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Hi, we are going on Princess, this March with my 13.5 yr old dd.

 

Looking at links to the teen clubs schedules it appears they have an open house on the first night from 7 to 10 pm,, THEN have planned activities starting and going till ONE am.

 

Teens are 13-17.. and frankly , I think my 13 yr old girl ,, and really any 13 yr old,, should not have activities that go that late!!!! I mean, holiday or not,,, what they heck is that??

 

I am a bit uncomfortable with the big age spread too, my dd is 13,, and as I have older teen boys( 17 and 19) I know that she is in a whole other world then they are.. for goodness sake,, am I losing it,, but where would I normally let my 13 yr hang out with a 17 yr boy!?? NO WHERE here ,, thats for sure.

 

I wish they divided the groups a bit better, I was hoping for 12-15 , or 13-16, am a crazy..

 

Do any other parents of teens think about this. j

 

 

Last cruise our boys were 14 and 16 and didn't really hang out in teen club much, they did find a few people to walk around with ,, but mostly hung out together.

 

My dd will be alone with me, brothers not coming,, so perhaps I am more nervous as she will not have a sibling to hang out with or watch over her. ??

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All kids clubs, not just the teen programs run till 1am (some till 3am). As a parent, you know your child. I am one that goes in and takes mine out at 10pm. I know many that ask if their child can "stay all night".

 

So I can tell you, just from experience, you probably won't get a lot of support on this one. ;)

 

Heck I can't even stay out till 1am without falling asleep in my soup. :D

 

But I think we are in the minority on this one. ;)

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You aren't the only one that doesn't like it. Our son cruised with us at 16 and 17 and I was shocked to learn the teen nightclub went until about 2 am most nights. We set our own curfew that he had to follow. If we had an early excursion, he was expected in by midnight which was even too late for me. His DH would watch tv while waiting for him to come in. We only let him out until 2am the last night of the cruise since he could sleep on the flight home.

 

Set what you think is appropriate and stick to it. She might argue at first but you won't be the only one pulling their kids out early. I know the first night, first cruise we had said midnight and we would meet him in Johnny Rockets (we were on Mariner of the Seas). Seems other parents had the same idea as we weren't the only ones who were sitting in the outside booths of the closed restaurant.:D

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Hi, we are going on Princess, this March with my 13.5 yr old dd.

 

Looking at links to the teen clubs schedules it appears they have an open house on the first night from 7 to 10 pm,, THEN have planned activities starting and going till ONE am.

 

Teens are 13-17.. and frankly , I think my 13 yr old girl ,, and really any 13 yr old,, should not have activities that go that late!!!! I mean, holiday or not,,, what they heck is that??

 

I am a bit uncomfortable with the big age spread too, my dd is 13,, and as I have older teen boys( 17 and 19) I know that she is in a whole other world then they are.. for goodness sake,, am I losing it,, but where would I normally let my 13 yr hang out with a 17 yr boy!?? NO WHERE here ,, thats for sure.

 

I wish they divided the groups a bit better, I was hoping for 12-15 , or 13-16, am a crazy..

 

Do any other parents of teens think about this. j

 

 

Last cruise our boys were 14 and 16 and didn't really hang out in teen club much, they did find a few people to walk around with ,, but mostly hung out together.

 

My dd will be alone with me, brothers not coming,, so perhaps I am more nervous as she will not have a sibling to hang out with or watch over her. ??

 

On this point, I will give CCL a heads up - I did not realize that the Princess Age Group was so large - on CCL it is 12-14, then 15-17. Now the 12-14 still have activities til 1 am.

 

Personally, I don't really have a problem with that though, because in my eyes, the kids are not really "out." If I am doing my job as a parent, I am going to know where my kid is - disco, teen room etc, and can check on them with less than 5 minutes of effort. It's not like they are miles away, having to rely on a young driver, to get them out of some strip of bars and safely home.

