Chief yak Posted June 8, 2013 #126 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Agreed. I look forward to seeing if there is anything which causes me to say "I'd like to see that"! Tom If Carnival expects us to get to Diamond will need me to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickCruiser Posted June 8, 2013 #127 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I have not been keeping track, so can anyone tell me what the plans are for their next new - not overhauled - ship are? Aside from likely having a low passenger space ratio, any specifics? It's certainly less expensive to make a "new" ship from an old one, "Greener" I suppose too, though you can only do so much. I wonder why some lines can make major changes, and yet acknowledge that it's still the same ship. RCI's Enchantment of the Seas comes to mind (was, and still is, the Enchantment): Was Carnival the first to try and pass off a (major) dry docked cruise ship as "new"? Tom Cool pic of that ship being sliced-n-diced. But RCI does make note that the ships are "new" on their site, even tho they don't change the name. I am indifferent in the thought of misleading marketing b/c I do my research before spending my money. But it's still the same....marketing an older, modified ship as new. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted June 8, 2013 #128 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Cool pic of that ship being sliced-n-diced. But RCI does make note that the ships are "new" on their site, even tho they don't change the name. I am indifferent in the thought of misleading marketing b/c I do my research before spending my money. But it's still the same....marketing an older, modified ship as new. :-) Thanks! Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted June 8, 2013 #129 Share Posted June 8, 2013 We are thinking about a Cruise on the Carnival Sunshine in May 2014, I heard it was re-done somewhat. any good things about the ship. I guess I can check to compare it to the Glory, Dream or Magic. We have been on them. thanks:D You won't recognize it. It's a great ship. I'm doing a photo review here: http://www.boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1845665 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted June 8, 2013 #130 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Cool pic of that ship being sliced-n-diced. But RCI does make note that the ships are "new" on their site, even tho they don't change the name. I am indifferent in the thought of misleading marketing b/c I do my research before spending my money. But it's still the same....marketing an older, modified ship as new. :-) Hardly misleading. Carnival has been running for several months information, videos, etc on the transformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted June 8, 2013 #131 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Hardly misleading. Carnival has been running for several months information, videos, etc on the transformation. Renaming an (old) ship and labeling it as NEW on their website... You say that's "Hardly misleading" ! :eek: For the record, are you aware of any other cruise line which has renamed a ship (not talking about a ship transferred to another line)? Thanks, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted June 8, 2013 #132 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I don't know if they are still in business, but an operator known as RCCL has done it and another operator known as NCL. There are others. Stena seems to do it at the drop of a hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDIP Posted June 8, 2013 #133 Share Posted June 8, 2013 It does seem like Carnival has fallen way, way behind NCL and RCCL on innovation. Interesting to see what their new ships will have. Carnival has new ships coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafig Posted June 8, 2013 #134 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I thought Destiny was a nice name. Why did they change it? They could have still called it the New Destiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted June 9, 2013 #135 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Never heard of Stena (guess I live under one of those bridges). Do you happen to have before/after names of those RCCL or NCL which have gone through "the change"? Just for my own edification... Tom Costa Romantica Costa Eugenio C Costa Enrico C Costa Amerikanis Cunard Vistafjord Cunard Saxonia RCCL Nordic Empress NCL Seaward NCL Dreamward Princess - Tahitian Princess Viking River Cruises - Viking Burgandy The always popular Holiday Kreuzfahrten Lili Marleen there are more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ4 Posted June 9, 2013 Author #136 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Carnival has new ships coming? Just one. A couple of years away. via Tapatalk 4 Beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted June 9, 2013 #137 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Most of the people complaining have never been on Carnival Sunshine. :eek: Im beginning to think people just like to complain. It doesnt matter what, they just want to find something to be negative about. I went over to the Quatum boards which have a special area and the worst thread is the one called why are you dissapointed in the Quantum. The main complaint I see are things like, "it took too long from the time they announced the name to when they started to reveal the ship". How can the thread be two pages long when not one