I wonder if these people removed the autotips?

[vacruizer]

Maybe coincidence, but it strikes me a little odd that this guy is the CEO of a company that sells travel insurance? Wonder if he has some kind of axe to grind for other reasons towards Carnival?

 

I've seen far worse scuff marks in cabins - no way are you banned for life for something like that. There's more to this story - either a room stewards retaliated for some reason or there was something far more serious that happened onboard.

[rednose83]

I was on this cruise and didn't see any lifetime-ban worthy behavior but it is a big ship so maybe I missed it. I don't think scratching furniture would get you a lifetime ban though. Maybe they flipped out when the HD asked for payment for the damages? :confused:

[lulubell]

:eek:

 

someone has WAAAYYYY TOO MUCH time on their hands.

If so use adobe photoshop !

[jessemon]

:eek:

 

Could be "teeth marks".....LOL....:D

[hdgmedic]

Maybe its just a way to get people who cruise and go on vacation to visit a website that sells travel insurance. Sure doesn't hurt his Google ranking. Hmmmmm..........

[Wolfie48]

That is freaking bizarre!

Did you see the pic of the 'damage'?? Even if they did do that, it's so small!!!!

 

This is an odd story.....not sure I'm buying it.

 

There has to be more to it....If we don't hear both sides of the story it's hard to say:confused:

[tootsiescurly]

Know I will be flamed for this comment, but why is it Carnival can do no wrong? Just curious. We have not found a cruise line or resort that is perfect yet. I think we all have been on a Carnival cruise where a Carnival employee has provided less than adequate customer service.

[salty dingo]

These days, anyone can start a company and call themselves CEO. It does not mean anything, except the guy calling himself that has an inferiority complex.

 

It doesn't make sense - if he got banned for being violent or something, why would he publicise it? Let it go, and no one would ever know. Now it will be in the search engines for eternity. That's stupid.

 

If it happened the way he says, again, it's very, very odd that someone would get such a severe action for such a minor offense. It would probably take maintenance 10 minutes to repair that with some wood putty and varnish.

 

I am thinking the guy is just not all there, upstairs.

 

Here's another person banned for life - from RCI. Her story and the truth were two different things entirely.

[S.S.Oceanlover]

These days, anyone can start a company and call themselves CEO. It does not mean anything, except the guy calling himself that has an inferiority complex.

 

It doesn't make sense - if he got banned for being violent or something, why would he publicise it? Let it go, and no one would ever know. Now it will be in the search engines for eternity. That's stupid.

 

If it happened the way he says, again, it's very, very odd that someone would get such a severe action for such a minor offense. It would probably take maintenance 10 minutes to repair that with some wood putty and varnish.

 

I am thinking the guy is just not all there, upstairs.

 

Here's another person banned for life - from RCI. Her story and the truth were two different things entirely.

 

Did she just move to Brooklyn? She lived in Cleveland last I heard.:confused:

 

Bill

[salty dingo]

Did she just move to Brooklyn? She lived in Cleveland last I heard.:confused:

 

Bill

Old Brooklyn is apparently a suburb of Cleveland.

[tootsiebit]

Okay so I don't get on here all day long ...and darn it..I am trying for the life of me to figure out what all of ya'll are referring to...another thread? I am so confused (which isn't hard for me) and wondering if someone out in CC land will enlighten me...NOTE TO SELF: Never Ever not get on CC for a complete day in order to keep up with all happenings....LOL:D

Tootsie

[salty dingo]

I am trying for the life of me to figure out what all of ya'll are referring to...another thread?

Click the link in the first post of this thread. It's not another thread, it is some blog a guy put up about his experience getting banned for life from Carnival. He has the documents to prove it!

[S.S.Oceanlover]

Old Brooklyn is apparently a suburb of Cleveland.

 

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

 

Bill

[richfret]

Looks like we have a new term to memerize. I know VIP is "VERY IMPORTANT PERSON" and the new term is BFL ................................ "BANNED FOR LIFE". Yikes!

 

I just get that funny feeling .................... can't prove why ................... have my doubts ..................... not quite sure ........................ some thing is missing here.

[G'ma]

HA!!

 

Sure, Carnival just goes around banning people for life just because.........

 

I'm not buying this guys tale at all......

 

67 cruises on Carnival and nobody has ever questioned me about the condition of my cabin......nor anyone I know that has ever cruised....nor any of the large groups I used to host on their ships....

 

Like most stories, this is one side......and probably not the entire story. We'll never know the full story but, guaranteed, we'll discuss it 'til it's death....:D

[grandmato4]

Yes, the story is strange, but truth is often stranger than fiction.:eek: I highly doubt this is the last we have heard about this incidence. If this story did happen anywhere near what was reported, we should all hope it isn't the last we hear of it.

[FantasyLineAddict]

This is bizarre.

[FantasyLineAddict]

Since this story posting is tied with with autotips, I have to write about something funny..

 

We had a problem with our S&S cards last week, I couldn't charge and then found out that my daughter's profile was on my account and I was on hers even though the names were correct on the card. Also they entered my son's birthday as the same date as my husband's so he didn't get on the camp carnival roster even though I had pre-registered (no biggie, just couldn't figure out why until we discovered this). It took several trips to get it all straightened out and get new cards printed and then we had additional problems re-boarding from the first port as my daughter's pic came up for me, anyway....

 

Everytime I was at the desk, people were removing auto tips but one man stood out - he kept listing off excuses as to why he was doing it, he went on and on and on - I almost interupted and said I'd pay them for him, it was that irritating to listen to. The guest relations crew member (eastern European woman) looks him square in the face and says with mucho attitude, "sir, we don't care to know why you are removing gratuities." I just about fell over laughing. The man stomped off and his face was deep purple. I'm sure at that point he felt he had a real excuse for removing them - big jerk.