 

I guess I see this as an opportunity for you to flex your parental muscle (which you obviously have) and set some guidelines for what you, as the parent, think is appropriate. If you want her in the room by 10, set that rule. She may not like it, but oh well.

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you know your child and I don't give out unsolicited parenting advice but here is eithera gentle suggestion-

 

before setting hard and fast rules now prior to the trip, get the "lay of the land' first, meet the teen club staff, go over the capers and your planned excursions, the sea days, and then decide on the schedule you want her to adhere to. a pj party or teen disco dance might be OK if the next day is a seaday, not if you have an early excursion. if you meet the group and there are a disproportionate number of older teen boys then you might be more restrictive, or she may opt out of activities on her own if she doesn't feel comfortable

 

my oldest was 13 on our cruise last summer and she ended up not liking the circle c crowd and hung out with either me or one friend she met most of the time anyway

 

THe age groups on carnival are a little better- but even my 11 yo twins had some late nights- once til after 3am

 

We did late seating so by the time we out finished with dinner it was 10p- I didn't expect the kids to go straight to bed after dinner so they joined their groups if they wanted to, or hung out with us if there was a show.

 

Have a wonderful cruise- your daughter is lucky to vacation with mom:)

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DD11 likes the late night parties. It's certainly not something that she would do at home. On Carnival, the party goes until 2 a.m. The counselors then walk the kids back to their staterooms. RCCL has something similar, I think until 1 a.m., but they don't accompany the kids back. I didn't let her stay out so late on that one. Either her older brother or I walked her back.

 

I view it as a treat. I let her do it once per cruise. She's safer with the kids club than I am in the casino or elsewhere.

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you know your child and I don't give out unsolicited parenting advice but here is eithera gentle suggestion-

 

before setting hard and fast rules now prior to the trip, get the "lay of the land' first, meet the teen club staff, go over the capers and your planned excursions, the sea days, and then decide on the schedule you want her to adhere to. a pj party or teen disco dance might be OK if the next day is a seaday, not if you have an early excursion. if you meet the group and there are a disproportionate number of older teen boys then you might be more restrictive, or she may opt out of activities on her own if she doesn't feel comfortable

 

my oldest was 13 on our cruise last summer and she ended up not liking the circle c crowd and hung out with either me or one friend she met most of the time anyway

 

THe age groups on carnival are a little better- but even my 11 yo twins had some late nights- once til after 3am

 

We did late seating so by the time we out finished with dinner it was 10p- I didn't expect the kids to go straight to bed after dinner so they joined their groups if they wanted to, or hung out with us if there was a show.

 

Have a wonderful cruise- your daughter is lucky to vacation with mom:)

 

ELEVEN year olds,, out till 3 am.. you are kidding??

 

Well, I guess I will take the suggestions re: waiting till we are on the ship and looking at the scheduled activities, and adjust a reasonable curfew for some activities,, , but ,, no way, under any circumstances, will that involve 3 am.

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ELEVEN year olds,, out till 3 am.. you are kidding??

 

Well, I guess I will take the suggestions re: waiting till we are on the ship and looking at the scheduled activities, and adjust a reasonable curfew for some activities,, , but ,, no way, under any circumstances, will that involve 3 am.

 

 

No, I don't think the poster is kidding. The 9-11's are in a room together and it is kinda like a slumber party - with plenty of counselors present. While my son has never done it, I do know that they hang out, dance, play games etc. They are by no means wandering the ship at all hourse, if that is your thought.

 

Just curious, is it the fact that it is "3 am" that bothers you or are you thinking that they are out running around unsupervised?

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No, I don't think the poster is kidding. The 9-11's are in a room together and it is kinda like a slumber party - with plenty of counselors present. While my son has never done it, I do know that they hang out, dance, play games etc. They are by no means wandering the ship at all hourse, if that is your thought.

 

Just curious, is it the fact that it is "3 am" that bothers you or are you thinking that they are out running around unsupervised?