person is dissapointed in the ship itself, just the way its being revealed? The ship isn't even built yet and the people are complaining because they don't know things. I like the Carnival boards better. I think there are less negative Debby Downers over here. At least there are more newbies over here excited to cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted June 9, 2013 #138 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Costa RomanticaCosta Eugenio C Costa Enrico C Costa Amerikanis Cunard Vistafjord Cunard Saxonia RCCL Nordic Empress NCL Seaward NCL Dreamward Princess - Tahitian Princess Viking River Cruises - Viking Burgandy The always popular Holiday Kreuzfahrten Lili Marleen there are more. Before/after ... I can't really make this out from your list. (Not trying to be picky... REALLY!) Did the Seaward become the Dreamward? I was not thinking along the lines of river cruises, though Cheryl tells me we're doing that down the road! :) Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted June 9, 2013 #139 Share Posted June 9, 2013 ...I like the Carnival boards better. I think there are less negative Debby Downers over here. At least there are more newbies over here excited to cruise. You could be on to something! Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted June 9, 2013 #140 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Before/after ... I can't really make this out from your list. (Not trying to be picky... REALLY!) Did the Seaward become the Dreamward? I was not thinking along the lines of river cruises, though Cheryl tells me we're doing that down the road! :) Tom http://www.cruise-ships.com/cruiseships/renamed/sort/crew/ Seaward - > Norwegian Sea Dreamward -> Norwegian Nightmare, um Dream what happened to all the NCL ships that once were doing Hawaii? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy cruzin Posted June 9, 2013 #141 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I have not been keeping track, so can anyone tell me what the plans are for their next new - not overhauled - ship are? Aside from likely having a low passenger space ratio, any specifics? It's certainly less expensive to make a "new" ship from an old one, "Greener" I suppose too, though you can only do so much. I wonder why some lines can make major changes, and yet acknowledge that it's still the same ship. RCI's Enchantment of the Seas comes to mind (was, and still is, the Enchantment): Was Carnival the first to try and pass off a (major) dry docked cruise ship as "new"? Tom Ok...so now I am curious! What class of ship is the Sunshine?? :confused: I ask - because between this Destiny to Sunshine "transformation" and the 2.0 upgrades that have been done on some ships - and not others - I am finding it more and more difficult to figure out which ships have which things. Used to be that if you booked a particular class you kinda knew what was there...fish and chips on the Conquest Class, for instance. But that is no longer the case - even with in a class! :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted June 9, 2013 #142 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Ok...so now I am curious! What class of ship is the Sunshine?? :confused: I ask - because between this Destiny to Sunshine "transformation" and the 2.0 upgrades that have been done on some ships - and not others - I am finding it more and more difficult to figure out which ships have which things. Used to be that if you booked a particular class you kinda knew what was there...fish and chips on the Conquest Class, for instance. But that is no longer the case - even with in a class! :o Destiny was a class of 1 as is Sunshine with the Sunshine Class. Those who claim to have cruised on all Carnival ships now have one more to go. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted June 9, 2013 #143 Share Posted June 9, 2013 http://www.cruise-ships.com/cruiseships/renamed/sort/crew/ Seaward - > Norwegian Sea Dreamward -> Norwegian Nightmare, um Dream what happened to all the NCL ships that once were doing Hawaii? Thanks for the link. Interesting site - though you'd think under a section about renamed ships that they'd have both names cited! I do recall the NCL Pride of Hawaii rename (to the Jade), now that you mention it. Of course the ship was named with the intent of it sailing around the Hawaiian islands. When that did not work out well for NCL, they moved it to Europe. Guess it made sense to rename it in that case! Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted June 9, 2013 #144 Share Posted June 9, 2013 ...Those who claim to have cruised on all Carnival ships now have one more to go. :) :D Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjn911 Posted June 9, 2013 #145 Share Posted June 9, 2013 LargeCornGyro, Thanks for your input...Sarah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannockfrodo Posted June 9, 2013 #146 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Pretty cool pictures of the shipNot crazy about the Atrium art stuff though. Usually Carnival goes over the top for their atriums. Never saw a library bar before. Great idea but people love to talk and drink. Wonder how well the concept works. It doesn't, the bar is mis-named. It should be the games bar, while there is a bookcase and comfy chairs there are also games and game/card tables along with the inescapable piped music. The bar maid is a very good one tho, lovely girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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