Warning for smokers on the Breeze

[LizaMM]

This thread is informational only, and I do not want to start a smoking debate here.

Just sharing some information that we just found out...there will be no smoking allowed anywhere on Lido on the Breeze (despite John's FB post just before she sailed that smoking would be allowed on Lido port side). Smokers will have to go up to deck 11, or down to Promenade port side. Since Carnival does such a lousy job of giving out the correct information, I thought I would share.

 

THANK YOU for posting this. I was trying to figure out what the deal was. I did see you ask this question on one of the Breeze threads in regards to what JH had put on FB. ....Glad you checked it out and posted here because I don't follow his FB page to have seen it otherwise!!

 

I wonder where this area on deck 11 is. This would be right above Lido?? isn't Lido Deck 10 on the Breeze?

 

Also....from one of the posts I read it did not appear as if there was any indoor lounge with smoking??

[JerseyJaguar]

Left or right, you'll find the area quick enough.

 

If a ship getting a Guys during 2.0, Lido smoking goes away, from what I understand. When discontent started in 2011 on Liberty, it should have been a wake up call to Carnival. I mentioned the super cheap rates for interior rooms on Liberty, almost makes it feasable for solo travel, but ain't gonna do it! That ship is toooo big to get to level 10 out in the open.

So I assume that would mean the new Sunshine will be as restrictive. I had been going back and forth between the Sunshine and the Legend next May and now I'm even more glad I picked the Legend (the savings with the obstructed balcony was my decider since no balcony is no longer an option).

[Sargent_Schultz]

Sunshine will at least have a cigar bar.

[Almost Packed]

Thanks OP for the update. I hate inconsistency. It makes making choices difficult without proper info.

[waldocruiser1]

UGH! Another ship off our to do list.

 

That is funny We just added it to our to do list.

[Irishlinny]

THANK YOU for posting this. I was trying to figure out what the deal was. I did see you ask this question on one of the Breeze threads in regards to what JH had put on FB. ....Glad you checked it out and posted here because I don't follow his FB page to have seen it otherwise!!

 

I wonder where this area on deck 11 is. This would be right above Lido?? isn't Lido Deck 10 on the Breeze?

 

Also....from one of the posts I read it did not appear as if there was any indoor lounge with smoking??

You're welcome, Liza! Yes, deck 11 is right above Lido. Looks like deck 11 midship is where the smoking is allowed. And there are places inside to smoke...what was once considered the jazz lounge, a section of the casino bar and the nightclub. Just wish they could give us a small section of Lido and I would be happy:rolleyes:

So I assume that would mean the new Sunshine will be as restrictive. I had been going back and forth between the Sunshine and the Legend next May and now I'm even more glad I picked the Legend (the savings with the obstructed balcony was my decider since no balcony is no longer an option).

It appears that as they renovate, the smoking areas disappear and get smaller. Enjoy the Legend...we love that ship! But loved her a lot more before they turned aft Lido into Serenity and made it non-smoking:mad:

that is terrific if they ban it all over the Lido. I appreciate some people like to kill their lungs and enjoy a smoke, but I can't stand it when I am trying to relax/eat on a cot and there are a group of people lighting up right next to me. If they left it on one side of the ship away from Food I could understand but I don''t mind this way. To be honest, who really thinks it will be enforced? And to be brutally honest most smokers couldn't give a rats behind if they are/aren't allowed to smoke in certain places. Take an Amusement Park or within 50 ft of a Hospital Entrance. They smoke where they want!

One side of Lido is all we are asking...non-smokers can sit on the other side...it's always worked before. And I take much offense that you say smokers don't care...MOST of us try to smoke where it is allowed.:mad:

[glrounds]

On all 3 of my cruises on the SPLENDOR, smoking was NOT allowed on the Lido. However, just above, on deck 10 (not 11) overlooking the Aft Lido pool, smoking was fine.

 

[smokey haze]

Keep trying, sooner or later you will be a non smoker too! I smoked for 38 years & I tried 4 or 5 times until I became one. I used Chantix a few times but I have a handle on it now.

