judyzoo Posted March 2, 2012 #201 Share Posted March 2, 2012 It's definitively not one of the newer "resort" ships but I fail to see from the article how you get that it's a tub. It's an old ship without many balconies. Doesn't necessarily make it a tub. Maybe it is, but nothing I've seen shows that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judyzoo Posted March 2, 2012 #202 Share Posted March 2, 2012 The claims about spam sandwiches are also present in many articles about the Costa Allegra. Here is one quote: “If anything had gone against us, such as the weather, we would have had it. Information was kept from us, we were fed dry bread sandwiches with thick salami and spam." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9115682/Costa-Allegra-passengers-tell-of-hell-on-board.html Of course the food wasn't good, but there was food, such as it was. The worst thing was probably the lack of toilet facilities. But, things happen; it sounds like the cruise line did the best that they could, and the compensation seems very fair. I'd say that it was handled well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjoon Posted March 2, 2012 #203 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Have you been on the Allegra??? Ron I have and enjoyed it a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keel Haul Posted March 2, 2012 #204 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I used to work for Cunard.so did Paris Katsoufis, did you know him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stcruise2012 Posted March 2, 2012 #205 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Of course the food wasn't good, but there was food, such as it was. The worst thing was probably the lack of toilet facilities. But, things happen; it sounds like the cruise line did the best that they could, and the compensation seems very fair. I'd say that it was handled well. I was wondering about that. Since the sewage system wasn't working did they continue to empty their guts into the toilet or did they have to do that off the edge of the ship into the ocean! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquil Waters Posted March 2, 2012 #206 Share Posted March 2, 2012 It seems a fair offer IF conditions were as advertised. I hearken back to the Splendor where there were many claims of Spam sandwiches, etc, but none ever confirmed (although I am sure the cuisine was creative) I think many people use the word spam as a generic mystery meat that they would not normally eat. Just as many people in the southern US call all soda/pop/colas Coke. Whether they are actually drinking Pepsi or diet coke or whatever. I don't think it is necessarily an attempt to ezaggerate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlesteelo Posted March 2, 2012 #207 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I think many people use the word spam as a generic mystery meat that they would not normally eat. Just as many people in the southern US call all soda/pop/colas Coke. Whether they are actually drinking Pepsi or diet coke or whatever. I don't think it is necessarily an attempt to ezaggerate. People also have a huge tendency to over-exaggerate when interviewed by the media. One mention of the word 'spam' and the tabloids will have a field day. Honestly? It wasn't an ordeal, as some media outlets are letting it out to be. Inconvenient and at times uncomfortable, but certainly not horrendous. This quote someone posted earlier annoys me: “If anything had gone against us, such as the weather, we would have had it. Information was kept from us, we were fed dry bread sandwiches with thick salami and spam." What did they expect? How much more information could they have needed? They were adrift, and were being towed to the Seychelles! I would imagine they would have been informed of that. Regarding food, were they expecting regular meals? In a situation like this, they need to think logically, rather than immediately going after the line. Would they be able to cook food at home without a cooker or a fridge working? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoughtMyPoints Posted March 2, 2012 #208 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I used to work for Cunard. Then you will know that pre-Carnival, Cunard had lesser ships like the Cunard Countess and the Cunard Princess. And judging from current reviews the QM2 is becoming a lesser ship. In many cases, I prefer the "lesser" ships. That said, it was no secret that the Costa Allegra and Costa Classica were/are on borrowed time. But every ship has its fans who just feel "comfortable" no matter the gripes of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2012 #209 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Originally Posted by Glock I used to work for Cunard. But now I hardly work at all!:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricruiser Posted March 2, 2012 #210 Share Posted March 2, 2012 The Spam brand of tinned processed meat (and who knows what else) found on North American supermarket shelves has never found its way to Italian markets so the "spam" that some passengers have called it must be something else. It was probably "mortadella" which is a typical packed meat product made in the Bologna area of Italy and in fact it resembles American bologna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg-nc Posted March 2, 2012 #211 Share Posted March 2, 2012 The Spam brand of tinned processed meat (and who knows what else) found on North American supermarket shelves has never found its way to Italian markets so the "spam" that some passengers have called it must be something else. It was probably "mortadella" which is a typical packed meat product made in the Bologna area of Italy and in fact it resembles American bologna. Actually Spam (the tinned processed meat) is prevalent across many areas of the Pacific and Indian ocean region. If the "Spam" was part of the food delivered by helicopter then it was probably Spam. If the "Spam" was onboard already then it was probably "mortadella". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted March 2, 2012 #212 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Actually Spam (the tinned processed meat) is prevalent across many areas of the Pacific and Indian ocean region. If the "Spam" was part of the food delivered by helicopter then it was probably Spam. If the "Spam" was onboard already then it was probably "mortadella". Mmmmmm... Spam - yummy. I love it. Spam fritters are great but I don't suppose they would have been an option without power. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquil Waters Posted March 2, 2012 #213 Share Posted March 2, 2012 People also have a huge tendency to over-exaggerate when interviewed by the media. One mention of the word 'spam' and the tabloids will have a field day. Honestly? It wasn't an ordeal, as some media outlets are letting it out to be. Inconvenient and at times uncomfortable, but certainly not horrendous. This quote someone posted earlier annoys me: “If anything had gone against us, such as the weather, we would have had it. Information was kept from us, we were fed dry bread sandwiches with thick salami and spam." What did they expect? How much more information could they have needed? They were adrift, and were being towed to the Seychelles! I would imagine they would have been informed of that. Regarding food, were they expecting regular meals? In a situation like this, they need to think logically, rather than immediately going after the line. Would they be able to cook food at home without a cooker or a fridge working? I think not. Not an ordeal??? No working toilets. That alone makes it an ordeal to my way of thinking....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keel Haul Posted March 2, 2012 #214 Share Posted March 2, 2012 This is quite interesting http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2109214/Costa-Allegra-Cruise-passengers-ordeal-Costa-future-called-question.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg-nc Posted March 2, 2012 #215 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Fishing Vessel will get over 1M Euros for rescuing Costa Allegra (AGI) Berlin - The French fishing vessel "Trevignon" made the catch of the century when it towed the stricken cruise liner "Costa Allegra" into the port of Victoria on the island of Mahe in the Seychelles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCruze Posted March 2, 2012 #216 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I wonder if it will make financial sense to replace the engines and rewire everything in this old ship. I am afraid that she might be heading to the breakers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquil Waters Posted March 2, 2012 #217 Share Posted March 2, 2012 This is quite interesting http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2109214/Costa-Allegra-Cruise-passengers-ordeal-Costa-future-called-question.html I just quit reading as soon as they used the word ordeal.....:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy100 Posted March 3, 2012 #218 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Mmmmmm... Spam - yummy. I love it. Spam fritters are great but I don't suppose they would have been an option without power. J I like bologna. With mustard it is quite tasty. If you are hungry you will eat whatever is available. Now I don't think I could have handled the toilet situation. Yuck.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teriwinkle Posted March 3, 2012 #219 Share Posted March 3, 2012 And I will gladly go with you! Count me in! =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teriwinkle Posted March 3, 2012 #220 Share Posted March 3, 2012 That leads to one follow-up thought. Costa had a great reputation until it was purchased by Carnival and has only had a medicore reputation since the purchase. Carnival is very focused on financial aspects of the operation and determining how to squeeze out every possible dime operationally. They have the best financial ratios, profitability, higher dividend, etc. of all the cruise lines that publicly report. Is there a correlation between being purchased by Carnival Corp and the quality of service to passengers on a cruise line? Before/After/etc. Does it hold true for other cruiselines in Carnival Corp family. Or is this all bunk? We were passengers on the QE2 before Carnival acquired Cunard. We feel that things changed and not for the better on our Cunard experiences post Carnival acquisition. But Cunard remains our favorite cruise line nonetheless, mostly because of the awesome ballroom dancing venues and the many friends from the UK we've met onboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel1733 Posted March 3, 2012 Author #221 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I like bologna. With mustard it is quite tasty. If you are hungry you will eat whatever is available. Now I don't think I could have handled the toilet situation. Yuck.... I agree......we had a major ice storm and lost electric power for 9 days. As we live in the country there was no water, heat, toilet, etc. we had canned food and bottled water stored.... But the toilet situation was the worst. I was able to haul 5 gallon cans from town each day after work and we used it to fill the toilets. I can't imagine being confined to a ship and not being able to do that. The darkness at night was also terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingee Posted March 3, 2012 #222 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Darkness can be very scary in the wide ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alita Posted March 3, 2012 #223 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Informative interview... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/seychelles/9119259/Costa-Allegra-crew-were-clueless-claims-British-passenger.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love.II.Cruise Posted March 3, 2012 #224 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Informative interview... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/seychelles/9119259/Costa-Allegra-crew-were-clueless-claims-British-passenger.html Wow! I know it is only one account, but still. I think if that was my first experience on a cruise, I wouldn't go again either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainelycruising Posted March 3, 2012 #225 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Costa has lost two ships in the first two months of 2012. At this rate, it will lose the fleet within the next twelve months. Where is Micky Arison? Still hobnobbing with celebrities at Miami Heat games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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