Smoking policy - a nice compromise ?

[maxamuus]

Am i the only one who thinks the policy change was a nice compromise ??

 

I am a ex-smoker (quit a couple years ago) I would have NEVER smoked in a Cabin. Smoking in a cabin would like be locking yourself in a walk in closet and smoking. I also didn't smoke in my home cause lets be honest it stinks.

 

I am always walked outside to smoke. Even when i smoked on cruise i ALWAYS walked outside to smoke. I would never smoke in the Piano bar as again confined space, lots of people, just easier to walk outside and smoke.

 

The one place i did smoke was the Cigar bar. By its name its somewhere to smoke. I also smoked in the Casino. Guess it reminds of Vegas so gambling, drink and smoking went hand in hand.

 

So i think its a fair compromise for all. Vast majority never smoked in cabins anyway, you can still smoke in the Cigar bar and Casino and outside where in my book smoking should be done.

 

Guess i just dont see the outrage. Thanks Carnival for a fair and equitable policy change.

[firefly333]

If you are expecting everyone to agree, I doubt it. I booked a inside cabin with a smoker and now she probably isnt going since they are changing the rules on already booked cruises. Im expecting to do another solo cruise.. so no I dont see this as a great compromise... start a new policy past where people have already booked. dont change the rules on already booked cruises.

 

I still plan on going, so I dont want to cancel, but I might have booked it differently had I known ahead of time.

[Dwtlcambre]

Not so, from what they are posting there will be no more cigar bar and a small area in casino.

[D-Roc]

start a new policy past where people have already booked. dont change the rules on already booked cruises.

 

 

But there are those people who have booked cruises two years in advance.

[maxamuus]

Honestly she was going to sit in a little inside cabin and smoke ??

[D-Roc]

Honestly she was going to sit in a little inside cabin and smoke ??

 

Of course. Isn't that what you would do when you spend 1000+ dollars to go on a cruise?:D

[steveNcindy]

From our viewpoint yes, it is a fair compromise. We always book a balcony so it should not impact our cruise much at all except for having to learn the where you can and where you can't areas are now.

 

On the other hand, Princess is now off the list along with Celebrity as we enjoy our balcony and while we smoke, we won't be sailing with them.

 

I think the majority of people feel this is fair on both sides of the fence. However, there will always be extremes on both sides you will never please.

[AdrenalineRush]

Honestly she was going to sit in a little inside cabin and smoke ??

From the uproar she is not alone. That would be an interesting poll..how many actually smoked in their cabin.

[jenwales]

I thought it was a nice compromise. Admittedly, I'm a nonsmoker and the biggest problem I had on my one Carnival cruise was smoke pouring into my cabin from the connecting one. I'm not exaggerating, it was visible and constant even though the room steward did his best to clear it out.

 

I can't remember the last time I was in a hotel that allowed smoking, and cabins are the same thing, imo. I have zero problem with people smoking outside (including balconies) and although I would prefer that the dance clubs be smoke free I can accept and get behind the smokers having that indoor space to do their thing. I am also thrilled that the piano bar is nonsmoking because now I can enjoy THAT particular indoor space.

[rh3]

I agree, at least until someone sticks his or her head around my balcony partition with the anti-smoking dirty look. The only time I ever smoked in the cabin of any cruise line was in or near the bathroom, to insure that the vent sucked up the second-hand smoke. Courtesy to neighbors won't permit me to do that any more--the balcony it is!

[maxamuus]

I agree SteveNCindy. I guess maybe i see it as fair as i sailed Princess (my last smoking cruise) and the policy didn't seem extreme. Anywhere i was and if i wanted to smoke i just walked outside and lit up. Wasn't a huge ordeal.

 

Again i didnt smoke in my home so i was used to walking outside i suppose if you smoke in your house and in your bedroom etc it would be a change to have to walk outside.

[maxamuus]

Guess i misread the part about the Cigar bars. That is stupid to have a Cigar bar where you cant smoke. Never saw anyone use that lounge anyway. I would agree that makes no sense.

[firefly333]

Guess i misread the part about the Cigar bars. That is stupid to have a Cigar bar where you cant smoke. Never saw anyone use that lounge anyway. I would agree that makes no sense.

