Balcony Smokers Poll

[Out to sea!]

Non-smokers, you are free to read and post here but this thread is meant for balcony smokers who still have the privileged to smoke on their balconies until October 9th.

 

Balcony Smokers, considering the new rules that take effect on October 9th and some of the responses from the non-smoking side in several of the threads here, for those who do have a balcony on a Carnival ship between now and October 9th, do you plan to be (or still be) a considerate smoker and put out your smoke at the request of a non-smoking balcony neighbor or do you just plan on saying to hell with them and light up every chance you get since this will be your last time to do so on Carnival?

 

Oh, and yes, I made the votes public so that non-smokers who think about skewing the results would be seen.

Edited July 10, 2014 by Out to sea!

[Barbee524]

My cruise leaves October 12:eek: But if I was going the week before I'd say to heck with them and smoke on my balcony up until midnight on October 9th. And how strange is it to change the policy in the middle of a cruise?

[JLee1973]

Does it take effect mid cruise. I thought it read new cruises departing on our after Oct. 9. I could be wrong but if that is how it reads and you leave Oct 8, I world think you could smoke the entire cruise.

 

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[Out to sea!]

Does it take effect mid cruise. I thought it read new cruises departing on our after Oct. 9. I could be wrong but if that is how it reads and you leave Oct 8, I world think you could smoke the entire cruise.

 

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I believe that is correct. Cruises leaving on 9 October or after are subject to the new rules. Any cruise leaving 8 October or earlier are subject to the old rules.

[celticd1]

I don't have a cruise booked til after the ban goes into effect but if I did I would smoke as much and as often as I could. If asked by a balcony neighbor to put it out I would explain that they have over 90% of the ship to enjoy smoke free so leave me and my 35 sq feet of smoking area alone.

 

I am already downgrading from a balcony to an inside for my next cruise and I am just waiting to see how bad the complaining gets once the anti-smokers see all the smokers crammed on the Lido and in the casino. This is what they wanted I guess. :rolleyes:

[babyher]

Well I don't smoke until the cows come home anyway. But the few I do have on my balcony on a cruise (in the morning with coffee, while I am waiting for DW to get ready for dinner , and one maybe two before bed ) . I would just enjoy out there as I always have

[Gypsywych]

As saddened as I am to be leaving Carnival due to the change, our September cruise will be our last. We knew it was coming, but I really thought after the backlash when they stopped allowing smoking in the cabins, that they would give more notice and treat their smoking guests with more respect.

 

.... but with that said, I will be polite to my neighbors about my smoking as long as they are polite to me.

[HawkIVette]

About 50- 50 at this time. I am not a smoker, but I commend the 50% that use there right to smoke and respect the rights of others who do not smoke. Thank You. I believe everybody has the right to do what they want (smoke'm if you got'em), including the ones who don't wan to be bothered by the smoke.

 

I got to add, that smoking on the balconies has never bothered me. Once that I can remember, I was on the balcony and smoke was coming up from below me. I just went back inside and used my right to fresh air on an upper deck. Not a problem.

Edited July 10, 2014 by HawkIVette

[cruzn buckeye]

i am a non-smoker and grew up in a house where both parents smoked. One of them died at age 61 from smoking related illness.

I am not "verbal" or "inconsiderate" of smokers. So please don't group all nonsmokers together.

The way I feel is, if you want to smoke, that is your choice. And it is my choice not to smoke. Therefore, for the person that said they will smoke on their balcony and the nonsmoker can find somewhere else, if they don't like it... that is being inconsiderate. Personally, I love having coffee early in the morning on the balcony... and enjoy being out there while we are at sea. I just can't understand why something such as no smoking on the balcony would cause someone to cancel a cruise.. if they truly like to cruise. But then again, if they are switching to a line that does allow it... I understand that too. It's what they want, and they are entitled to it. This is one of those situations where not everyone will be happy, either way.

