davids68girl Posted February 14, 2013 #4751 Share Posted February 14, 2013 tug line broke - I doubt they are able to dock until tomorrow. poor passengers - the Carnival nightmare continues And it's drifting backwards-away from the channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pungo3 Posted February 14, 2013 #4752 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Poor passengers. They just can't catch a break. It's looking bad for arriving in port tonight. Who would have thought the tow line would break. I feel so bad for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwilltakeonetwo Posted February 14, 2013 #4753 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I would like to know how Carnival is treating the employees that are onboard cleaning up this horrible mess? Since most of their income is in tips, and passengers are being refunded. I would hate to be a room steward to empty the buckets! I can only imagine the conditions of there rooms on the bottom floor. With no relief of a tent on deck. I hope Carnival is over compensating them and making up all of their lost income from tips. They should be receiving hazard pay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam1148 Posted February 14, 2013 #4754 Share Posted February 14, 2013 They'll also have a big wait to take showers at the hotels. If 500 or so people check in at once and immediately go to the showers; the hotel hot water system won't be able to keep up with the demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durangoscots Posted February 14, 2013 #4755 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Let me first say... I totally agree with you- "how else should Carnival have handled this" -my only thought is (and I am asking because I really do not know the answer and would like to) what if - GOD FORBID - that ship had caught fire and they would have had to evacuate. What happens after everyone is safe on their life boats? How do they get rescued from the middle of the ocean? Coast Guard? How do they get passengers from a bobbling life boat to the cutter? I hope you don't think I am being flip...I really just don't know. Read the book on the old Princendam burning in the Gulf of Alaska. They had to abandon ship.... That was some years ago, but the account is really scary. Susan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampskies Posted February 14, 2013 #4756 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Someone here posted that they were readying some sort of tenders to get people off, but I don't know if there's any truth to it. I heard it thru my rccl friend who has a friend at carnival about 2 hours ago......but only if it makes it in the mouth of the port and wind dies down and anchor is able to be dropped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorbackBelle08 Posted February 14, 2013 #4757 Share Posted February 14, 2013 It does appear to be listing. Reports are surfacing they won't get off ship till tomorrow. Hope that isn't true. They're definitely burning daylight right now and the channel won't be safe at night for a tow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketship Posted February 14, 2013 #4758 Share Posted February 14, 2013 So can someone help me with this question. I understand why they aren't tendering people. However, why aren't they using the emergency boats already on the ship? They don't have to worry about people walking across a plank. 40 miles out, they could be to shore in just a few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted February 14, 2013 #4759 Share Posted February 14, 2013 is she sinking or just an optical illusion...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbgd Posted February 14, 2013 #4760 Share Posted February 14, 2013 "Cannot recall any fires on any of the Grand class of Princess ships to date. ! The Star comes to mind I was on her right after drydock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtalum Posted February 14, 2013 #4761 Share Posted February 14, 2013 It's been reported to have a 4.5 degree list. I've noticed a visible list all day today. I don't think it's gotten worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oma24boys Posted February 14, 2013 #4762 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I've been enjoying CNN trying to find one person who really is "suffering" through this ordeal...I know everyone is having a terrible time but as cruisers go they have banded together. The people are working together to make the best of the worst... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcwd2000 Posted February 14, 2013 #4763 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Anyone have a link with the live feed? I can't seem to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasvar Posted February 14, 2013 #4764 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I'm watching live video of the ship coming in and it appears to be listing pretty heavily to the starboard side. Is that an optical illusion? Hard to tell when the camera is so far away. Looks like it could just be a lighting effect too. I would guess optical illusion based on the earlier shots. More concerned that the window may be closing on them getting in tonight. They pretty much need to get most of the way across Mobile Bay before dark. Not feeling confident that they make it unless the get back under way in the next 30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVMet Posted February 14, 2013 #4765 Share Posted February 14, 2013 How far is Tampa? Would