 

sports bar too no smoking from what I read. sports and smoking seem to go together. Casino bar, some area in the casino, except on formal nights (my friend likes the casino), so now on 2 formal nights, no place there to smoke either. One degisnated bar per ship is how I read the new policy (? in addition to the casino bar?)... whatever, as I dont smoke I didnt read it real close.

 

If my friend wanted to smoke in our cabin, I have plenty of air deorderizers, and would not have bothered me.

 

Im not unhappy .. small blip, it is just my personal wish they would have had the implemenation further out, past where people are booking.

[lhanson38]

I think its more than fair..And I smoke..I'm also a smoker who never smokes inside..I alway found the pbar way to smokey..have also found the casino to smokey..On the other hand i have had people on the balcony next to me do nothing but bitch everytime my DH and I came out to smoke.

That really buged me..But the all time worst was on a cruise my DH and I our non smoking DD and her DH were sitting outside on the smoking side of the lido drinking coffee and smoking when a women sat down behind us and just started with the snide remarks...She was so bad that my DD picked up a cigg and lite it..Now this is really a big deal she is very anti smoking..So now the women comes over holding her nose and says we have to put them out right now..I looked up and said you do know your in the smoking side of the ship. Her replay was she wanted to watch us come in to port so I needed to put it out right now..I was so put off I found myself starting to put out my cigg. My DD kicks me under the table and says don't you dare...LOL..The women gos and sits down again and just kept bitching and bitching...I swear i sat there smoking so much longer than I wanted to just becuse she was so rude..:eek:

[RuthlessBoss]

I agree, at least until someone sticks his or her head around my balcony partition with the anti-smoking dirty look. The only time I ever smoked in the cabin of any cruise line was in or near the bathroom, to insure that the vent sucked up the second-hand smoke. Courtesy to neighbors won't permit me to do that any more--the balcony it is!

I think I may have smoked once or twice in a cabin, usually as my last settle down ritual as I don't fall asleep easily. Otherwise, it may be one IN the bathroom with my hand held high for the vent to catch the smoke. Any major smoking was in designated areas, especially in early mornings. Had comradery with a few cruisers in the same boat.(wouldn't smoke in the cabin). Now, I'm almost sorry I was so thoughtful. Would have enjoyed my ciggies and coffee in the cabin in my PJ's if I knew that it would officially be banned.

[BallFour4]

I hate cigarette smoke, period. I spend $150 a month after my deductibles for allergy injections and asthma drugs with smoke being a strong trigger of an asthmatic reaction.

 

My dad smoked for 55 years, through three MI's and today would tell you he'd love to have a cigarette. His other vices were few...

 

Cigarettes and smokers are a source of direct and indirect profit for so much. Taxes on cigarettes are a cash resource for waste by government, smokers and drinking sometimes go hand-in-hand so bars love smokers.

 

Cruise lines sell alcohol for a steep profit. If the anti-smoking campaigns would cease then you'd not see the uproar about smokers. But... it's different.

 

As the numbers of complaints grow, shareholders want to appease the majority no matter how slim a margin.

 

The end result is tobacco companies snuggle up with politicians, the cigarettes are laced with chemicals that are absolutely addicting and the rest of us point our collective fingers and complain.

 

Pass me my inhaler, a man with a Winston is 200 feet away :)

 

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[lhanson38]

I agree, at least until someone sticks his or her head around my balcony partition with the anti-smoking dirty look. The only time I ever smoked in the cabin of any cruise line was in or near the bathroom, to insure that the vent sucked up the second-hand smoke. Courtesy to neighbors won't permit me to do that any more--the balcony it is!

 

 

I don't get this I would no more stick my head around someone balcony

than i would get on a latter and look over my neighbors fence...

That just so rude!

[Slo_Pokey]

I think its more than fair..And I smoke..I'm also a smoker who never smokes inside..I alway found the pbar way to smokey..have also found the casino to smokey..On the other hand i have had people on the balcony next to me do nothing but bitch everytime my DH and I came out to smoke.

