Children in the steakhouse

[hayesktrm]

BTW, Carnival is a FAMILY cruiseline and a $35. steak house isn't exactly the Ritz.

 

Again, Disney is a FAMILY cruise line and it doesn't allow children in their steakhouse.

 

And for those that talk about how children need to learn how to behave in restaurants, you are absolutely right! The MDR is a great way for children to learn manners--putting your napkin in your lap, using utensils correctly, sitting nicely at the table, etc.

[hayesktrm]

Absolutely there should not be a ban on kids at the steakhouse. Does Ruth's Criss ban kids? NO! Carnivals steakhouse is certainly no fancier than Ruth's Criss. Geez people...treating the Carnival steakhouse like its dining with the queen.

 

I also don't think people should treat the steakhouse like it's Chuck E. Cheese :D

[elli0314]

Fancy steak restaurants is no place for babies or anyone under 16. Nobody who is going to spend $$$ wants to hear a baby crying or be around children acting like goats. There is the Lido buffet where they can eat or other places besides the steakhouse.

If I had been in that man's place I would have said something to a Carnival employee at the time to at least ask the parent to take the child out until they stopped crying.

 

16????? Really????? My children went to the steakhouse at ages 8 and 11. They sat and enjoyed the meal with us. They did not act like goats! Yes you are paying extra and so did I for my children. The man did ask the parents to leave and asked a Carnival employee and they did nothing. It is unfortunate that the parents did not take the baby out. If either of my children had acted up, my husband or I would have dealt with it.

[Havingfun2010]

Fancy steak restaurants is no place for babies or anyone under 16. Nobody who is going to spend $$$ wants to hear a baby crying or be around children acting like goats. There is the Lido buffet where they can eat or other places besides the steakhouse.

If I had been in that man's place I would have said something to a Carnival employee at the time to at least ask the parent to take the child out until they stopped crying.

 

Just so you know, a teenager knows how to behave in a restaruant and a teenage boy has an eating capacity that is beyond reason sometimes, but it's not their fault, they are teenagers. They eat. But I haven't really seen one eating food off the floor like a goat. Why 16? My 20 something, is trained to eat a full meal in 10 minutes. First thing he learned in boot camp. Should he not be allowed, because he can devour a steak in 2 minutes? :cool:

[Bigtex1622]

I always bring a camera with us,

to take pictures of a great night.

It also records, so I would walk up,

and tell them:

"this is going on Facebook worst parents page,

I hope your Friends, Family or Co-workers Don't find it !! "

I wonder if they even have a page for that, need to go look !:D

 

 

:rolleyes:

[SPKEMO]

I don't think babies should be allowed on Earth. Especially not in a steakhouse. (I'm kidding about Earth everyone, kinda) Once they're old enough not to act like 'cry babies' feel free to let them in.

[KFinTx]

Fancy steak restaurants is no place for babies or anyone under 16.

 

I disagree on excluding all those under 16. Babies & toddlers, sure. But my parents would take us out to eat at a local "fancy steak restaurant" as a treat & reward for good behavior. Many parents do teach their kids how to act in public; why should those kids get banned from the steakhouse because of parents who think it's cute for their kids to act like baboons?

[Boston Bill]

Absolutely there should not be a ban on kids at the steakhouse. Does Ruth's Criss ban kids? NO! Carnivals steakhouse is certainly no fancier than Ruth's Criss. Geez people...treating the Carnival steakhouse like its dining with the queen.

 

I am so glad you said this as I had read so many of the 954 comments on Mr John Healds Facebook page that said no kids. I had planned taking my 2 kids aged 7 and 10 when we cruise Legend but was nervous after reading so many negatives.

[kdkinsel]

I believe the entire problem here is the parents. Have they not learned that in polite socoety, you do not allowed children of any age, disrupta a dining experience. As a child I was taken out and paddled but good! When a baby is out of control, he needs something. Whether it is discipline or just taking him off to hisself for an extra bit of attention. As a parent and now a Grandparent, I taught my children how to be have when they were out. It works too.

[Boston Bill]

So all kids under 16 act like goats?

I would rather spend my dinner with a whole room full of those so-called "goats" than have to share my table with an adult with a stick up his ***!

