SwordBlazer Cruising

You mean how Delta did with their Skymiles program? Segments or the amount of flights don't matter, its the cost if the ticket and your in flight spend on your co branded Amex

That's correct. It is a Carnival company, not an outside, un affiliated company or concessionaire like Steiners of London who run the spas or Starboard who runs the gift shops.

Carnival Global Casino Operations are a wholly owned subsidiary of Carnival Corporation, you are correct. It is not a concession like some other cruise lines .

You are correct. Do people have this same energy when a cruise line status matches or someone with a credit card gets the same flying, boarding and upgrade benefit as someone who flys 5 times a month? Its loyalty and marketing 101.

People will find the smallest nuance and complain about it, in my opinion. Just like the Q4 revenue. Someone will pick it apart and find the negative. At the end of the day, no other industry had their business shut down for 14 months with little to zero revenue coming in. Give them some time. They clearly are on the right path.

A cruise ship terminal is a US point of entry, therefore a government/ federal controlled property. Is Cannabis legal on the government level? No, it’s only legal within some states. This is the reason.

Lol, I advanced myself a bit there! 😂

I think in this case, someone committing murder in their cabin is a bit far beyond enforcement. Look at what all the airline employees went through during the pandemic. They enforced as they could being regulated by the FAA but people still did what they want, punched flight attendants, etc. This is 2024 and some people have no decorum or regard, they do what they want. On a cruise ship, shopping mall, airline.

This is how corporations work. They are doing a good job of paying down debt. Most companies have debt, look at Amazon. They have reported long term debt at 65 billion.

I agree with you. I think the issue at hand is there are so many variations of safety/ nuisance issues that it becomes hard. Kid’s running in the hallway are a nuisance, adults drunk, stumbling are also a safety and nuisance issue. There are so many avenues. Take a spin on YouTube and a vast majority of the onboard issues, at least on CCL are adults, either fighting or absolutely smashed drunk.

That’s the point of my question. How far is too far and what should the cruiseline do?

You are not wrong but if you read the hundreds and hundreds of comments and the vast amount of YouTube videos of federally illegal drugs onboard then you would understand why

Carnival has drug dogs, not marajuana dogs, drug dogs at each home port and also onboard certain ships. Clearly they have information that non of us do.

I agree but most of the complaints are adults & kids who are unruly, etc. What defines being unruly? I do agree w you though there is a line in the sand that must be drawn.

Drugs? That is a massive part of the problem and one that has many many complaints.

Good point and some parents will say their kids running around, etc are being kids. Point is rules and rules and parents or others can’t pick and choose what suits them best

I agree however the airline industry doesn’t even share details of unruly passengers with each other. In my opinion its going to come down to what is considered unruly? That word means different things to different people. Should the people who smuggle alcohol or rum runners onboard be punished the same since breaking rules is breaking rules, no matter what the offense is? Food for thought.

Let’s play devils advocate. What is the appropriate punishment? Keep in mind, we live in the age of cell phones, its my right etc? There is unruly behavior on all cruise lines, not just CCL.

No, Carnival owns and operates its own casinos. The spa, gift shops, and art auction are concessions

Yes, it is. Covid was the catalyst and remains the reason why they are paying back billions at not the very best of interest rates. No major publicly traded cruise company is profitable, because of Covid. They can’t catch up. NCL tried to keep their rates high, it failed. CCL keeps their rates low, it has failed. The beat goes on.

It is true to an extent its all of our vacations but some people just do not like to be told what and what not to do and me included sometimes. How should they handle the kids running and the boom boxes? Like do what, lock the kids in their cabin or fine the parents. Its a very touchy subject and this type of behavior is not exclusive to CCL as well.

You do have a point but just remember that the same people who complain about these rules are perhaps the same people who break "other" rules like smuggling on alcohol or edible gummies, etc. Not saying this is you but it is a fact. Can't have it both ways.

Thats correct. And MSC will give thousands of free cruises away and NCL will continue to loose hundreds of millions of dollars and RCL will be just as leveraged as Carnival. If anyone thinks the cruiselines are different they are mistaken.

No, what we need is grown ass adults to follow the rules. I just came off a CCL cruise and I first hand heard a guest say they are entitled to do what they want as they sail 15 times a year, blah blah blah. You very well know what would the perception be if they started to rip or grab radios out of offenders hands...

I have sailed on NCL and there was the very same marijuana issue there as well. The rude, obnoxious and arrogant guests are everywhere now perhaps a bit more on Carnival but I have personally witnessed security telling parents to stop their kids from running on lido and they basically told security to FO...