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Is this a fact? Or, your interpretation? It's possible Oceania is making calculated short term decisions to reduce costs to positively impact their parent company's bottom line, even if it may affect long term prospects. NCLH stock price is well below its pre shutdowns price and has generally trended downward the last two years. Its unsecured debt rating is in the junk bond range. If NCL is not able to meet is obligations its future is tenuous. In such circumstances it is not uncommon for publicly traded companies to emphasize the short term over the long run. And, yes I'm speculating. "Never again" spoken in the heat of frustration is not definitive. Its possible O is confident many passengers will take your view of accepting missed ports, even if they become more prevalent.

Concluding "it's not the cruise lines interest to cancel ports" is speculative too. We really don't know what their interests entail. Companies, even large public ones, seemingly make decision blunders at times. Bud Light anyone?

Hi Frank!

Does Frank poach, err, post here?

I too @QuestionEverything. First Oceania cruise this August. We don’t drink alcohol and I won’t buy shipboard credit unless at a discount. We typically purchase our own airfare. We only bought O Life for three pp excursions, just to sample these on a new line. I suspect the new marketing initiative may be a cloak for steep price increases, which will be promoted using the abused “free” euphemism. Will O need to change its YWYW slogan since it implies choices the à la carte pricing model entails? Or will this be a pax be damned full speed ahead campaign?

It’s on page two of thread. It wasn’t easy for me either and more difficult the second time. Often I am able to search and find CC content I know I’ve seen by using google, etc.

It seems some are willing to give Oceania the benefit of the doubt regarding port cancellation decisions, and others are doubting the benefits of cruising with Oceania, in part, because of such decisions and ensuing communications. Status quo bias may impact perceptions of pax with either viewpoint. Our perceived objectivity is often more subjective than we realize and admit. We don’t see things as they are, we see things as we are. One viewpoint (with its biases) is not right and the other wrong (with its biases). Both, and all the variants between, are relevant. These biases reveal themselves during such discourse. Discovering and owing our own biases is valuable, whereas defending such biases (which are belief based) is unproductive. I appreciate the commenting has been civil, though I admit I am prone to poke fun and use hyperbole - though this awareness has moderated these tendencies. I appreciate reading about other cruisers experiences and discussions about such, both positive and negative, in order to inform and hopefully improve my own decision making regarding cruising in general and selecting specific itineraries and or cruise lines (and even different ships in a fleet). I’ve yet to cruise with Oceania. My DW and I are booked for an August 2023 sailing on Vista. My only experience is with Viking. There were many things we liked, but there are enough reasons about dislikes for why we decided to try Oceania. I recognize many of my own biases (and preferences) and I am presently attempting to develop expectations that will increase the likelihood I will be satisfied. And of course the most important expectation is I will be satisfied. Gratitude, not ignorance,is bliss. So, although I hope our upcoming British Isles Splendors cruise arrives safely and timely in each scheduled port, I am better prepared if ports are missed and if communications are poor by reading this thread. Thanks @hankandteri, et al.

Indeed, maritime law governs here. It would behove cruise lines to capitalize on the captain being the ship’s CEO by providing them training to maximize achieving passenger happiness, if they are not already doing so. Such training should emphasize communication skills development.

Perhaps when “rocket science” produces space cruises, these will be easier to make a completely informed booking decision than presently for an Oceania cruise. 😎

I expect it’s easier to fleece consumers than it is to convince them they’ve been fleeced. Perceptual programming is highly effective. At any rate, I was intentionally hyperbolic to add my agreement with the OP.

So … the Oceania slogan might more aptly be, “Our World, Our Way?”

@hankandteri, it seems the quality and style of senior managements, in many industries, is increasingly paternalistic. Perhaps there have become more sheep, unaware of being fleeced. Many things have become Orwellian. I had hoped the cruise industry would be more resilient against this.

Non sequitur. The manner of the announcement and follow up begs serious questions. With cruise lines seeking to recover from the impacts of the shutdowns, it seems plausible decisions formerly made by a ship’s staff might now be made by management on shore. If so, this is likely a slippery slope for success. It would affect staff who may have lost autonomy (a possible factor for how the captain made the announcement) and guests, especially those who are well travelled. Notwithstanding observations about the busyness of the ship’s future cruises office, thankfully there is increasing options available to travelers due to competition as several lines are expanding their fleets, almost as if said shutdowns never happened.

We don’t cruise the way things are, we cruise the way we are.

Regent too.

So . . . does this give Viking marketing another “no” to add their list?

Head East, on their Flat as a Pancake album, got the title of their one hit wonder song wrong. It should have been Never Been Any Raison.

It may have been a case of “I don’t think” by the design team or someone who overrode them. Or, perhaps they decided since many guests use smart devices to track fitness that we would be grateful for the extra steps!?! 😎

Are the “terms and conditions” of this offer retroactive then?🤪

If Regent is laying an egg, it might as well be a Fabergé one. 🙃

Airlines and resorts are now receiving most of our our travel budget. The last time we cruised was exactly 4 years ago on the Mediterranean Odyssey itinerary. We had cruises booked for 2020 (cancelled by Viking) and 2021 (we cancelled). Our TA had difficulty getting Viking Air to book our requested business class flights. It wasn't until we threatened to cancel for a full refund (right up against the deadline) that Viking Air acquiesced. I don't enjoy the haggling and it really shouldn't be so difficult for the on ship and on shore services to compliment each other to produce truly memorable experiences for guests. Unfortunately it appears the onshore ops are every bit a challenging as before, but now there are reports from former Viking cheerleaders of slipping (sinking?) on ship standards. Slipping standards seems to be an issue across many lines in the small ship cruise line class, whether premium or luxury.