 

It didn't sound like a slumber party,, it sounded like they returned to cabin at 3 am?? And if you can't see the problem with that.. well, theres no going there.

 

I also like my kids to enjoy the ports,, we get off the ship every time,, I think(like anytime after 12) late nights would make for grumpy kids. I guess everyones elses kids function differently . I also would not be comfortable with my 13 yr old walking back to cabin late at night alone,, she has no sister or brother along to accompany her, and I do not recall teens being accompanied by staff anywhere on the Princess cruise we took. In fact, by age 11 apparently kids can sign themselves out and wander off. So you could THINK your child is in a supervised activity ,, but they may not be.

 

Of course NO ONE admits their kid would ever do that,, I mean, those wandering bands of kids some people complain about late at night,, well , they never belong to anyone on these boards,, right.LOL

 

Different parenting styles. I watched this show on tv. and I know it does NOT represent how everyone parents, but it was horrifiying to me,, some Housewife of California show,, where parents were buying deluxe cars for 16 yr olds, paying for 18 yr old girls trips to South Beach,, and even a 22 yr old who lived at home, partied late a night, didn't work or go to school. The sad part is,, these parents believed they were parenting just fine,, I saw alot of spoiled brats.

 

I guess we are alot more conservative.

 

Apparently we are the minority.

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Your kids, your rules -- if someone is coming from the west, a 3 am curfew is more like midnight to them. Some people will be fine with the time, and if you're not, no problem. Just go get her. Based on my own personal experience (me, not my kids);), on our upcoming cruise my kids will be in the cabin (verified), or in a teen program, and absolutely not "hanging out" somewhere on the ship with some kids they just met. Out of curiosity isn't she around older boys at school?

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Your kids, your rules -- if someone is coming from the west, a 3 am curfew is more like midnight to them. Some people will be fine with the time, and if you're not, no problem. Just go get her. Based on my own personal experience (me, not my kids);), on our upcoming cruise my kids will be in the cabin (verified), or in a teen program, and absolutely not "hanging out" somewhere on the ship with some kids they just met. Out of curiosity isn't she around older boys at school?

 

No,, she is at middle school, grade 8. She is the oldest grade. School is alot different then clubs though,, I mean,, theres NO school activities or programs that would mix grade 8 and 12 and take place late at night,, so not comparable.

I am pretty sure band class is fine though,, ( mixed ages there, LOL )

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Hi!

 

We cruised last year with my two boys ages 10 and 8, and yup they did the "Late night Party" until 1 AM. It was one night before a sea day, they both slept in the next day (which meant we could too!) until 9:30.

 

I don't get what the OP is so worried about, my boys also have sleep-overs with their friends at our house occasionally, they stay up late, eat popcorn, watch movies, play games and chat. Exactly the same as they did on the ship. They are surpervised the whole time, they are not allowed to sign themselves out after 10 PM (at least on Carnival) and the counsellor did walk them back to the room, as I said Good Night to her when I answered the door.

 

We also had them up late on a couple other nights when we had the late dinner seating, went to the show, had a piece of Pizza, sat up on the deck under the stars talking about what a great day we had. Time flew by and we didn't get to bed until 1:30. Family memories we treasure!

 

The kids program is designed to support as many of the different families as possible. Some families get up early and go to bed early, some stay up late occasionally, some always stay up late. Each to their own, but I certainly wouldn't think of it as a bad thing...it makes good business sense to have it open late if there are families that use it.

 

I don't appreciate the OP's tone, there seems to be an comparision between parents who's kids stay up late and "bad" parenting.

 

Danielle

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Yep one night they were with the camp carnival staff til 3am- special party we paid extra $ for- and the staff individually returned each child to their cabin-next day was a sea day but my kids were up eating breakfast by 9am. It was very supervised- we checked on them a few times to see if they were tired- crafts, games etc- kid stuff- not acting like mini adult partiers.