That really buged me..But the all time worst was on a cruise my DH and I our non smoking DD and her DH were sitting outside on the smoking side of the lido drinking coffee and smoking when a women sat down behind us and just started with the snide remarks...She was so bad that my DD picked up a cigg and lite it..Now this is really a big deal she is very anti smoking..So now the women comes over holding her nose and says we have to put them out right now..I looked up and said you do know your in the smoking side of the ship. Her replay was she wanted to watch us come in to port so I needed to put it out right now..I was so put off I found myself starting to put out my cigg. My DD kicks me under the table and says don't you dare...LOL..The women gos and sits down again and just kept bitching and bitching...I swear i sat there smoking so much longer than I wanted to just becuse she was so rude..:eek:

 

That was completely uncalled for. I am a non smoker who lives with a smoker and it is possible to be civilized to one another. You sound like a very considerate smoker and I can't believe someone would still complain even though you were in a designated smoking area. Just like smokers can't smoke in a non-smoking area- Non smokers shouldn't be allowed to whine about it while in a smoking area. :rolleyes:

Good for you for standing your ground.

[maxamuus]

I think part of this "issue" is regional differences. In the West smoking is a LOT more restrictive then the east or the south.

 

In my state it is illegal to smoke within 25 ft of a door. You can be ticketed for smoking in a public park. Likewise illegal to smoke at schools and libraries. Heck you can even get a ticket for smoking in your own car if there are kids in it.

 

So i guess westerners are used to the concept of if you want to smoke its going to be outside away from people.

[jma624]

I agree it is a nice compromise.

My husband (a smoker) and myself (Non Smoker) took our first ever cruise on the freedom last October. We had an OV on the main deck, so he had to go up 7 floors to the Lido for a smoke – he doesn’t smoke indoors, EVER. Although we were rarely in the cabin except to sleep, bathe & dress, we decided it would be worth the extra $ to spring for a balcony next time – just for his “smoking” convenience.

I have to say, as a non smoker, with mild asthma, the only time I was bothered by smoke to the point of having to leave was in the piano bar. I even spent a lot of time in the casino and was able to enjoy myself without being “smoked out”.

I think as non-smokers we are somewhat more aware of smoking around us because EVERYWHERE you go now is smoke-free. Does anyone still remember smoky bars, smoking “sections” in restaurants, smoking on planes, busses and even in the office? I mean, some of these people who claim to get ill from a whiff of smoke must have lived in a bubble!

I think it would do everyone well to calm down and distinguish between the hazard of inhaling a steady stream of second hand smoke from the annoyance of an occasional waft from a neighboring balcony. An if you are really that sensitive to it that just the smell of someone’s cig. Gives you a migraine, or sinus infection, then the onus is on YOU to avoid areas where people are ALLOWED to smoke. This includes myself, as my own sensitivity can vary with the status of my asthma.

Let me also say that I will feel safer knowing that the risk of fire is reduced with no smoking in the cabins.

[elcuchio24]

It's fine as far as I'm concerned. If smokers don't like the additional restrictions, why not just quite for the week at sea?:)

[maxamuus]

If my friend wanted to smoke in our cabin, I have plenty of air deorderizers, and would not have bothered me.

 

Well before your friend decides not to cruise because of the policy change ask her to experience smoking in a inside cabin.

 

Go out to her car and roll all the windows up and leave the car off and start smoking. Now if she can finish a whole cigarette (which i doubt) Have her sit in there for 15-20 mins. We all know insides have poor ventilation so that smoke is going to hang around for a while.

 

Then ask how many times she would want to experience that? I suspect the answer will be "never again thanks" So the policy issue wouldn't be a deal breaker.

[jpg1747]

I don't smoke and I have no plans to book a balcony. I think a good compromise for balconies is to designate certain decks/sides of the ship to be smoking or non-smoking.

 

Honestly, I always thought the cabins were nonsmoking since I have never detected the odor in any cabin I've been in, on any cruiseline. I have avoided the piano bar because the smoke bothered me. It's not been as bad in the casino because it's a bigger space.

[Chris41]

I don't smoke and I have no plans to book a balcony. I think a good compromise for balconies is to designate certain decks/sides of the ship to be smoking or non-smoking.

 

Honestly, I always thought the cabins were nonsmoking since I have never detected the odor in any cabin I've been in, on any cruiseline. I have avoided the piano bar because the smoke bothered me. It's not been as bad in the casino because it's a bigger space.

 

 

Well lucky you....You can now enjoy all those places that you couldn't before.....congrats and happy cruising

[wendysue44]

I called Carnival today and upgraded to a balcony cabin from an OV, as I and my boyfriend, are both smokers. I also requested and received cabin M236 which is the furthest aft on the port side so when we are smoking on our balcony, no one will be down-wind from us. Of course the upgrade did cost more, but I feel it will be worth it, and we will be able to light up legally.:p