Minor children across hall/nearby?

[TrinaLC]

The rules suggest you can only book your under 21 children in an adjacent room.

 

We are looking at a suite that does not have an adjacent room.

 

Will NCL allow them to be booked "nearby"? Like across the hall (cheaper inside room)?

 

The switching beds thing won't work b/c the 2 adults are looking forward to the Cagney perk, and the kids (late teens) will probably sleep through lunch ...

[bakerintn]

Book with one adult in each cabin.

 

When onboard, ask for two key-only cards, one for each cabin.

 

One adult and one teen has to use the key-only card for cabin access but their regular key cards for onboard charges.

[TrinaLC]

Book with one adult in each cabin.

 

When onboard, ask for two key-only cards, one for each cabin.

 

One adult and one teen has to use the key-only card for cabin access but their regular key cards for onboard charges.

 

As I indicated in my original post, both adults need to be in the suite to get the Cagney benefit.

[DMH15]

Do you know anyone over 21 that you could bring along? That's what my parents used to do.

[che5904]

Seriously, I really think this is a non-issue situation (as far as perks go).

 

You are paying for the perks for 2 people and as long as you and whoever the other adult is not growing to 3 or 4. People get ticked when non-suite people try to use suite perks. Since I'm assuming you are paying for the 2 teenagers and yourselves then you have paid for perks for 2 as far as I'm concerned, regardless to their names.

 

Where I see the issue is having the 2 teens alone across the hall. I can only guess at the reasons of NCL with the adult policy but...

Probably liability has a lot to do with the policy and even if you book one adult, one teen in each room to satisfy NCL corporate, it really doesn't sound like you intended to follow the rules anyway "the 2 teens will probably sleep through lunch", so they would obviously not be closely supervised as I think NCL's policy would cover with them being in an adjoining cabin or in yours.

I'm sure these two teens are the most wonderful teens ever put on this earth, but sorry raised a couple of wonderful kids and teens will be teens. In saying that you could get some flack from H.D. if these teens are not being considerate of their side neighbours, because they had a couple of oops teen moments of lack of thinking. JMO

 

As for the perks, talk to the concierge and explain that you have paid for 2 people and those 2 are you and whoever.

[DeWSkog]

It seems to me that what you need is the 2 room suite. A lot of the NCL ships have them. The room in the back is similar to an inside room. That way you get the suite perks for all of you and the kids have their own space. They are my favorite suites. The bathroom is excellent. Check them out.

 

Donna

[toyotaford]

The rules suggest you can only book your under 21 children in an adjacent room.

 

We are looking at a suite that does not have an adjacent room.

 

Will NCL allow them to be booked "nearby"? Like across the hall (cheaper inside room)?

 

The switching beds thing won't work b/c the 2 adults are looking forward to the Cagney perk, and the kids (late teens) will probably sleep through lunch ...

 

 

We were in the OS on POA last summer and had my niece and a friend (both 16) in an interior room down the hall from us. We booked my husband and one 16 yr old in the OS and myself and the other 16 in the interior. My husband and I enjoyed breakfast and lunch at Lazy J ( it is not called Cagney's on POA) on several occasions. When we were on the ship the girls stayed in our room and balcony except to sleep. The butler and maids knew what had done as far as the booking and had no problem with it. The butler even found out what treats they liked and made sure they were waiting for them in our room every afternoon when we returned from shore.

[TrinaLC]

It seems to me that what you need is the 2 room suite. A lot of the NCL ships have them. The room in the back is similar to an inside room. That way you get the suite perks for all of you and the kids have their own space. They are my favorite suites. The bathroom is excellent. Check them out.

 

Donna

 

Unfortunately, the Viking Sun doesn't seem to.

[TrinaLC]

Seriously, I really think this is a non-issue situation (as far as perks go).

 

You are paying for the perks for 2 people and as long as you and whoever the other adult is not growing to 3 or 4. People get ticked when non-suite people try to use suite perks. Since I'm assuming you are paying for the 2 teenagers and yourselves then you have paid for perks for 2 as far as I'm concerned, regardless to their names.

 

Where I see the issue is having the 2 teens alone across the hall. I can only guess at the reasons of NCL with the adult policy but...

Probably liability has a lot to do with the policy and even if you book one adult, one teen in each room to satisfy NCL corporate, it really doesn't sound like you intended to follow the rules anyway "the 2 teens will probably sleep through lunch", so they would obviously not be closely supervised as I think NCL's policy would cover with them being in an adjoining cabin or in yours.

