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  1. Who is next? How about men, as there is a greater mortality rate than there is for women? How about Americans? More cases and soon to be more deaths than any other country? I'm sure that further examination of the statistics could identify many other more susceptible groups. If Celebrity feels that a doctor's note is required to protect more vulnerable customers, let's expand the requirement to every passenger and ensure that we get all vulnerable groups.
  2. OP, as you had planned on staying in Dublin for several days anyway, why not continue with that plan and pop over to Amsterdam when it's time to cruise. Alternatively, there are a few 2021 cruises being offered by other lines.
  3. Thanks, @WonderMan3, I couldn't agree more.
  4. I doubt that there will be much of a market for old second-hand cruise ships in the foreseeable future, but I agree that it's worth considering as they cut their losses. The bean counters would have to do a market analysis, but I think that things are far too fluid at the current time to undertake a study of this nature. Still, this is the type of forward thinking that Celebrity needs to be doing if they are to rebound successfully.
  5. LOL. Pretty sure that the people printing and mailing the tags aren't customer service reps or financial office employees. Does anyone know if the tags are actually printed in house? It's the type of job that might well be contracted out.
  6. I agree. As much as cruise lines might want to get up and running as soon as possible, they face a number obstacles. With all of the negative publicity they've endured, no level of government is going to be in a hurry to relax restrictions just to allow foreign flagged cruise lines to rush back. More importantly, as long as COVID-19 is still around, even if at greatly reduced levels, no cruise line wants to take a chance on having yet another outbreak on one of their ships. Given the possibility of transmission by asymptomatic patients for several days prior to symptoms emerging, no amount of dockside testing or doctors' notes are going to prevent such a reoccurrence as long as the virus is around.
  7. I think this is what they are referring to [https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/groups-at-higher-risk.html]: Groups at Higher Risk for Severe Illness COVID-19 is a new disease and there is limited information regarding risk factors for severe disease. Based on currently available information and clinical expertise, older adults and people of any age who have serious underlying medical conditions might be at higher risk for severe illness from COVID-19. Based on what we know now, those at high-risk for severe illness from COVID-19 are: People 65 years and older People who live in a nursing home or long-term care facility Learn how you can help protect yourself if you are at higher risk of severe illness from COVID-19. People of all ages with underlying medical conditions, particularly if not well controlled, including: People with chronic lung disease or moderate to severe asthma People who have serious heart conditions People who are immunocompromised Many conditions can cause a person to be immunocompromised, including cancer treatment, smoking, bone marrow or organ transplantation, immune deficiencies, poorly controlled HIV or AIDS, and prolonged use of corticosteroids and other immune weakening medications People with severe obesity (body mass index [BMI] of 40 or higher) People with diabetes People with chronic kidney disease undergoing dialysis People with liver disease
  8. Glad to see such an up to date report by Cruise Critic. <sarcasm>. Celebrity EclipseAfter Chile closed its ports to cruise ships, Celebrity Eclipse was unable to debark passengers. The ship is scheduled to sail to San Diego, where passengers and crew will be allowed to disembark March 27, following health screenings.
  9. I agree that waiting until final payment would have been a good idea, but given the length of time required to develop, test and produce a viable vaccine, there won't we one ready by August (final payment) or even the time of the cruise in November according to the experts.
  10. While I agree that most media outlets will have a spin to their reporting, it's typically consistent and easy to discern. Consequently, it's not overly difficult to read a cross section of articles or to watch news reporting and get a reasonably accurate sense of the truth. I'm interested in knowing more about what you consider to be factual resources and why you believe that they are stating facts and not their interpretation of the fact.
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