wind and currents be more favorable for getting to Tampa? Or what about the Pensacola Naval Air Station? If you google that it comes up with a picture of a Navy ship tied to a pier. Isn't Pensacola fairly close to Mobile? You really want to take a ship with no power under the Sunshine Skyway bridge on a breezy & rainy day... then two hours to dock in a narrow channel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted February 14, 2013 #4766 Share Posted February 14, 2013 People keep talking about Mobile vs Progreso.... But werent ports like Gavelston and New Orleans closer? I understand not docking in Mexico...passport and transportation issues. But why not the closest port in Texas? No. Rough estimates of geometry can be found at https://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?msid=213696368617390101258.0004d5939e253a35dfa80&msa=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskabound77 Posted February 14, 2013 #4767 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Tugboat line broken. No estimate on repair time. Awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthlessBoss Posted February 14, 2013 #4768 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Everyone wants the passengers off as soon as possible but it just isn't going to happen anytime soon. If you watch the live feed you'll occasionally see small boats transferring people aboard. Pretty scary to contemplate that 3,000 times with less well trained people who may be far less agile. I believe one of the CNN reporters mentioned that Carnival has tenders standing by if needed. So I doubt cost is the issue. First, I'm not sure what kind of tenders there would be in Mobile:confused: Since there might be, and it was used, seeing posters think it's an option, then something happens aboard the tender, then what?? Posters will come on and say "why would Carnival be so stupid and put those passengers on one" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtalum Posted February 14, 2013 #4769 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I've been enjoying CNN trying to find one person who really is "suffering" through this ordeal...I know everyone is having a terrible time but as cruisers go they have banded together. The people are working together to make the best of the worst... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Agreed, and the commentators seem almost disappointed by this. The only complaints I've seen about the handling of this is directed towards management for lack of communication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolforkatz Posted February 14, 2013 #4770 Share Posted February 14, 2013 If I may ask, what was your final compensation? We received everything being offered to these people apart from the $500 compensation. Plus anything anybody spent the first 24 hours on board (because that's all we had of our cruise) was wiped clean - there were reports of somebody buying an expensive watch and also of being who lost in the casino - both wiped clean because there would be no electronic records anyway, I guess. And once in San Diego we could have stayed there not just one night, but a few at Carnival's if we wanted. So we did okay all things considered. The $500 extra - I don't know... not much really if you were expected back home on Monday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorbackBelle08 Posted February 14, 2013 #4771 Share Posted February 14, 2013 They should have another tug out there, not just the one. This is such an epic fail on all levels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheewiee Posted February 14, 2013 #4772 Share Posted February 14, 2013 You really want to take a ship with no power under the Sunshine Skyway bridge on a breezy & rainy day... then two hours to dock in a narrow channel? My Dad used to be a Trailways Bus Driver on the Orlando to St. Pete run, when the cargo ship crashed into the Sunshine Skyway, causing the Greyhound Bus to go over.... Tampa isn't an option... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J and J Posted February 14, 2013 #4773 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Tugboat line broken. No estimate on repair time. Awful Yep, I just heard that too. What a nightmare for those poor people and crew on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breezy72 Posted February 14, 2013 #4774 Share Posted February 14, 2013 People keep talking about Mobile vs Progreso.... But werent ports like Gavelston and New Orleans closer? I understand not docking in Mexico...passport and transportation issues. But why not the closest port in Texas? Wasn't Progresso closer at one point? And of course, due to passport issues, they chose not to dock there.... which leads me to believe that in the near future, passports will be mandatory on ALL cruises, for such an occasion of breaking down. Don't know about you all, but I always travel with my passport! Never know when it will come in handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKCruiseMan Posted February 14, 2013 #4775 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Poor passengers. They just can't catch a break. It's looking bad for arriving in port tonight. Who would have thought the tow line would break. I feel so bad for them. Earlier when they had the helicopter up, it did look like they were fighting pretty hard against the wind to keep it pointed in the right direction. Must have been too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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