Young Adult Alcoholic Beverage Waiver form Question

[ktpc2005]

I have a family group that I have been in charge of. One of my cousins' son is bringing their friend who are both 18. My cousin saw that they can fill out the Young Adult Alcoholic Beverage Waiver form to allow them to purchase beer and wine. Her question is that she can sign the form for her son, but what does she do for her son's friend as NCL.com says that you can only get the form from the pursar's desk.

[bakerintn]

I'd get a notarized letter from the kids parent(s) giving you permission to sign that form for their son. Take it with you and give it a try.

[jennygirlmt]

I'm pretty sure I just read somewhere that the parent has to sign in person, so the friend won't be able to drink. I think it was in the FAQs, I'll find it.

 

Edited to Add: I just found it in the booklet they sent me with my luggage tags. A legal guardian must be present, a notarized form will NOT work.

 

Of course you must have the notarized forms and proper documentation for having the friend travel with you, but that won't work for drinking. I hope your cousin doesn't let his son drink in front of his friend. And honestly, who wants to be responsible for someone else' kid drinking? Not me! :-)

Edited June 1, 2011 by jennygirlmt

[bplazo]

Well, call me a fuddy duddy but I would not sign a waiver for my child to drink on a ship that I was not on to supervise nor would I want to be the other parent.

[ktpc2005]

I'm pretty sure I just read somewhere that the parent has to sign in person, so the friend won't be able to drink. I think it was in the FAQs, I'll find it.

 

Edited to Add: I just found it in the booklet they sent me with my luggage tags. A legal guardian must be present, a notarized form will NOT work.

 

Of course you must have the notarized forms and proper documentation for having the friend travel with you, but that won't work for drinking. I hope your cousin doesn't let his son drink in front of his friend. And honestly, who wants to be responsible for someone else' kid drinking? Not me! :-)

 

 

Thanks for the answer.

 

From reading the website, I was under the impression that the notarized form is not needed as the friend is over 18 and not under minor.

[monicajay]

Well, call me a fuddy duddy but I would not sign a waiver for my child to drink on a ship that I was not on to supervise nor would I want to be the other parent.

 

 

Fuddy Duddy!

 

The USA is the only industrialized country that is so strict about alcohol. I think NCL has a good policy that is more in line with the rest of the world.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age

 

Teach and preach moderation and responsibility rather than banning it outright. You know they will drink in all the ports, if they binge because they can't drink on the ship, it is no better. JMHO

[ripjerry95]

According to NCL Policy..the Parent or guardian of the person MUST be with them. I would not want to have that responsibility. If anyone of the NCL staff serves anyone underage they are immediately terminated. Can't these kids have fun without drinking?

[Fishbait17]

We brought notarized letters from our daughters' friends' parents (permitting drinking of wine and beer) on several cruises, but the letters were not accepted for that purpose.. It really did not matter though, as they were usually with us and we would just buy a round of beer or bottle of wine for the whole group, or my daughters would buy two beers instead of just one (so they could give one to their friend). We have found that it doesn't really matter who is drinking the beer/wine, it's whose card it is charged to - the computer seemed to reject alcohol charges on card of underaged.. One daughter prefers a "drink" to beer or wine, and at 20, her card was refused for her foo-foo drink - no problem, we just handed the waiter Dad's card instead... As always, know your kids and their friends, and be watchful - but we have never had a problem.. The kids were almost always with us and rarely had more than one or two drinks.

 

Robin

Edited June 2, 2011 by Fishbait17

[che5904]

Fuddy Duddy!

 

The USA is the only industrialized country that is so strict about alcohol. I think NCL has a good policy that is more in line with the rest of the world.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age

 

Teach and preach moderation and responsibility rather than banning it outright. You know they will drink in all the ports, if they binge because they can't drink on the ship, it is no better. JMHO

 

monicajay I'm a little confused about this statement. The first statement you make is the U.S. is too strict and then next sentence praise NCL when their policy say 21.

 

I understand your opinion in the 2nd paragraph, I just don't understand the 2 conflicting sentences in the first.

[monicajay]

monicajay I'm a little confused about this statement. The first statement you make is the U.S. is too strict and then next sentence praise NCL when their policy say 21.