 

We are pretty conservative too and my kids are are very involved in church and have done missions trips and we have done volunteer vacations. Again, I don't get into parenting styles or advice, and I definitely respect concerned parents who care enough to stay involved and make the tough unpopular decisions:) So far so good with my kids- they actually vomit if they don't get straight A's- actually only happened once but she did get sick just thinking about having to show me a B. I get criticized for being so tough on them with grades and not rewarding for doing well in school and not paying them for chores. Too bad- that's how I choose to parent- and I commend you for keeping to your values.

 

Last year was our first cruise- we always did all inclusives where we liked the schedule better than the cruise schedule. We took late afternoon naps, ate supper as a family at 8 or 9 and enjoyed the evening's show or dance band til midnight.

 

BUT 10 months out of the year my kids are up at 6am to catch their bus at 6:45, so no harm is done with a temporary vacation schedule.

 

Our kids go to a performing arts school and the age range is from 6th grade to 12th so I guess the age difference doesn't strike any huge alarm bells for me.

 

I don't blame you for not wanting her to wander around on her own- it is a floating city. maybe have cell phones so she can let you know when she wants to leave the teen club, maybe the ship has pager for parents, or have set times when you will go check on her.

 

Good luck

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It didn't sound like a slumber party,, it sounded like they returned to cabin at 3 am?? And if you can't see the problem with that.. well, theres no going there.

 

I also like my kids to enjoy the ports,, we get off the ship every time,, I think(like anytime after 12) late nights would make for grumpy kids. I guess everyones elses kids function differently . I also would not be comfortable with my 13 yr old walking back to cabin late at night alone,, she has no sister or brother along to accompany her, and I do not recall teens being accompanied by staff anywhere on the Princess cruise we took. In fact, by age 11 apparently kids can sign themselves out and wander off. So you could THINK your child is in a supervised activity ,, but they may not be.

 

Of course NO ONE admits their kid would ever do that,, I mean, those wandering bands of kids some people complain about late at night,, well , they never belong to anyone on these boards,, right.LOL

 

Different parenting styles. I watched this show on tv. and I know it does NOT represent how everyone parents, but it was horrifiying to me,, some Housewife of California show,, where parents were buying deluxe cars for 16 yr olds, paying for 18 yr old girls trips to South Beach,, and even a 22 yr old who lived at home, partied late a night, didn't work or go to school. The sad part is,, these parents believed they were parenting just fine,, I saw alot of spoiled brats.

 

I guess we are alot more conservative.

 

Apparently we are the minority.

 

You misunderstood my post - I was the one that posted early on that you were the parent and you set the rules. I have no issue with you telling your kid that she must be back by 10 - I totally approve of that. We also do a lot of early shore excursions, and thus, I have always asked my son to be back in the room by 10; he usually beats me there.

 

I set very firm guidelines for my kids, and I expect them to hold to them. I will check up on my oldest - since he has the freedom - and he knows the consequences for breaking a rule or acting badly - confinement in the room for the next day, and loss of privileges thereafter. He has never broken the rules, and is always where he tells me he will be. In fact, I have found that the little bit of freedom he is allowed (to travel between meals with us to camp and to ice cream and then the room) has been a great parenting experience; he gets to flex his "independence muscles" in an easily controled and supervised way. I have the benefit of having a night owl mother who travels with us, so if I wanted to fall asleep, she would be more than happy to keep tabs on my son.

 

The reason I posted again was it just seemed to me that you did not really have any experience with the whole "late night" thing on the ship and were bothered by the 3 am time itself, which is why I asked the question. It seemed to me that you pictured the kids just wandering the ship at 2 or 3 in the morning - that is not the case. If you don't give your 9-11 sign in/out privileges, for example, they can be at the party, and can't leave until a counselor brings them to you. To me, it is analagous to a slumber party -they are in a supervised group having a rare treat to have some fun late night. If they can sleep in the next day, I am fine with that.