I'm sure these two teens are the most wonderful teens ever put on this earth, but sorry raised a couple of wonderful kids and teens will be teens. In saying that you could get some flack from H.D. if these teens are not being considerate of their side neighbours, because they had a couple of oops teen moments of lack of thinking. JMO

 

As for the perks, talk to the concierge and explain that you have paid for 2 people and those 2 are you and whoever.

 

They will be as well supervised as any 2 teens, just as much as in an adjacent room. One rule is that NO ONE ELSE is allowed in the room.

[sdmike]

I concur with the other posters. The parental supervision requirement will not be waived. Either upgrade to a larger suite if available, or put a parent in each room. Even if separated you adults should get suite amenities with no trouble. Just explain the situation. I would suggest, however, that the parents split up at night to supervise their children. We have 3 kids, and when we cruise as a family we either book a large enough room for all of us, or we book adjoining cabins and leave the door open like one big room.

[sdmike]

They will be as well supervised as any 2 teens, just as much as in an adjacent room.

 

Please explain this logic. I don't understand how this would be possible. I have two teen boys (and a pre-teen daughter), and I would never think of letting my boys stay in a room without supervision. Not because they're bad, but because they're kids and don't always make sound decisions that are considerate of others.

[che5904]

They will be as well supervised as any 2 teens, just as much as in an adjacent room. One rule is that NO ONE ELSE is allowed in the room.

 

I wasn't trying to be rude in any way TrinalC. As I said I'm sure there are a lot of reasons NCL has this in place. And meant no disrespect to these teens. BTW I did not even suggest that there may be anymore kids in the room but your two, what i said was "oops teen moments" meaning those oops I wasn't thinking moments. As I also said I raised kids myself and 95% I count myself pretty lucky for the good kids I had, I had very little issue with them and they've turned into fine upstanding citizens. But I don't care how mature or dependable and responsble a teen is, I'm sorry to say everyone has had at least 5% of their teen's life that they haven't always made sound choices.

 

No adjacent rooms and across the hall are not the same in one respect. If there is noise that one wall between the cabin is not extremely sound proofed at 1, 2 or 3am. You don' t hear anything if they are across the hall. The responsible adult has no way of knowing that the neighbours are being disturb until a phone call comes from the H.D. looking for the adult that is booked in that room to inquire about it. But in saying that I have no idea why NCL has 21 instead of 18 which is adult as far as I'm concerned but I figure that was is probably something to do with legal.

 

You asked for opinions on 2 question #1 was what I gave you above #2 I didn't think was an issue at all, I was pretty sure the concierge would not care whether the actual 2 names booked were the actual 2 names he was escorting to the specialty restaurant. I just gave you my opinion you really don't have to agree with it.

[cherbear4000]

My sister and I would always share a room as teens. My parents would book a balcony and we would be in an inside nearby. I don't know why people are acting the the OP is a bad parent for wanting her teens in another room nearby. They're not little kids. They don't need 24/7 supervision. We usually booked Carnival, which does allow minors to be booked in a room with no adult as long as the parent's room is nearby. You may have to book with 1 adult in each room and then just switch key cards once onboard. I have never stayed in a NCL suite, but I imagine the key cards look different than not suite guests. No one ever pays attention to the name on the card.

[che5904]

My sister and I would always share a room as teens. My parents would book a balcony and we would be in an inside nearby. I don't know why people are acting the the OP is a bad parent for wanting her teens in another room nearby. They're not little kids. They don't need 24/7 supervision. We usually booked Carnival, which does allow minors to be booked in a room with no adult as long as the parent's room is nearby. You may have to book with 1 adult in each room and then just switch key cards once onboard. I have never stayed in a NCL suite, but I imagine the key cards look different than not suite guests. No one ever pays attention to the name on the card.

 

No one said the OP was a bad parent and not sure where you are getting that from. But like others that don't follow certain rules, policies or laws etc. they have a valid excuse or reason why that it doesn't pertain or apply to them. Obviously when you stayed in a cabin on your own on carnival (which apparently allows this) NCL doesn't. I think the big thing here is that NCL says "no that is not to be done", but I have seen numerous times on CC where parents feel that this policy does not apply to them and they will just do the paperwork for NCL corportate and do whatever they wish anyway once onboard. The OP is going to do what they want anyway but that doesn't mean I have to think it is right. I have also been bothered by noisy teens at 1am in hotels where parents do exactly that (and no it wasn't against the rules there either), just inconsiderate.

[phillygirl63]

The OP is talking about late teens. We have sailed twice with our 2 kids -- the first time they were 15 and 12, the second time they were 18 and 15. Both times they stayed in an inside while my DH and I were across the hall in a balcony room. We had absolutely no problems with this situation, because they knew that at the first sign of a problem, we would put it back to how it was booked (one of us in a room with one of the kids). Since they wanted to have a little freedom and did not want to jeopardize it, they behaved very well. The OP can try it. I'm sure the 2 kids will be fine but if they are not, then the sleeping arrangements can just be switched back to the way it was booked.

 

As for the suite perk of being able to have breakfast and lunch in the steakhouse, I don't think there will be a problem as long as the OP does not abuse the privilege by bringing all 4 to the restaurant at the same time.

[che5904]

The OP is talking about late teens. We have sailed twice with our 2 kids -- the first time they were 15 and 12, the second time they were 18 and 15. Both times they stayed in an inside while my DH and I were across the hall in a balcony room. We had absolutely no problems with this situation, because they knew that at the first sign of a problem, we would put it back to how it was booked (one of us in a room with one of the kids). Since they wanted to have a little freedom and did not want to jeopardize it, they behaved very well. The OP can try it. I'm sure the 2 kids will be fine but if they are not, then the sleeping arrangements can just be switched back to the way it was booked.

 

As for the suite perk of being able to have breakfast and lunch in the steakhouse, I don't think there will be a problem as long as the OP does not abuse the privilege by bringing all 4 to the restaurant at the same time.

 

I have a few points to address with this post

#1 Late teens can mean anything over the age of 15

#1 you obviously don’t have problems teaching your children that rules may be broken, if they behave and/or don’t get caught. That you can get around these rules simply by lying to those that make them. (Book one adult and one child per room to satisfy NCL corporate, but not actually physically do that.)

#2 “First sign of a problem”. So if your teens decide one night in the middle of the night to have a teen indiscretion, and be very loud to keep the next cabin passengers awake. The teens will suffer the consequence, but don’t the passengers in the next cabin suffer for your choice as well?

#3 It is wonderful to give your children freedom and trust. As well it is great that you have consequences if they don’t meet the expectations but I really don’t think there is a valid reason to teach them how to manipulate policies or rules set by those in charge (in this case NCL) or that others may suffer in their lessons to be learned.

[phillygirl63]

I don't understand what your problem is with my post and I am sorry that you have issues with it. Perhaps your children are not responsible enough to be trusted to behave themselves when given a little freedom. Mine were happy to not have to share a room with mom or dad and so they behaved themselves perfectly on both cruises.

 

IMO 15 means mid teens since a child becomes a teenager at 13. Therefore, late teens would be those years just prior to the age of 20. I was simply pointing out that the OP's kids were not young teenagers.

 

I was not manipulating the rules or lying to anyone. Nor was I teaching my kids to do so. As a matter of fact, the arrangement of booking one parent in a room with one child and then making the switch after check-in was recommended by NCL cruise professionals. This arrangement has been frequently used by many CC members as I have been reading about it on these boards for many months now.

 

Perhaps before you jump down someone's throat with accusations of bad parenting, you should have more experience and knowledge in what you are condemning them for.

[TrinaLC]

Anyone who can't trust a 18 and 19 year old in a room by themselves without direct adult supervision has fallen down on a parent's primary responsibility, to prepare their kids to separate and become adults.

[che5904]

Anyone who can't trust a 18 and 19 year old in a room by themselves without direct adult supervision has fallen down on a parent's primary responsibility, to prepare their kids to separate and become adults.

 

I totally agree with you on that one, but as I stated earlier as far as I'm concerned these are adults if they are 18 and 19 (late teens do incompass more than this age and you didn't say in your post that they were this age). Therefore I would not be preparing them, but they already made it to adulthood IMO. So my comments on leaving teens alone was based on younger than what I consider an adult. So my not leaving them in a room across the hall at that age would have nothing to do with trust but totally to do with my agreement when I signed up for my cruise. Nor at that age would I probably have them in my room but in a room connecting (as per NCL's policy) .

 

As much as I disagree with NCL's age of 21 and not what most countries and states consider adults to be at 18. It is still NCL's rules (for whatever their reasons are, whether logical or illogical). So I do stand by my earlier comments that what you are doing is blatently breaking their rules and manipulating the "system" to do what you want. And regardless to what well meaning rep of NCL says (as per another poster) unless of course you can get it in writing.

 

Over half of the laws in the U.S. and Canada (I don't know the laws of many other countries) I don't agree with or see logical reason for that doesn't give me the rights to just choose which law I wish to follow, without, penalty or consequence, just because I have a good reasonor disagree with.