 

My hubby on the other hand is one of THOSE kinds of ex-smokers. He makes a big deal out of the smell so I smoked one around him back in June & I made him mad! He asked me what I was doing & I answered, smoking a cig. He said why & I replied back because pot isn't legal!! Hahahaaha we were at a friend's kids graduation party surrounded by prison guards so of course we all had a good laugh with that one. The hubby wasn't too impressed though!

 

As you can see from my user name I still go by Smokey because I don't know what else to call myself plus I named my little doggie Smokey before I quit.

[iluvdoxies]

This thread is informational only, and I do not want to start a smoking debate here.

Just sharing some information that we just found out...there will be no smoking allowed anywhere on Lido on the Breeze (despite John's FB post just before she sailed that smoking would be allowed on Lido port side). Smokers will have to go up to deck 11, or down to Promenade port side. Since Carnival does such a lousy job of giving out the correct information, I thought I would share.

 

Well that about does it for me -----am through with Carnival after this cruise and Allen's 100 candles/ Was getting fed up with Carnival anyway

 

NCL is sooo ,uch nicer----------you cant smoke in the cabins, but you can on the balcony and one side of the Lido deck and part of the Haven has a bar where you can smoke (outside)

[djwood24]

So...this means deck 11 in the high winds...no cover... bucket to sit on

I believe if you look at CCL website for smoking policy it states you can smoke on the lido...just saying ....unless of course it was changed...

 

I agree...Make a policy....stick with it all ships...or if they have a policy on a specific ship...keep it or allow people to cancel

[katpetal]

But if you get the balcony next to me, don't complain that I'm smoking:cool:

 

Yeah, we're trying to get them to post a list of each ship's smoking areas since they apparently are becoming much different from one another, even in the same class...

 

Thanks very much, my friend!;):D

 

Ill probably still complain about it, but only once, and only to my husband. No reason to complain to anyone else for someone smoking where theyre supposed to.

[RuthlessBoss]

Someone mentioned no smoking on Splendor, just curious as to why.

[legion3]

So...this means deck 11 in the high winds...no cover... bucket to sit on

I believe if you look at CCL website for smoking policy it states you can smoke on the lido...just saying ....unless of course it was changed...

 

I agree...Make a policy....stick with it all ships...or if they have a policy on a specific ship...keep it or allow people to cancel

 

The problem is policies are designed to fix a problem. After implementation the policy often needs tweaking as other problems arise or the original problem was not cured.

 

As far as smoking goes the complaints of the anti-smokers will always be delievered with far more intensity and zealotry than the concerns of smokers. A company like ccl is forced to try to deal with both but eventually the noisier bunch gets the attention.

 

A slow steady drip by drip loss of smoking areas is not by accident. And companies like ccl will probably be thrilled when the US bans (even if constructively) and requires companies using US facilities to adhere or lose the access to the biggest money making market in the world.

 

Smoking is needed by the government right now as its a great revenue generator. However, they will make it more restrictive and costly and attemp to drag private companies along.

 

The government learned a lesson on prohibition and so smoking bans and restrictions will be slow and steady.

[LHP]

Someone mentioned no smoking on Splendor, just curious as to why.

 

 

No smoking on the Splendor Lido because the retractable roof makes it an inside space.

 

I will say that folks who were on the Splendor did say the deck above (while not on Lido) was comfortable with stuffed chairs, tables, covered and a hot tub.

 

Unlike the Liberty which (last time I heard) had none of these things on the next deck up.

[LHP]

Now that is "appears" (at least according to my family and friends that use them) that there are a couple of good Electronic cigarettes out there.....

 

I wish Carnival would allow them everywhere (except the dining room and main theater....all those twinkling lights would be distracting...)...

 

and the silly thing is....Carnival could sell them onboard and make a ton of money.....

 

I never thought Carnival would not take advantage of a money making opportunity.

[Irishlinny]

[quote name='katpetal']Ill probably still complain about it, but only once, and only to my husband. No reason to complain to anyone else for someone smoking where theyre supposed to.[/quote]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]Thank you...that's very kind:) And to be honest, I try to be a conscientcious smoker (as do most of them) and if I knew it bothered someone on the next balcony, I would try to work something out with them, as long as they were reasonable about it. If someone was rude about it, it would be all over;)[/SIZE][/FONT]
[quote name='LHP']No smoking on the Splendor Lido because the retractable roof makes it an inside space.