 

This year, my son will be with the 12-14 yo - and there is no such thing as sign in/out; they are free to move about the ship as they wish. Thus, it will be my job as his parent to set his boundaries and make sure he sticks to them.

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I mean,, theres NO school activities or programs that would mix grade 8 and 12 and take place late at night,, so not comparable.

 

My son's school starts highschool in 8th grade - so yes, he will be mixed everyday with 18 year old seniors in high school, in everything from band class to dances.

 

So in my world, it is comparable. But then again, as I posted before, I like CCL because they have a 12-14 group and a 15-17 group. But that too is a double edge sword - what if your kid is 14 and 2 months and they are traveling with their friend who just turned 15 - the 14 year old generally can't go up, so then you have to ask the 15 to go down. This issue does not have easy solutions.

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It didn't sound like a slumber party,, it sounded like they returned to cabin at 3 am?? And if you can't see the problem with that.. well, theres no going there.

 

 

 

I guess I don't understand. The program is available, but there is no requirement to leave a child until the very end. If I think 11:00 is too late for my child to be out, I don't expect that the entire kids club should be shut down at that time. As a previous poster suggested, kids on a ship are not only from your specific time zone - they could be from far and wide and be on completely different schedules, or their parents might be letting them have some fun on vacation where they know they're safe. You are allowed to take your child out at whatever time you think is appropriate. I think it would be unreasonable for me to expect that everyone parent the exact way I do - no matter how superior I think I am.

 

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Mia

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I don't appreciate the OP's tone, there seems to be an comparision between parents who's kids stay up late and "bad" parenting.

 

I agree. I have been impressed over and over again by the intelligence, insights and creative solutions that parents on this board share. Maybe the OP should search out the "contract" one of the parents posted that she has her kids sign before every cruise. You will see that just because a parent may choose to allow their children some extra freedom while on board they are not necessarily abandoning their parenting responsibilities as you imply in your post. Perhaps, just perhaps, there can be a creative solution that allows the kids some freedom while ensuring that they are safe. Condemning parents who take a different approach than you is really unreasonable...

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I also like my kids to enjoy the ports,, we get off the ship every time,, I think(like anytime after 12) late nights would make for grumpy kids. I guess everyones elses kids function differently . I also would not be comfortable with my 13 yr old walking back to cabin late at night alone,, she has no sister or brother along to accompany her, and I do not recall teens being accompanied by staff anywhere on the Princess cruise we took.

 

I agree, to a point. I like my kids to be awake early and fully functioning in the ports. ;) So that's why as a parent its your choice to set your own curfew. Princess doesn't say that your daughter needs to stay there till 1am. And if your family is like mine, then you would have some common sense safety rules in place like "No walking the halls alone" -- so my daughter wouldn't be walking back at 1am to meet me. I would be walking up to meet her at the designated time in a designated meeting spot (usually at the door at the club)

 

And it wouldn't be at 1am. But that's for me to decide. And if I decide that 1am is too late for us, then I don't think less of other parents who allow their kids to stay out till 3am. :)

 

What works for my fam doesn't work for everyone. :D

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Hi!

 

We cruised last year with my two boys ages 10 and 8, and yup they did the "Late night Party" until 1 AM. It was one night before a sea day, they both slept in the next day (which meant we could too!) until 9:30.

 

I don't get what the OP is so worried about, my boys also have sleep-overs with their friends at our house occasionally, they stay up late, eat popcorn, watch movies, play games and chat. Exactly the same as they did on the ship. They are surpervised the whole time, they are not allowed to sign themselves out after 10 PM (at least on Carnival) and the counsellor did walk them back to the room, as I said Good Night to her when I answered the door.

 

We also had them up late on a couple other nights when we had the late dinner seating, went to the show, had a piece of Pizza, sat up on the deck under the stars talking about what a great day we had. Time flew by and we didn't get to bed until 1:30. Family memories we treasure!

 

The kids program is designed to support as many of the different families as possible. Some families get up early and go to bed early, some stay up late occasionally, some always stay up late. Each to their own, but I certainly wouldn't think of it as a bad thing...it makes good business sense to have it open late if there are families that use it.

 

I don't appreciate the OP's tone, there seems to be an comparision between parents who's kids stay up late and "bad" parenting.

 

Danielle

 

Danielle, perhaps if you reread my post you will see how your situation is NOT the same. Kids over 11 ARE allowed to sign themselves in and out. Princess does not offer to walk the younger ones back to cabins,, you come and get them( if under 11) . My dd would be fine if she was young and I knew they stayed in the kids club and signed in ,, like your little boys. Do you have a 13 yr old girl who may be hanging out with 17 yr kids to think about?? No,, I thought not.

 

Reread my post,, I am concerned about the TEEN situation ,, not the little kid situation.

My dd was in the kids club two years ago ,, we had no issues.

 

I also think your comparing sleep overs is not comparable. My kids have all had sleep overs,, and been to sleep overs. Sleep overs are supervised by parents.. and she only slept over at homes where we knew and trusted the parents judgements. We have had little girls over here too,, eating popcorn and watching videos till very late.. last month my dd and her friend said they wanted to stay up all night,, I said fine, as long as they were quiet and stayed in her room,, they fell asleep around 5 they said. This was in our home,, not at on a floating hotel with thousands of strangers around. Big difference. If you don't see the difference,, well,. frankly., I don't like your tone either!

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I am fine with the late night programs. It is available to those that want it. On Royal, the ages are more seperated. I like for my son to have a late night while on vacation, but if others chose not to, they can pick up their childern earlier. Either is fine. I like the flexibility that it offers. As the parent, we must make the right decisions for our childeren--but that does not mean it is the right decision for others.

 

Laura

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Yep one night they were with the camp carnival staff til 3am- special party we paid extra $ for- and the staff individually returned each child to their cabin-next day was a sea day but my kids were up eating breakfast by 9am. It was very supervised- we checked on them a few times to see if they were tired- crafts, games etc- kid stuff- not acting like mini adult partiers.

 

We are pretty conservative too and my kids are are very involved in church and have done missions trips and we have done volunteer vacations. Again, I don't get into parenting styles or advice, and I definitely respect concerned parents who care enough to stay involved and make the tough unpopular decisions:) So far so good with my kids- they actually vomit if they don't get straight A's- actually only happened once but she did get sick just thinking about having to show me a B. I get criticized for being so tough on them with grades and not rewarding for doing well in school and not paying them for chores. Too bad- that's how I choose to parent- and I commend you for keeping to your values.

 

Last year was our first cruise- we always did all inclusives where we liked the schedule better than the cruise schedule. We took late afternoon naps, ate supper as a family at 8 or 9 and enjoyed the evening's show or dance band til midnight.

 

BUT 10 months out of the year my kids are up at 6am to catch their bus at 6:45, so no harm is done with a temporary vacation schedule.

 

Our kids go to a performing arts school and the age range is from 6th grade to 12th so I guess the age difference doesn't strike any huge alarm bells for me.

 

I don't blame you for not wanting her to wander around on her own- it is a floating city. maybe have cell phones so she can let you know when she wants to leave the teen club, maybe the ship has pager for parents, or have set times when you will go check on her.

 

Good luck

 

I can see you understand my issue a bit better then some.. and I do agree allowances can and should be made on vacations.. We gave our teen boys a 12 am curfew two years ago( 14 and 16yr old) and they thought that was great,, it was way later then home. But,, they were always together,, and my dd will be alone, so I do have some concerns that I didn't have with them.

 

I am very sure the KIDS clubs are well supervised.. ,my dd did attend it ,, but we always signed her out by 10 pm. I am however still really am interested in how parents of TEENS handled it. Princess teens are not chaperoned back to cabins,, and I do not want to wait up till one am to go get her,, so I know I will have to impose an eariler curfew. I guess I wish they ended the activities for the YOUNGER teens ( 12-15) a bit earlier, the older ones its not such a big deal,, I agree. She is only in grade 8.

 

anyways,, thanks for trying to understand my points,, I guess I was being a bit judgemental as I really do not see how anyone thinks 1 am is cool for a 13 yr old girl to be ALONE wandering back to her cabin, or the fact that the teen club is not accountable for kids location, since they can sign out at any time,, they don't keep track of kids. If my dd disappeared,, how long before they noticed??( and please,,parents of younger kids,, remember she is free to come and go as she likes, she is not signed in)

 

BTW she is a great kid, straight A's too( except for a B in PE,, but we never count that,, LOL shes inherited mommys two left feet) but she is very trusting,, and could likely be talked into something as she want to be friendly,,,( we are working on that, standing tough stuff)

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I guess I don't understand. The program is available' date=' but there is no requirement to leave a child until the very end. If I think 11:00 is too late for my child to be out, I don't expect that the entire kids club should be shut down at that time. As a previous poster suggested, kids on a ship are not only from your specific time zone - they could be from far and wide and be on completely different schedules, or their parents might be letting them have some fun on vacation where they know they're safe. You are allowed to take your child out at whatever time you think is appropriate. I think it would be unreasonable for me to expect that everyone parent the exact way I do - no matter how superior I think I am.

 

Best,

Mia[/quote']

 

Mia,, you only KNOW they are safe it they are signed in and out by you. Otherwise you do NOT know that, you are assuming.

 

We have all heard of kids wandering around late at night in groups,,, not supervised. No one thinks its their child though,., cause they are all so "superior" I guess. I am INFERIOR ,, I know kids can and do get into trouble,, I have older kids ,, and teens can and do screw up occaisonally. Supervision and KNOWING where your teen is ,, is a bit of work.. and some parents do not do it,, since they are happy kids are not bugging them.

 

 

Mia, do you know if the teens stay in the club room for the evening activities? Did your teen ? I am sure I have seen them doing stuff around the ship,, so if they start an activity like a scavenger hunt before her curfew.. but it ends after,, it may be difficult to find her, and I would feel bad tracking her down right in the middle of an activity. I will have to really pay attention to acitivity timings, are staff very good at scheduling ends and starts.. does anyone know much about the TEEN clubs at all. ?

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I agree. I have been impressed over and over again by the intelligence, insights and creative solutions that parents on this board share. Maybe the OP should search out the "contract" one of the parents posted that she has her kids sign before every cruise. You will see that just because a parent may choose to allow their children some extra freedom while on board they are not necessarily abandoning their parenting responsibilities as you imply in your post. Perhaps, just perhaps, there can be a creative solution that allows the kids some freedom while ensuring that they are safe. Condemning parents who take a different approach than you is really unreasonable...

 

Totally agree some parents are great. Not all. And it has nothing to do with how late ones child stays up.

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To me it is a non-issue. My DD is 13 too - but I can guarantee that by 10 pm she is with me or DH (DS as well and he is 15). Number one rules on the cruise ships for my kids are our rules - doesn't matter to me how late the teen clubs are open. Never been an issue though since our kids prefer not going to the kids club and spend time going to activities with us or hanging out together. It is a family vacation after all.

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Mia,, you only KNOW they are safe it they are signed in and out by you. Otherwise you do NOT know that, you are assuming.

 

 

You are absolutely correct. If you can't trust your 13 year old to not sign herself out when told that is the rule, I can completely understand your concern - I also would worry about her. I just don't understand how the program closing at the time you deem appropriate solves that problem.

Maybe if you tell her you'll be a) making calls to Remix to make sure she's there and b) doing surprise checks, she'll know she can't get away with breaking the rule, and then you can pick her up at the set time.

 

I hope you figure out a way to not have to worry.

 

Best,

Mia

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