 

I understand your opinion in the 2nd paragraph, I just don't understand the 2 conflicting sentences in the first.

 

Yes, I see where I wasn't clear at all :rolleyes:. I meant the fact that NCL will still allow parents to sign waivers is good in my opinion. Almost all the other cruise lines have discontinued this and stick to the 21 rule for all alcohol including beer and wine. I have witnessed older teens getting s***faced on shore then staggering back on to the ship.

 

I think the US has used its muscle to push cruise lines to respect its laws. When these same ships depart from other countries they all use the 18 rule.

 

Fishbait17: Well handled!

 

Hope this makes more sense.;)

Edited June 2, 2011 by monicajay

[che5904]

Well, call me a fuddy duddy but I would not sign a waiver for my child to drink on a ship that I was not on to supervise nor would I want to be the other parent.

 

Well I won’t call you a fuddy duddy and I can’t totally agree either. I consider someone at 18 an adult. Now that could be strictly because here in Canada our children are considered an adult at 18.

(Well OK sort of (an adult), I've never truly understood the whole concept of sign your own medical papers at 13, drive or leave home at 16, gamble, vote, considered an adult at 18, can't drink or smoke until your 19. I don’t care what age they make the darn thing I just wished our stupid government was consistent with one age to do all.) Sorry a little off topic but I had to get that out of my system ;).

I can understand your thought because in Ohio the drinking age is 21. Why I can’t totally agree is I would not take a friend of my childs that I didn’t totally trust not to cause me issues (I’m very close to all my children’s friends). I would not get the parent to sign unless that young adult was already of a legal age to drink where I was bringing them from. In Ontario Canada our drinking age is 19, So if the young adult I was bringing was 19 then I would have the parents sign, mind you since their child was an adult here, the parents may look at me like I was crazy. I would feel this way as the signing parent as well.

Edited June 2, 2011 by che5904

[che5904]

Yes, I see where I wasn't clear at all :rolleyes:. I meant the fact that NCL will still allow parents to sign waivers is good in my opinion. Almost all the other cruise lines have discontinued this and stick to the 21 rule for all alcohol including beer and wine. I have witnessed older teens getting s***faced on shore then staggering back on to the ship.

 

I think the US has used its muscle to push cruise lines to respect its laws. When these same ships depart from other countries they all use the 18 rule.

 

Fishbait17: Well handled!

 

Hope this makes more sense.;)

 

LOL thank you for clarifying. I don't agree with your reasonings but you are welcome to have your own opinion. I'd have to imagine it all has to do with their legal department and liabilities.

[sparks1093]

I think the US has used its muscle to push cruise lines to respect its laws.

 

No surpise there, other countries do the same thing for ships in their ports and waters, at least to an extent.

 

There was a thread recently where a family was escorted off the ship because of the inebriated behavior of the son and the son's friend, so I would have to know and trust the friend a lot before I would even consider agreeing to be responsible for them in that regard.

[che5904]

Does anyone have a guess as to why wine and beer and not all alcohol. I've seen just as many plastered people on wine and beer as I have on alcohol.

[che5904]

so I would have to know and trust the friend a lot before I would even consider agreeing to be responsible for them in that regard.

 

As stated above so would I. But I'd have to trust the young adult a lot to even take responsibility without drinking. If I brought say a 20 year old with my, I would have to sign responsibility for someone that here at home had been an "adult" for already 2 years. Something tells me they wouldn't want me bossing them around or enforcing rules :eek:. So I would definately have to know that they were able to be trusted to not get me kicked off the ship.

[sparks1093]

Does anyone have a guess as to why wine and beer and not all alcohol. I've seen just as many plastered people on wine and beer as I have on alcohol.

 

While a beer contains the same amount of alcohol as a shot of liqour the volume of liquid is far greater- drink 32 ounces of beer at one time and get a buzz- drink 32 ounces of rum at one time and possibly die of alcohol poisoning. Of course that's just a guess.