I will say that the morning I went out on my balcony, and found a cigarette butt, that had obviously blown back on my balcony after someone above tossed it over, it made me very nervous about cigarettes on the balconies. Fire at sea is very dangerous.

In response to the poll, I think it is wrong to ask people if they will puff away and disturb their neighbors that are non smokers... only for the reason that... not all nonsmokers are disrepectful towards the feelings of smokers.

Why do this to someone who had nothing to do with the decision that was made for a comfort of all guests and safety reasons.

Edited July 10, 2014 by cruzn buckeye

[Out to sea!]

As saddened as I am to be leaving Carnival due to the change, our September cruise will be our last. We knew it was coming, but I really thought after the backlash when they stopped allowing smoking in the cabins, that they would give more notice and treat their smoking guests with more respect.

 

.... but with that said, I will be polite to my neighbors about my smoking as long as they are polite to me.

 

And that is very kind of you. Personally, I would have thought there would be a greater percentage that would have said to hell with kindness, but maybe the ones that are really mad are the ones with balconies booked after October 9th instead of before it.

[Gypsywych]

And that is very kind of you. Personally, I would have thought there would be a greater percentage that would have said to hell with kindness, but maybe the ones that are really mad are the ones with balconies booked after October 9th instead of before it.

 

No, I'm really mad and disappointed by Carnival. So much that we canceled 3 other cruises that were scheduled after October 9. They may not miss my money, but that's how you show businesses that you are unhappy with them. Take your dollars elsewhere. I told Carnival that in an email and told NCL why I was moving my cruising dollars to them. If enough people do both, I think Carnival will understand what they are losing.

 

The people next door to me? They are just like me, trying to enjoy their cruise too. I don't blame anyone for not liking the smell of smoke and I'm not trying to run anyone off of their balcony. I'm just trying to coexist so we can all cruise.

:)

[hartsnvt]

Your 2 choices are at the extreme opposite ends of the spectrum. Why no happy medium choice? I have a cruise in August in a balcony and I am a smoker. I have never heard any complaints from my neighbors and if they had said something I would have come up with a solution to please us both, (if possible). I will not smoke until the cows come home or be banned from smoking by a neighbor. We get up very early and have a couple with coffee and maybe one while getting ready for dinner and a couple before bedtime at 10pm. SInce there are few tables on Lido I do expect to see (after 10/9) a very crowded lido deck and Casino bar . I am sure even more complaining will ensue and smoking will be banned shipwide. We will just have to see how this affects CCLs bottom line. I do know that until NCL bans it I will happily cruise with them as my last cruise on the Pearl was the best I ever had. I cruise CCL because I live 25 minutes from Port Canaveral. So we will just have to drive to Miami until NCL ports a ship at PC in 2015.

[silvercrikhix]

We used to smoke and were never asked not to by neighbors.

Others smoking does not bother us.

This is mostly baloney about all the smoke choking others out.

Not to say that it never happens.

 

It takes 5-8 minutes to smoke a cig.

The anti-smoking bulldog neighbors could be out most of the time if they wanted, but most of them would rather whine and snivel & shove their opinions down others throats.

[Out to sea!]

Your 2 choices are at the extreme opposite ends of the spectrum. Why no happy medium choice? I have a cruise in August in a balcony and I am a smoker. I have never heard any complaints from my neighbors and if they had said something I would have come up with a solution to please us both, (if possible). I will not smoke until the cows come home or be banned from smoking by a neighbor. We get up very early and have a couple with coffee and maybe one while getting ready for dinner and a couple before bedtime at 10pm. SInce there are few tables on Lido I do expect to see (after 10/9) a very crowded lido deck and Casino bar . I am sure even more complaining will ensue and smoking will be banned shipwide. We will just have to see how this affects CCLs bottom line. I do know that until NCL bans it I will happily cruise with them as my last cruise on the Pearl was the best I ever had. I cruise CCL because I live 25 minutes from Port Canaveral. So we will just have to drive to Miami until NCL ports a ship at PC in 2015.