While a non stop crying baby can be annoying, it happens. And yes, the parents should have had the good sense to remove the baby from the restaurant. BUT we weren't there to hear how loud the baby was or for how long he or she was actually crying. AND John Heald's fb page is famous for people griping to get something for nothing.

How do we even know this happened the way this guy says it did?

Have you read the things people complain about to get refunds?

No kids under 16? Please! I've seen lots of adults who act way worse than kids under 16.

BTW, Carnival is a FAMILY cruiseline and a $35. steak house isn't exactly the Ritz.

 

 

I am new to all this so can I ask what you mean by John Healds page is famous for getting something for nothing. He will be the entertainment director on our cruise an he seems to be a topic of conversation lo here. Thank you

[Wanna_Cruise]

"Some" kids can handle the steakhouse experience, just like some can handle "tea time". The fact that you paid extra, although an extra reason to be upset, is not really the point, to me. We were in the MDR one year when the parents set their kids, (all 8 of them, I am assuming it was several families traveling together) and they were across the room from them. Guess who had the bad luck to be seated at the next table? Do you know how far a Carnival roll will fly? About as far as my lap at the next table if I had the bad luck and slow reflexes to knock it to the floor. My own granddaughter (9) sitting at our table had eyes as big as saucers and her mouth wide open as she stared obviously embarrassed by the kids table. Some things are just too much to ignore, no matter where you are or how much you paid.

[twinzzz]

We have always taken our sons out for "fancy" steakhouse dinners as long as I can remember. However, when they were younger and learning the ropes of fine dining etiquette we would bring various distraction tools to keep them occupied (ie. Coloring pages and crayons, or doodle dots on an ipod).

[fergusonvt]

When our son was little one of us would leave and deal with it until the fussing was done. That's what these parents should have done. Yes screaming children drive me to drink but setting an age limit excludes children who are well behaved and the parents who have the skills to deal with those who aren't. In my opinion this was an extreme case and I don't think it warrants any compensation to the Facebook poter.

 

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[raylene5]

I am so glad you said this as I had read so many of the 954 comments on Mr John Healds Facebook page that said no kids. I had planned taking my 2 kids aged 7 and 10 when we cruise Legend but was nervous after reading so many negatives.

 

Yeah, don't pay any attention to them. As long as your kids are well behaved, then you're fine. I don't know if you've ever been in Carnivals steakhouse but its really not THAT fancy...I don't even think its fancier than the regular dining room.

 

We've always brought our kids with us to nice restaurants (I can't think of a single restaurant we've ever been to where kids weren't allowed and we've been to several $100+/person restaurants) and we've never once had any issues with behavior.

 

It's always been my philosophy that if they're not my kids, what the heck do I care what they do? I'm always so happy to not have to stress over my own kids when I'm without them that it doesn't phase me in the least how other people's kids are behaving. I wish a lot of other people could look at the situation in the same way.

[Tbay-eh]

Just so you know, a teenager knows how to behave in a restaruant and a teenage boy has an eating capacity that is beyond reason sometimes, but it's not their fault, they are teenagers. They eat. But I haven't really seen one eating food off the floor like a goat. Why 16? My 20 something, is trained to eat a full meal in 10 minutes. First thing he learned in boot camp. Should he not be allowed, because he can devour a steak in 2 minutes? :cool:

 

I have learned a lot of things over the years but learned as an adult to tone it down - so you snort down food in boot camp does not mean he has to do it in the steak house or dining room. I have a friend who is like that and we love to spend time with him but we will not eat with him, it is embarrassing. Why would you want to spend good money when he would not even taste a morsel of food - he would just sit there and watch everyone else leisurely eat for the next 2 hours- boring

[raylene5]

Again, Disney is a FAMILY cruise line and it doesn't allow children in their steakhouse.

 

And for those that talk about how children need to learn how to behave in restaurants, you are absolutely right! The MDR is a great way for children to learn manners--putting your napkin in your lap, using utensils correctly, sitting nicely at the table, etc.

 

I think there is a big difference. Disney caters to kids and most of the ship is specifically for them. There aren't many places for adults to be alone so Disney makes up for this by offering them an adults only restaurant. Carnival however has several options for adults to be around adults only including the casino, serenity deck, etc... Also, there just aren't nearly as many kids on a carnival ship as would be on a Disney ship so there isn't as much a "need" to escape from them.