[motherdaughtercombo]

I am planning our first cruise in January with my daughter who is 20 and myself. She is from a previous marriage and goes by her father's last name. I have since gone back to my maiden name and so our last names are different and She lives with her father and not me for her schooling as it is closer so our addresses are also different. Will I still be allowed to sign the under age permission waiver on the cruise ship on NCL? and what documentation will I need to bring with me?

Edited June 14, 2015 by motherdaughtercombo
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[Sauer-kraut]

I am planning our first cruise in January with my daughter who is 20 and myself. She is from a previous marriage and goes by her father's last name. I have since gone back to my maiden name and so our last names are different and She lives with her father and not me for her schooling as it is closer so our addresses are also different. Will I still be allowed to sign the under age permission waiver on the cruise ship on NCL? and what documentation will I need to bring with me?

 

Her birth certificate and your divorce decree perhaps....something to show the bridge from your name to hers

[tarps14]

I am planning our first cruise in January with my daughter who is 20 and myself. She is from a previous marriage and goes by her father's last name. I have since gone back to my maiden name and so our last names are different and She lives with her father and not me for her schooling as it is closer so our addresses are also different. Will I still be allowed to sign the under age permission waiver on the cruise ship on NCL? and what documentation will I need to bring with me?

 

*I gave an answer to your situation in your other thread regarding this.

[Twinks17]

Thanks for the answer.

 

From reading the website, I was under the impression that the notarized form is not needed as the friend is over 18 and not under minor.

 

 

I've also been searching the terms for this answer, I read it that, if your sailing US waters then a waiver can be signed but has to be a parent or legal guardian on board for their child aged 18- 21. When sailing in Europe then there is no waiver needed for passengers over the age of 18. I not sure if I'm reading this correctly? We are sailing with our 19yr old in Europe. Could anyone clarify if i need to sign the waiver?

[Sauer-kraut]

I've also been searching the terms for this answer, I read it that, if your sailing US waters then a waiver can be signed but has to be a parent or legal guardian on board for their child aged 18- 21. When sailing in Europe then there is no waiver needed for passengers over the age of 18. I not sure if I'm reading this correctly? We are sailing with our 19yr old in Europe. Could anyone clarify if i need to sign the waiver?

 

What is the minimum age for purchase and/or consumption of alcoholic beverages?

Passengers must be 21 years of age or older to purchase or consume alcohol. With the exception of Alaska and Hawaii itineraries, Norwegian permits young adults to purchase and personally consume wine and beer only while onboard and with the consent of an accompanying parent. Authorization will be given only when the accompanying parent completes the Young Adult Alcoholic Beverage Waiver form. This form can be obtained and completed at the Guest Services Desk upon embarkation of the vessel. However, passengers 18 years of age or older are permitted to consume alcoholic beverages when sailing on round-trip European voyages without having to complete the Young Adult Alcoholic Beverage Waiver form.

[Twinks17]

What is the minimum age for purchase and/or consumption of alcoholic beverages?

 

Passengers must be 21 years of age or older to purchase or consume alcohol. With the exception of Alaska and Hawaii itineraries, Norwegian permits young adults to purchase and personally consume wine and beer only while onboard and with the consent of an accompanying parent. Authorization will be given only when the accompanying parent completes the Young Adult Alcoholic Beverage Waiver form. This form can be obtained and completed at the Guest Services Desk upon embarkation of the vessel. However, passengers 18 years of age or older are permitted to consume alcoholic beverages when sailing on round-trip European voyages without having to complete the Young Adult Alcoholic Beverage Waiver form.

 

 

Thank you [emoji2]

[b_cruise]

REALLYYY.? my daughter who is 19 on a europe cruise with me in July....we were told we had to sign waiver. She could not get the free UBP, she could only get soda

[triptolemus]

REALLYYY.? my daughter who is 19 on a europe cruise with me in July....we were told we had to sign waiver. She could not get the free UBP, she could only get soda

 

Who told you that?

 

Remember to make the distinction between being allowed to consume alcohol on the ship at 18 to under-21 years (permitted), and being able to purchase or otherwise have one of NCL's alcohol package when 18 to under-21 (not permitted).

[b_cruise]

My TA.

 

so will she (19) be able to have daiquiris in Europe or just beer/ wine?