hannibal54 Posted December 6, 2010 #1 Share Posted December 6, 2010 12-5-2010 the ship picked up 6 people adrift in a make shift raft with a sail. We were coming back from a sea day due to rough seas caused us to miss Coco Cay. More later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal54 Posted December 6, 2010 Author #2 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Just announced, all 6 are fine and in Coast Guard hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal54 Posted December 6, 2010 Author #3 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Just told that they were Cubans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uksimonusa Posted December 6, 2010 #4 Share Posted December 6, 2010 http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20101206/BREAKINGNEWS/101206003/Cruise-ship-returns-to-Port-after-rescue-at-sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted December 6, 2010 #5 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Was just on the local news here. The Monarch came in quite late, after 7 am versus the regular 5:30 am, so I am assuming due to processing the raft people. Probably going to be some people missing their flights. :eek: News said the Coast Guard was to process and send them back to Cuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal54 Posted December 6, 2010 Author #6 Share Posted December 6, 2010 5 men and a woman. The womans husband didn't make it, they dumped his body in the ocean. They were 15 days at sea, the last 8 without food the last 4 without water. These people are very lucky we came along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelion Posted December 6, 2010 #7 Share Posted December 6, 2010 5 men and a woman. The womans husband didn't make it, they dumped his body in the ocean. They were 15 days at sea, the last 8 without food the last 4 without water. These people are very lucky we came along. Lucky is relative. Yes, they are alive, but they will now be returned to Cuba and most likely tried as deserters...I'm not sure I would feel lucky. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBumb Posted December 6, 2010 #8 Share Posted December 6, 2010 good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted December 6, 2010 #9 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Lucky is relative. Yes, they are alive, but they will now be returned to Cuba and most likely tried as deserters...I'm not sure I would feel lucky. :( That doesn't happen. They will be returned to Cuba but, after processing, will be released. It is very common for USCG to encounter the same migrants over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Askin Posted December 6, 2010 #10 Share Posted December 6, 2010 5 men and a woman. The womans husband didn't make it, they dumped his body in the ocean. They were 15 days at sea, the last 8 without food the last 4 without water. These people are very lucky we came along. Thanks for your reports Hannibal. We're working on a write-up of the rescue. Is there anything else you can say at this point? Curious if you snapped a photograph. Thanks, Dan Askin Associate Editor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJ Posted December 6, 2010 #11 Share Posted December 6, 2010 That doesn't happen. They will be returned to Cuba but, after processing, will be released. It is very common for USCG to encounter the same migrants over and over. Will thee ones that went to the Hospital be returned to Cuba? I thought that a dry foot means they can stay in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted December 6, 2010 #12 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Thanks for your reports Hannibal. We're working on a write-up of the rescue. Is there anything else you can say at this point? Curious if you snapped a photograph. Dan, I can put you in contact with someone who has more info. If you would like it, send me an e-mail. It's my user name at AOL (dot) com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted December 6, 2010 #13 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Will thee ones that went to the Hospital be returned to Cuba? I thought that a dry foot means they can stay in the US. Anyone who makes dry foot stays, so the ones brought to shore will stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingoncruiser Posted December 6, 2010 #14 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Nice story. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted December 6, 2010 #15 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Will thee ones that went to the Hospital be returned to Cuba? I thought that a dry foot means they can stay in the US. That "dry foot" has to be on dry US soil. Since they never landed and were still at sea, that is why the Coast Guard can send them back when they pick them up on their cutters also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelion Posted December 6, 2010 #16 Share Posted December 6, 2010 That doesn't happen. They will be returned to Cuba but, after processing, will be released. It is very common for USCG to encounter the same migrants over and over. It does happen, sadly. My ex fiancée had family tried as deserters in Cuba. No one hears from them anymore :( Will thee ones that went to the Hospital be returned to Cuba? I thought that a dry foot means they can stay in the US. Dry foot means they arrived on dry land before the