract to do security and manage people movement messed up the boarding with terrible confusion over who was boarding at any time. Different people were calling different categories at the same time!

It does appear they allow 2 people under 21 in a connecting cabin. I just re-read the FAQ page.