[BlueJacketsFan1]

I don't know if it is true or not. I do know that a lot of people these days don't like to admit that their kids might do something that this, or that they might do the same. In the one picture the kid has his hand on something that looks kind of like a bottle opener. Maybe it isn't, but if it is why would you need a bottle opener if you were only drinking bud out of twist off bottles. I am sure they will do like so many other people and end up filing a law suit. Personally if that were to happen and I knew that my kids didn't do anything wrong. I think I would be asking for the police to be called or I would do it myself. I would ask Carnival if I could leave the ship and if they said no. I would be let the police know that I was being held against my will on the ship, and that Carnival was saying that I could not leave the ship. Maybe I wouldn't get anywhere with this idea, but it also might just get them to let you leave, or at least show record of you being held on the ship.

[FantasyLineAddict]

I don't know if it is true or not. I do know that a lot of people these days don't like to admit that their kids might do something that this, or that they might do the same. In the one picture the kid has his hand on something that looks kind of like a bottle opener. Maybe it isn't, but if it is why would you need a bottle opener if you were only drinking bud out of twist off bottles. I am sure they will do like so many other people and end up filing a law suit. Personally if that were to happen and I knew that my kids didn't do anything wrong. I think I would be asking for the police to be called or I would do it myself. I would ask Carnival if I could leave the ship and if they said no. I would be let the police know that I was being held against my will on the ship, and that Carnival was saying that I could not leave the ship. Maybe I wouldn't get anywhere with this idea, but it also might just get them to let you leave, or at least show record of you being held on the ship.

 

I really don't think they were "held," I think they spent all that time arguing back and forth - it just sounds better for the story to say you were detained rather than delayed. They could have left and Carnival would have billed their credit card and then they could have fought it. It happens all the time in hotels. Most hotels would eat that amount of damage though so there is a lot more to this story, most likely some verbal physical threats in the middle of the argument.

[CruisnMom007]

Seems sort of credible to me. Only barely.

 

The only part that made no sense was the part where they were "forced to sign a document"

 

I cannot see any possible way a cruise line could force someone to sign a document they did not agree with. If you sign the document, you do so under your own free will.

 

Also, detained for 2 hours after the other passengers had disembarked.? Umm, I think that is bunk. They are not going to delay the boarding of new passengers over that. They a lot more interested in clearing the ship and getting ready for the next load of passengers, than they are in a damage claim.

 

The marks on the dresser in the photo seem very minor, but there is no way to know if those are the same marks in question. Maybe there are some other, worse marks out of the picture.

 

If it all went down as the guy says, it is very unfortunate for him. However, people in stressful situations have a tendency to twist the facts until the make the situation favorable to them. So, I'd take this with a lot of grains of salt.

 

There is a link to the document, but it looks like they did NOT sign it but the ships captain and others did! That is a crazy story!! I have been in cabins that had some "damage" too, will take pics from here on out after seeing this story!

[tea4ular]

Kid looks like he was drinking that wine sitting there... :eek:

 

 

I thought the same thing (look at the expression on his face too)...Maybe that was the offense? :eek:

[sandravb79]

I find it very fishy that they just seem to have these pictures of the furniture involved, clearly in focus!

Not somewhere blurry in the background. Not a kid standing in front of it.

No, the issue is right there, in focus, with kid posing proudly next to it.

 

How many pictures do you have with that much "detail" of your stateroom? We usually take a picture of the whole room at the beginning of the trip, to show at home to the family members that didn't come, and we sometimes end up having a funny picture during the trip (towel animal for example), but I don't think I could find such a "detail" picture of furniture in my vacation pictures. That then just happens to be the subject to lead to the Life Time Ban.

[Essiesmom]

Wasn't this cruise John Heald's last on Freedom before going on vacation? Might be interesting if we could ask him for clarification...Privacy/legality should not be an issue, as the individual in question has posted his name all over, by posting the letter with his name and address at the top...EM

[salty dingo]

I think I would be asking for the police to be called or I would do it myself. I would ask Carnival if I could leave the ship and if they said no. I would be let the police know that I was being held against my will on the ship, and that Carnival was saying that I could not leave the ship. Maybe I wouldn't get anywhere with this idea, but it also might just get them to let you leave, or at least show record of you being held on the ship.

My thoughts, too. Here's why I don't think he was held at geparture as he says:

• Carnival has no proof who did the damage, other than his word against the steward's - no video and no eyewitnesses. It's just not enough proof to pursue at all.
  
• At disembarkation, security and guest services has their hands full getting thousands of people off the ship. They simply are not going to complicate matters by pursuing a furniture damage claim.
  
• As others have said, Carnival could simply post a charge for repair on the onboard account and the guest could dispute it later with the CC company. They would probably win.
  
• Getting banned happens only for serious infractions - verbal or physical threats or violence, for example. Or in the case of the gal on RCI, for being a con artist, and repeat offender. No one ever got banned for furniture damage, with no proof. That is silly.
  
• Perhaps he was held for two hours in the brig for getting violent. If it happend while in port, he would have been escorted off by police and not detained. I think the incident happened at sea, where all they could do was detain him.
  
• Only he is banned, not his wife or kids. That means he is the one who committed the infraction. It the banning was for damage in the cabin, how could they blame only him?
  

Bottom line - the guy is making hay out of an unfortunate incident that, if he was smart, he would not publicise. He got banned for bad behavior. And now, he's shifting blame, for what reason we can only speculate.

 

I hope Carnival issues a rebuttal, but unless the press picks this up and it becomes a national story, I don't think they will.