USCG found them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted December 6, 2010 #17 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Dry foot means they arrived on dry land before the USCG found them. USCG transported a few to shore in this case for medical reasons. Those 3 are now "dry foot" and will stay. As for the desserter trials, that was either a while ago or there were other circumstances. It is not common for them to do that anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelion Posted December 6, 2010 #18 Share Posted December 6, 2010 USCG transported a few to shore in this case for medical reasons. Those 3 are now "dry foot" and will stay. As for the desserter trials, that was either a while ago or there were other circumstances. It is not common for them to do that anymore. Three years ago. Other circumstances? Yeah...they tried to leave an oppressive regime. Even those transported to hospitals will most likely be sent back - we saw it all the time. They would be stabilized, processed and sent back to Cuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ander026 Posted December 6, 2010 #19 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Here is a link to WFTV web site that has the story. For those the write the CC News maybee this will help http://www.wftv.com/news/26028978/detail.html Also the Monarch typically arrives at 7am verses the Freedom at 530am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted December 6, 2010 #20 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Even those transported to hospitals will most likely be sent back - we saw it all the time. They would be stabilized, processed and sent back to Cuba. Sorry, but you are wrong. Cuban migrants who make dry land by any circumstances are considered dry foot and stay.....that includes hospital patients. The U.S. only deports a handful of Cubans annually and those people are felons....not hospital patients. It has been that way ever since Pres. Clinton created this current policy. It is illegal by current law to deport a dry foot Cuban migrant, even from a hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarchal Posted December 6, 2010 #21 Share Posted December 6, 2010 They are not considered to have "dry foot" status unless they made it to shore on their own, so all of these people will be sent home to Cuba. That is where their troubles begin. As recently as last month I heard of the types of things the government does such as levying heavy fines on the family, taking away work permits, rationing food, denying education to children, all sorts of things that make their lives misurable. The US government does not punish these people, their own government does. That's why they want to leave their country. Very few are given asylim in the US since very few bring evidence with them that would convince a judge to give it to them. Many Cubans, and other illigal immigrants, wind up in detention camps for months, even years, trying to be allowed to stay. Many say it's better than the conditions in their country. We have a lot to be thankful for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted December 6, 2010 #22 Share Posted December 6, 2010 They are not considered to have "dry foot" status unless they made it to shore on their own, so all of these people will be sent home to Cuba. This is also not true. Once again, the hospital patients will not be returned to Cuba. For those who don't know...this is my career field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelion Posted December 6, 2010 #23 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Sorry, but you are wrong. Cuban migrants who make dry land by any circumstances are considered dry foot and stay.....that includes hospital patients. The U.S. only deports a handful of Cubans annually and those people are felons....not hospital patients. It has been that way ever since Pres. Clinton created this current policy. It is illegal by current law to deport a dry foot Cuban migrant, even from a hospital. So then...what? My ex fiancées family and his neighbor's family are anomalies? Because MANY of them were picked up at sea, brought to a hospital for treatment, stabilized and then SENT BACK. All in recent years. Hell, Jose's own brother was sent back to Cuba. Thankfully, he made it here by other means but it does happen. Perhaps it is not supposed to, but it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted December 6, 2010 #24 Share Posted December 6, 2010 So then...what? My ex fiancées family and his neighbor's family are anomalies? Because MANY of them were picked up at sea, brought to a hospital for treatment, stabilized and then SENT BACK. All in recent years. Hell, Jose's own brother was sent back to Cuba. Thankfully, he made it here by other means but it does happen. Perhaps it is not supposed to, but it does. How were they taken back to Cuba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelion Posted December 6, 2010 #25 Share Posted December 6, 2010 How were they taken back to Cuba? Do you mean the mode of transportation? I have no idea, it was before I was engaged to Jose and I never thought it was appropriate to ask the details of what was clearly a sensitive issue (especially given the circumstances that some found themselves in upon return :( ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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