I will say that folks who were on the Splendor did say the deck above (while not on Lido) was comfortable with stuffed chairs, tables, covered and a hot tub.

Unlike the Liberty which (last time I heard) had none of these things on the next deck up.[/quote]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]It sounds like the area on Breeze is nice as well, but again, away from the action and the bar. The Liberty was handled VERY badly and without warning...I would have been pitching a fit if I were on one of those first couple of cruises!:mad:[/SIZE][/FONT]
[quote name='LHP']Now that is "appears" (at least according to my family and friends that use them) that there are a couple of good Electronic cigarettes out there.....

I wish Carnival would allow them everywhere (except the dining room and main theater....all those twinkling lights would be distracting...)...

and the silly thing is....Carnival could sell them onboard and make a ton of money.....

I never thought Carnival would not take advantage of a money making opportunity.[/quote]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]I agree, Carnival is being silly for not allowing E-cigs in non-smoking areas...ridiculous. No smell, no second hand smoke. And yes, it is amazing that they are bypassing a money-maker!:rolleyes:[/SIZE][/FONT]

[tbjl24]

[quote name='RuthlessBoss']I think they did learn from Paradise, but smoking on that ship is now just as limited to certain areas. They will still fill those ships with the Lido ban as long as there is smoking allowed on the balconies. I think Paradise also lost revenues in the casinos with the decrease of gamblers and sales of their drinks. So, Magic and Liberty are off my list. [B]I've noticed Liberty has some mighty fine rates for inside cabins, gee, why could that be?[/B][/QUOTE]

So why do Freedom, Valor, Conquest & Glory all have cheaper or equal inside rates?

[kyrisong1]

I don't smoke but my husband does. So we will probably start looking at other lines, or just stay on the balcony a lot.
You can find some really good deals on NCL, and I know the newer ships are supposed to be very nice.
I also see most last minute good deals on HAL, the smoking policy is less relaxed there.
We love Celebrity, but stopped completely sailing with them when the stopped balcony smoking.
Because I don't smoke my husband NEVER smoked in the room but would go out on the balcony, but if he can't do that, we'll find another line or we'll start AI's.
I really have to laugh at the people that think smoking will be banned in the US, do you really believe this??? Where will they make up for the taxes?? They tax cigerettes to DEATH, you can get a carton in St Martin for 18 bucks and you pay 60 here
If the control freaks do keep pushing to get the smoking banned here, they had better be ready to cough up BIG tax increases!!!
Cheers, Carole

[sanger727]

[quote name='RuthlessBoss']Nope. Smoking area is called A BALCONY. Did this on Liberty after Guy Burgers went in. That wasn't my plan, but it turned out that way. So, happy Lido.[/quote]


I personally don't smoke and hate being around people smoking. However, I understand that if you do smoke you probably won't go a full week without smoking. But forcing people to smoke on their balcony ruins the experience for all the non-smokers who paid extra for the balcony because they wanted to enjoy it. Do agree with non-smoking anywhere near food venues though. If you smoke or around smoke alot you won't notice it, but when you never are (Ohio has banned smoking in all enclosed spaces and many outdoor spaces) you can't taste your food if someone near you is smoking, all you taste is the smell you're breathing in.

[JerseyJaguar]

[quote name='kyrisong1']I really have to laugh at the people that think smoking will be banned in the US, do you really believe this??? Where will they make up for the taxes?? They tax cigerettes to DEATH, you can get a carton in St Martin for 18 bucks and you pay 60 here
If the control freaks do keep pushing to get the smoking banned here, they had better be ready to cough up BIG tax increases!!!
Cheers, Carole[/quote]
My governor based a lot of his budget on the added money from increasing the cigarette tax, never realizing that there's a point where folks will go to another state rather than pay such crazy prices. In Jersey it's almost $80 a carton. In NYC a pack is $13. Everyone figures out a way to get some of their cigarettes cheaper (I go on trips). The mayor of NYC thinks he's gotten people to quit, he hasn't, he's just gotten them to go to the Indian Reservations for cigs.