 

On a Carnival ship, there just aren't going to be many kids in the specialty restaurants anyway. I'm sure you can all suffer having a few in your presence for an hour or so while you eat.

[Bobblefrog]

I wish the poll had another option - which was simply that the restaurant manager would ask those that were causing a disturbance to leave. I've worked in restaurants - hello - that's one of the unhappy duties of the manager. The baby wasn't the problem, the parents were the ones that were the problem. It might just as well have been a drunk ruining everyone else's meal. So I agree that a policy isn't necessary. Just better management. I can't believe JH even had to ask! Oh yeah, he's got to keep his page active and busy.

 

All that said I also wouldn't have a problem with it being more adults only - not because I don't want kids in the steakhouse, but I am thinking of it from another angle. Don't you all remember being a kid and having something to look forward to when you grew up? Something you got to do as an adult you couldn't do as a kid. Something mom and dad got to do because they were "grown ups". Used to be things like wearing make up or your first high heels. Now what is there? Kids grow up so fast. Besides drinking and being eligible for the draft, there's not much of a line anymore. Kind of sad. Having a place you can't just go into makes it special, more of mystery - and you respect it more once you get there. But that is a cultural thing. A parenting thing. Etc. It's certainly not something as a business I would want to try to set a policy on!

 

So ultimately no, an age policy doesn't make sense. A policy against disruptive behavior does.

[The4Cruisers]

Maybe they can have an early bird for all ages and then a second seating for adults.

[Chirpbird]

I would like them to open it up to families for the first couple of hours and After that limit it 16 or older.

 

That way you would have the option of dining with whatever group you prefer

This is a good answer. I think that would be a fair way to go.

[itravelalot]

I would not like an age limit unless like one person said no children after 8:30pm...

 

I just got off the Disney Wonder and my biggest pet peeve was that if we wanted to have a nice dinner (quiet) we had to exclude our son (9) and dine in Palo, Adults Only... My son has been traveling with us since he was 7 months old and he has and does behave better than some adults (loud and unruly).

 

I would hate to have a policy that excludes children who know how to behave in a restaurant and in life.:)

[hayesktrm]

I think there is a big difference. Disney caters to kids and most of the ship is specifically for them. There aren't many places for adults to be alone so Disney makes up for this by offering them an adults only restaurant. Carnival however has several options for adults to be around adults only including the casino, serenity deck, etc... Also, there just aren't nearly as many kids on a carnival ship as would be on a Disney ship so there isn't as much a "need" to escape from them.

 

On a Carnival ship, there just aren't going to be many kids in the specialty restaurants anyway. I'm sure you can all suffer having a few in your presence for an hour or so while you eat.

 

It doesn't look like you've been on a Disney cruise...I have. They have a wonderful adults only pool area and spa, as well as an adults only restaurant. I actually didn't notice the kids much more than Carnival because they were all so happy in the kids' club. The only adults only thing they don't have that carnival does have is a casino...but they do have the adults only restaurant.

[boaterette]

How about having two nights a week where in the Steakhouse is open to families and the other nights it is adult only. I don't eat late and do enjoy the steakhouse. But I do not wish to dine with Children while in the Steakhouse. The MDR is fine with kids because it is usually always loud anyway.

[KPfromCT]

I read the story on his FB page, and I too, would be annoyed. When our daughter was younger, and cried in a restaurant, one of us would take her out. I would NEVER sit there and let her scream!!!!! She is now 14 and not an issue anymore, but honestly, I would not want to go out to a nice restaurant and have to listen to OTHER peoples kids screaming, and they could care less. It would really PISS me off. :D:D

[JKrise]

I am one for adults only dining at the steakhouse.

 

 

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[sharecruises]

I just saw a post on Facebook from John Heald stating a man was upset because he went for a nice dinner at the steakhouse and there was a baby crying and nothing was done. So, would you have a minimum age requirement? Disney had that when we cruised with them and it was wonderful. I would not be happy to pay $35/pp and have to listen to that. IMHO, that is no place for a small baby.

 

Agreed ! And ...IF they do not do the right thing and put an age limit, the managers of the steakhouse should make the baby's family be removed

 

Just unreal ....I feel like going in to the kids club and playing with the dolls

and I want my face painted like a kitty cat ...why not...: no age restrictions: