TEXASMUNK Posted May 15, 2010 #1 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Not sure about the rules on this, so not posting the story....over on the Welcome, news side of AOL there is another story about the evil cruise industry..... Friends of the Earth are talking about how the cruise industry is destroying the oceans with pollution. Never mind that the cruise industry has taken steps to offer environmentally protective steps when it comes to waste. Someone may now if the article can be posted here, otherwise, you can stop by AOL click on welcome and flip through the current news stories to read it... I have no idea but I get the funny feeling that all the cruise ships in the world probably total around 1% of the ships on the sea and that every modern day ship is somewhere around 99.9% more environmentally friendly than any other ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madforcruising Posted May 15, 2010 #2 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Not sure about the rules on this, so not posting the story....over on the Welcome, news side of AOL there is another story about the evil cruise industry.....Friends of the Earth are talking about how the cruise industry is destroying the oceans with pollution. Never mind that the cruise industry has taken steps to offer environmentally protective steps when it comes to waste. Someone may now if the article can be posted here, otherwise, you can stop by AOL click on welcome and flip through the current news stories to read it... I have no idea but I get the funny feeling that all the cruise ships in the world probably total around 1% of the ships on the sea and that every modern day ship is somewhere around 99.9% more environmentally friendly than any other ship. I doubt it´s OK to copy and paste the story, but I´d think posting the link might be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolimont Posted May 15, 2010 #3 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I cruise and I intend to continue to do so. But I admit that it's not the most environmentally friendly activity. Those ships burn more fuel in a minute than I'll probably burn for the rest of my life put together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXASMUNK Posted May 15, 2010 Author #4 Share Posted May 15, 2010 hope this worked and CC is ok with posting it. http://news.travel.aol.com/2010/05/05/are-cruises-ruining-the-world/?ncid=AOLCOMMtravdynlprim0964&icid=main|htmlws-main-w|dl4|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.travel.aol.com%2F2010%2F05%2F05%2Fare-cruises-ruining-the-world%2F%3Fncid%3DAOLCOMMtravdynlprim0964 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtchg Posted May 15, 2010 #5 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Check out this link: http://www.cruiselawnews.com/articles/pollution-1/ It's a website that is innocuously entitled "Cruise Law News", but it's a site dedicated to legally sinking the cruiselines (pun intended). It also references the article the OP mentioned. Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluby10000 Posted May 15, 2010 #6 Share Posted May 15, 2010 It is sad to see this. Cruise lines are stakeholders in keeping the environment in tact. I would not say this about the oil companies lately. Cruiselines want to protect the environment, since this is what people want to go see when on vacation. The major shipping industry for cars, etc. are just passing through. If we all really looked at our personal impact it would be very sad since most of the items we use around the house get here from shipping. I think we all need to be aware and take measures to lower our impact, but the industrial impact is much larger. I am engaged in this area for my work, so am aware of the issues. We need so save special places, but targeting the very small slice caused by the cruise industry is not right. BTW; by taking people to remote areas to see the environment means we see first hand what we need to preserve for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtchg Posted May 15, 2010 #7 Share Posted May 15, 2010 This site http://www.cruiselawnews.com/articles/pollution-1/ is run by a litigation lawyer who makes his living on sueing the cruise industry..go figure... Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady_cruiser Posted May 15, 2010 #8 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Considering what BP has done for our enviroment, especially our recent oil rig explosion for my Louisiana Coast, I think that the Friends of the Earth is picking on the wrong group. Of course this is just "my" opinion. And this isn't BP's first "accident" with our enviroment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXASMUNK Posted May 15, 2010 Author #9 Share Posted May 15, 2010 We would not need to drill offshore if we were permitted to drill onshore....but that is a totally different story, and does not fit here... The way I see it, these groups have it all figured out. Bambi is good, all of mankind is evil...Simple. If you follow their logic, if we all killed ourselves, the earth would be better off... When did we turn the asylum over to the inmates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHADEN Posted May 15, 2010 #10 Share Posted May 15, 2010 This site http://www.cruiselawnews.com/articles/pollution-1/ is run by a litigation lawyer who makes his living on sueing the cruise industry..go figure...Mitch This first article talks about all the "Blackwater" (human sewage) and how horrible it is. Why doesn't someone ask the author about the BILLIONS & BILLIONS of fish in the ocean doing the same thing all day/every day!!?? ....................The way I see it, these groups have it all figured out. Bambi is good, all of mankind is evil...Simple. If you follow their logic, if we all killed ourselves, the earth would be better off... When did we turn the asylum over to the inmates? I totally agree - - I wish someone would ask these whacos, "If your side of the issue is so right, then why do you have to LIE about it to make your point?