I don't think the cruiselines will turn their backs completely on smokers, but then I didn't think they'd want smokers moving from their cabins into areas where they effect more people. Sure don't know why nonsmokers wanted that.

[djwood24]

[quote name='JerseyJaguar']My governor based a lot of his budget on the added money from increasing the cigarette tax, never realizing that there's a point where folks will go to another state rather than pay such crazy prices. In Jersey it's almost $80 a carton. In NYC a pack is $13. Everyone figures out a way to get some of their cigarettes cheaper (I go on trips). The mayor of NYC thinks he's gotten people to quit, he hasn't, he's just gotten them to go to the Indian Reservations for cigs.

I don't think the cruiselines will turn their backs completely on smokers, but then I didn't think they'd want smokers moving from their cabins into areas where they effect more people. Sure don't know why nonsmokers wanted that.[/quote]

\LMAO...I drive to PA to save $32/carton...so is NY getting more money in taxes...nope my tax money is going to PA
Go figure...politicians must be running CCL smoking policies....no smoking aft adults only...send them where the kids are
no smoking lido....send them to their balcony not spending money at bars

about the same as I see it

[dave_k63]

I would never, ever put it past the federal government ( or some state governments) to totally ban smoking. But you can bet one thing - the taxes paid by smokers would be made up somewhere. Most likely something that everyone has to use - like groceries, gas,medicine, utilities,luxury tax on restaurants, liquor, electronics, and don't forget increased income taxes.

[Irishlinny]

[quote name='sanger727']I personally don't smoke and hate being around people smoking. However, I understand that if you do smoke you probably won't go a full week without smoking. But forcing people to smoke on their balcony ruins the experience for all the non-smokers who paid extra for the balcony because they wanted to enjoy it. Do agree with non-smoking anywhere near food venues though. If you smoke or around smoke alot you won't notice it, but when you never are (Ohio has banned smoking in all enclosed spaces and many outdoor spaces) you can't taste your food if someone near you is smoking, all you taste is the smell you're breathing in.[/quote]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]Don't fret...pretty soon Carnival will set aside a few lifeboats as a smoking area.:rolleyes: Not for nothing but we spend the same for our balcony rooms as you do, and since the non-smokers have screamed so much about where we're allowed to smoke, we have very few places to go anymore...hence more smoking on the balcony. And I'm sorry, but if they made a quarter of the lido deck smoking, and then you decided to go sit there to eat, then that would be your problem...otherwise nobody would be smoking around you while you're eating...it really IS simple.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[quote name='dave_k63']You posted this subject and didn't want a smoking debate? You should have made it about smoking by chair hogs and rum runners to avoid any controversy.[/quote]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]Yeah, I know...silly me:p[/SIZE][/FONT]
[quote name='djwood24']\LMAO...I drive to PA to save $32/carton...so is NY getting more money in taxes...nope my tax money is going to PA
Go figure...politicians must be running CCL smoking policies....no smoking aft adults only...send them where the kids are
no smoking lido....send them to their balcony not spending money at bars

about the same as I see it[/quote]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]Yup! Politicians with beards. Have I mentioned lately just how much I hate politicians???:eek::rolleyes:[/SIZE][/FONT]

[Irishlinny]

[quote name='dave_k63']I would never, ever put it past the federal government ( or some state governments) to totally ban smoking. But you can bet one thing - the taxes paid by smokers would be made up somewhere. Most likely something that everyone has to use - like groceries, gas,medicine, utilities,luxury tax on restaurants, liquor, electronics, and don't forget increased income taxes.[/quote]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]Yup, and then listen to how loud people scream when they have to pick up the slack which had formerly been paid by the smokers. You don't know what you've got til it's gone...which brings me back to no smoking on Lido:mad:[/SIZE][/FONT]

[hihello]

So? Just go up to deck 11, then. LOL...I don't understand what the problem is. It would take you like 15 seconds to go up the elevator and then voila- you can smoke.
I never had a problem on the Miracle- but maybe it's just because I don't sit and smoke my vacation away...