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  1. While, again, no legal expert, I don't believe you are correct. The governor cannot control international travel. He can impose a quarantine for anyone entering the state, but that must apply either to specific locations and risk factors, or uniformly to everyone. Travel restrictions, interstate, have not been proven valid yet, and some in the past have been struck down due to vague or discriminatory reasons for the restriction.
  2. Sorry, we don't support video on our shipboard bandwidth. I'll take your word for it, but whether those talks are "improved" by the threats and lawsuits, I'd be surprised.
  3. I'm not an epidemiologist, so I wouldn't know. But they are.
  4. The CDC requires that each port in the US sign an agreement between the port authority, the state or local health agency, and the cruise line to allow for total passengers in the port each day, to allow for disembarkation of ill or quarantined passengers, and how many, etc. The cruise line must also show contracts with health care providers (hosptials), medical transportation providers, and accommodation providers (either a facility owned by the cruise line, or a hotel, etc, that will provide space for quarantine), in each port. Without these agreements and contracts, the cruise line cannot
  5. No, they won't be charged full wharfage, etc. They will have to pay additional hours for line handlers, and perhaps the standby tugs, if required by the port, and maybe additional hours at the dock. The real reason against this is that most slips are not wide enough for a cruise ship to turn around in, so the ship would have to move out to the turning basin, turn around, and come back into the slip.
  6. I don't know if the CDC and cruise lines are talking any more, or if anyone's position has changed any lately. Everyone thinks the CDC's comment about "hopefully" cruising in July was a change in position, but the next part of their sentence was "under the requirements of the CSO", meaning that the CDC hoped the cruise lines would get their fingers out and meet the requirements so cruising could return in July.
  7. The "12 hour rule" only applied to public spaces, and only in terminals. It had to do with comingling of embarking and disembarking populations, not a need for more sanitation onboard.
  8. The CDC requirements do not apply to foreign ports.
  9. But it is the one area that the CDC can control, while it can't control your neighbors. And people on cruise can bring in variants from overseas. Admittedly, the risk has dropped, but again, 1000 people in your town will likely have a small contact area, while a cruise disembarkation can lead to 1000 different contact areas.
  10. Yes, it was called out. But, if you divide the terminal into embarkation areas and routes, and disembarkation areas and routes, which many of them already do, what does it matter whether it has been 12 hours or 6 days? The idea is to segregate the two groups, and if you do that, you can have them doing it simultaneously. Glad the facts give you comic relief.
  11. And, as I've said, the "12 hour rule" would likely never have been challenged, as it is relatively simple in most terminals to split things up so disembarking passengers never enter the spaces of embarking passengers.
  12. Yes, who has to have a negative covid test. And, the CDC classifies a flight as transportation, while a cruise ship is a "close residential" environment.
  13. I know the USCG has mandates to inspect vessels, but also have mandates not to "impede the commerce" of the vessel, in other words, don't unduly delay the vessel. This may have been inserted by the CDC's legal office as part of a similar mandate. If the 12 hour limit is no longer listed, and only that the two operations (embarking and disembarking) do not use the same equipment or spaces, "as much as practicable", I don't see much difference. As I've said, I don't see splitting terminals into separate "routes" and using different routes onto/off of the ship as a major stumbling block, so I
  14. Having worked many turn-around days, and seen how operations are at various cruise terminals, this is a requirement that can easily be done at nearly every terminal, simply by segregating disembarkation from embarkation, and could almost be done simultaneously, as far as the terminal is concerned.
  15. I don't have a copy of the original instructions, to see whether it has changed, and the youtube link doesn't work (and we can't do youtube on the ship's internet), but if is a cruise "influencer", I would take it with several grains of salt, unless he shows visual proof of the change. But, I would say that anything is having a lessening effect on the CDC is way premature.
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