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Very interesting article "Passengers gone overboard"

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Bunkie103

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For the life of me, I can't imagine HOW you manage to FALL off a cruise ship! I have been known to be a klutz now and then, but still, can't see it happening. It's almost like falling into an above-ground pool (one that doesn't have a deck around it). :eek:

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The guy who was found is very lucky. But he claims that he was looking for a friend in the casino and then he woke up in the water. With no pants or shoes? I think it's likely that he was drinking, got to his room, started to get undressed, walked out onto his balcony for air and fell overboard. Odd story. But lucky man.

 

It's all very sad when people disappear. But I'm just curious as to how it could happen. Maybe they need to make the railings higher, or put in some kind of nets.

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cherski

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Check out Skinny Dip by Carl Hiassen. It was published last year and is an absolute scream. It starts out with someone going overboard (and losing all her clothes) and just gets funnier with each page.

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Earthworm Jim

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The article makes a big deal about 8 people falling off Carnival ships last year, but if you take the combined capacity of the Carnival ships they mention, 48,000, and assume an average cruise length of 7 days (almost surely too high), that works out to 2.5M passengers last year.

 

(I'm sure the real numbers are readily avaiable if I knew where to look, but 2.5M is a good enough rough estimate for my purposes)

 

So 8 people out of $2.5M. That's only one out of every 312,000 pasengers. And you also have to take into account that some of those 8 overboard were likely intentional, i.e., suicides.

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The article makes a big deal about 8 people falling off Carnival ships last year, but if you take the combined capacity of the Carnival ships they mention, 48,000, and assume an average cruise length of 7 days (almost surely too high), that works out to 2.5M passengers last year.

 

(I'm sure the real numbers are readily avaiable if I knew where to look, but 2.5M is a good enough rough estimate for my purposes)

 

So 8 people out of $2.5M. That's only one out of every 312,000 pasengers. And you also have to take into account that some of those 8 overboard were likely intentional, i.e., suicides.

 

The best example of CRITICAL THINKING I've seen on these boards for some time. Logic: thinking with all the B. S. removed.

 

Kuddos, Jim.

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derf5585

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The numbers break down as follows: 8,870,901 North American passengers sailed on CLIA-member line ships in 2004,

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http://www.cruising.org/CruiseNews/news.cfm?NID=196

 

Nearly 8 million people took cruises in 2003; about 10.5 million are expected to cruise this year, according to the Cruise Line Industry Association

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http://semissourian.rustcom.net/story/150232.html

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big_duck

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The article makes a big deal about 8 people falling off Carnival ships last year, but if you take the combined capacity of the Carnival ships they mention, 48,000, and assume an average cruise length of 7 days (almost surely too high), that works out to 2.5M passengers last year.

 

(I'm sure the real numbers are readily avaiable if I knew where to look, but 2.5M is a good enough rough estimate for my purposes)

 

So 8 people out of $2.5M. That's only one out of every 312,000 pasengers. And you also have to take into account that some of those 8 overboard were likely intentional, i.e., suicides.

 

Excellent analysis but you need to re-work the numbers. According to the last Currents Magazine 3.3 million cruised Carnival last year.

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LunaC

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I have a friend that was one of these statistics from last year and was never found. For the life of me, I can't figure out how someone would fall overboard but I'll guess and say alcohol was involved. That's a scary thought when so many of us drink onboard but the chances are so slim!

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Tigergurl

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Ok, I don't get this. If someone was to go overboard, wouldn't there be a more likely chance that the propellers of the ship would suck them under and well.. (if I scare anybody by finishing this, please forgive me) kill them? Maybe I've just been watching "Speed 2: Cruise Control" way too much and need to watch something else

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sotadragon

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Ok, I don't get this. If someone was to go overboard, wouldn't there be a more likely chance that the propellers of the ship would suck them under and well.. (if I scare anybody by finishing this, please forgive me) kill them? Maybe I've just been watching "Speed 2: Cruise Control" way too much and need to watch something else

I'm not sure, but I think they'd have to go pretty far under the surface right away for that to happen since the propellers are rather far down and the ship is usually moving at a good 18 knots. Can anyone clarify this?

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Capt_BJ

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I'm not sure, but I think they'd have to go pretty far under the surface right away for that to happen since the propellers are rather far down and the ship is usually moving at a good 18 knots. Can anyone clarify this?

 

Will the screws get ya? As noted they are pretty far down. Question is will you be conscious? Look at today's cruise ship. How long of a fall is it? Ever gone off a high dive and hit the water wrong? Every gone off a high high high dive...7 or 8 stories high? And then cuz you fell you hit the water wrong....

 

Won't matter if the screws hit ya cuz few float well when knocked out cold with maybe a broken back or neck....and the wind kicked out of your lungs....and was the water temp 85 like in the Carib' or more like 50 or less .... AK cruise anyone?

 

Best advice - don't go there :rolleyes: do not sit on the rail. No not even LEAN ON the rail. This recommendation from one who has spent a bit of time sailing in the Bearing Sea in the winter.... One hand for the ship at all times and never trust a life line.

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Earthworm Jim

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This recommendation from one who has spent a bit of time sailing in the Bearing Sea in the winter.... One hand for the ship at all times and never trust a life line.

 

Wow, the Bering Sea in winter. Now THAT's a place where you could find yourself overboard in the blink of an eye, and into damn cold water in the process.

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Earthworm Jim

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Excellent analysis but you need to re-work the numbers. According to the last Currents Magazine 3.3 million cruised Carnival last year.

 

O.K., 8 people out of 3.3M equals one person out of every 412,000 goes overboard, some of them intentionally. And that was in what was considered a bad year for such incidents.

 

But the point is the same as it was even with my original numbers: It doesn't happen often. It's probably more dangerous to cross a city street.

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Capt_BJ

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Please tell us more about the AMERIKANISE

 

operated by Costa out of Miami....would have been about 1981....I could have the spelling wrong, I ought to find the pictures.

 

first cruise we went on - spousal unit got it for free - she did the books for Miami travel agent and they gave her a weekend cruise for 2

 

ship was OLD and worth every penny we paid for the trip!

 

This was b4 the industry exploded ....

 

I have no idea what the ship's name was b4, nor recall how long it was around. But I do recall wondering if the life boats could be lowered as all the running gear was painted over with many coats of rust tainted paint.

 

We liked the adventure tho, and subsequently got a number of free rides on Caribe of Commodore Line over a couple of years 'til we moved.

 

What's the best cruise? A FREE cruise.

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