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted May 15, 2010 #11 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I cruise and I intend to continue to do so. But I admit that it's not the most environmentally friendly activity. Those ships burn more fuel in a minute than I'll probably burn for the rest of my life put together! :confused: But all the cruise ships in the world do not burn more than all of the other ships and boats plying the waters...what's your point. The rational is don't use any vehicle using oil as its energy source? I'd like to see less dependency on it, but not gonna happen in the near future. And you're not gonna give up your gas guzzler just as I am not...not until I can afford something that is really efficient other than gasoline. The best I can do is my Toyota Yaris-41 mpg on the highway...yes that is correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncosFan2010 Posted May 15, 2010 #12 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Not sure about the rules on this, so not posting the story....over on the Welcome, news side of AOL there is another story about the evil cruise industry.....Friends of the Earth are talking about how the cruise industry is destroying the oceans with pollution. Never mind that the cruise industry has taken steps to offer environmentally protective steps when it comes to waste. Someone may now if the article can be posted here, otherwise, you can stop by AOL click on welcome and flip through the current news stories to read it... I have no idea but I get the funny feeling that all the cruise ships in the world probably total around 1% of the ships on the sea and that every modern day ship is somewhere around 99.9% more environmentally friendly than any other ship. I saw that this morning... what a bunch of lies and half-truths!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionicman97 Posted May 15, 2010 #13 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Considering what BP has done for our enviroment, especially our recent oil rig explosion for my Louisiana Coast, I think that the Friends of the Earth is picking on the wrong group. Of course this is just "my" opinion. And this isn't BP's first "accident" with our enviroment. Yeah. The way its going, this one incident will probably do more damage to the environment than all the cruise ships have done since they started sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted May 15, 2010 #14 Share Posted May 15, 2010 This isn't the first time that this group has raised it's ugly heads about the cruise industry. They are just trying to make a name for themselves. Best to ignore them. They aren't playing with a full deck of cards.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingoncruiser Posted May 15, 2010 #15 Share Posted May 15, 2010 There are those who will never be happy until we all walk to work, live in grass huts and eat plants only. "Hey Sanka mon, what cha smokin?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXASMUNK Posted May 15, 2010 Author #16 Share Posted May 15, 2010 LOL! Except if that happens yet another wacko group will form and tell you that "plants have feelings too" "Starve you human being pig! Leave the earth to the cockroaches and worms!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncosFan2010 Posted May 15, 2010 #17 Share Posted May 15, 2010 There are those who will never be happy until we all walk to work, live in grass huts and eat plants only. "Hey Sanka mon, what cha smokin?" Even then it won't be enough... I would love to see how much carbon was release into the atmosphere when the volcano in Iceland erupted. My guess is that it release more than all of our cars have since the 1960's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXASMUNK Posted May 15, 2010 Author #18 Share Posted May 15, 2010 [Your statement would be correct if the world had not been graced by the Yugo... It polluted our roads, our memories and the air... LOL All those eco folks, relax I am having a lighthearted moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUZBUDS Posted May 15, 2010 #19 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I am canceling my upcoming cruises -- I am nothing if not green :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waldos Posted May 15, 2010 #20 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Sorry but what I find interesting in this discussion is that you are all accusing the website and article of lies and half truths yet none of you seem to have any hard facts either. You guess, you have a gut feeling, you imagine, you think. It would make a significantly better argument if you could back your feelings up with knowledge. For example- what percentage of ships floating about are cruise ships? That figure must be known. And is human waste more damaging to the oceans than the fish's waste? (On this one I suspect that the answer is yes since the ocean evolved with the fish, not with human waste). Knowledge is golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXASMUNK Posted May 15, 2010 Author #21 Share Posted May 15, 2010 1. If you had any information, what so ever ragarding water treatment on today's cruise ships, you would not be rightously defending an indefensible position. 2. Go read the dribble....It is so slanted as to imply that it goes from your stateroom to the ocean floor...NOT!!!! 3. Since you blindly have become the defense attroney for the tripe, do the research and return and enlighten us....please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUZBUDS Posted May 15, 2010 #22 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I suspect a lot of us don't really care -- were do you suppose human waste went for most of man's history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waldos Posted May 15, 2010 #23 Share Posted May 15, 2010 1. If you had any information, what so ever ragarding water treatment on today's cruise ships, you would not be rightously defending an indefensible position.2. Go read the dribble....It is so slanted as to imply that it goes from your stateroom to the ocean floor...NOT!!!! 3. Since you blindly have become the defense attroney for the tripe, do the research and return and enlighten us....please 1) I am not saying anything about water treatment on today's cruise ships, just suggesting that the poster who referred to fish waste was probably incorrect. 3) I am not defending anyone. You have no idea how I feel about this topic other than feeling that facts are helpful in refuting things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXASMUNK Posted May 15, 2010 Author #24 Share Posted May 15, 2010 One interet point was how many....Don't hav ea count on how many, but just found out there are over 4,200 tanker ships plying the waves....That is alot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waldos Posted May 16, 2010 #25 Share Posted May 16, 2010 One interet point was how many....Don't hav ea count on how many, but just found out there are over 4,200 tanker ships plying the waves....That is alot! And that is just oil tankers. Wonder how many cargo ships there are? There are about 280 Cruise ships. Getting on close to 3% looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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