 

Because in reality, the choices I posted are really the only answers. You sit on on your balcony, smoking a cig and your neighbor comes out, starts fake coughing up a storm and demands you put it out. You either comply (answer B) or don't comply (answer A). Even if you come up with something like when they come out, you leave, you are still complying (answer B). Adding more options (and I can;t think of any other options that aren't in reality either A or B) just muddies up the poll. Plus, I'm a black or white kinda guy and trying to find something in the middle just usually ends up pissing both people off.

 

It's funny how you consider a Yes/No question extreme opposites. Of course Yes/No are opposite but how are they extreme?

 

Yes, it is a shame that NCL doesn't sail out of PC. I live only an hour away myself and it's a much easier port to get through than Miami.

[Philly Steve]

In the past, I would have a smoke on the balcony if I did not hear activity on nearby balconies. If someone else was in the area, I would switch to an e-cigg.

[Out to sea!]

In the past, I would have a smoke on the balcony if I did not hear activity on nearby balconies. If someone else was in the area, I would switch to an e-cigg.

 

You do understand, immaterial of the differences between an ecig and a cig, that ecigs are classified as cigs and follow the same rules on Carnival?

[Havingfun2010]

Non-smokers, you are free to read and post here but this thread is meant for balcony smokers who still have the privileged to smoke on their balconies until October 9th.

 

Balcony Smokers, considering the new rules that take effect on October 9th and some of the responses from the non-smoking side in several of the threads here, for those who do have a balcony on a Carnival ship between now and October 9th, do you plan to be (or still be) a considerate smoker and put out your smoke at the request of a non-smoking balcony neighbor or do you just plan on saying to hell with them and light up every chance you get since this will be your last time to do so on Carnival?

 

Oh, and yes, I made the votes public so that non-smokers who think about skewing the results would be seen.

 

Polls like this, only give smokers more of a bad name. Your poll does opposite of what is intended. Smokers just need to deal with the facts, that their habit, is no liked, and they just need to go to a private place, and puff away.

[lisanjosh]

Polls like this, only give smokers more of a bad name. Your poll does opposite of what is intended. Smokers just need to deal with the facts, that their habit, is no liked, and they just need to go to a private place, and puff away.

 

 

How can you get any more private than our balcony? Now we have to go to a PUBLIC place

[ObstructedView2]

 

Polls like this, only give smokers more of a bad name. Your poll does

opposite of what is intended. Smokers just need to deal with the facts,

that their habit, is no liked, and they just need to go to a private place,

and puff away.

 

I agree! They are embarrassing themselves at this point. Moreover, they are

becoming an embarrassment to this website.

 

The new smoking policy https://www.goccl.com/~/media/Files/Irman/bookccl/shipboard_knowledge/SmokingPolicy.htm

is here to stay. They need to GET OVER IT, they need to ADAPT and

move forward.

 

:)

[Gypsywych]

I agree! They are embarrassing themselves at this point. Moreover, they are

becoming an embarrassment to this website.

 

The new smoking policy https://www.goccl.com/~/media/Files/Irman/bookccl/shipboard_knowledge/SmokingPolicy.htm

is here to stay. They need to GET OVER IT, they need to ADAPT and

move forward.

 

:)

 

Please explain why and how I've embarrassed myself so I know which shade of red I should turn.

[billymatt]

I agree! They are embarrassing themselves at this point. Moreover, they are

becoming an embarrassment to this website.

 

The new smoking policy https://www.goccl.com/~/media/Files/Irman/bookccl/shipboard_knowledge/SmokingPolicy.htm

is here to stay. They need to GET OVER IT, they need to ADAPT and

move forward.

 

:)

Yes, heaven forbid that people should actually use a cruise message board forum to discuss their frustration with a cruise line's policy change. . .and with appropriate keywords in the thread title so that those not inclined to discuss can avoid the thread. What an embarrassment!!!

 

Please explain why and how I've embarrassed myself so I know which shade of red I should turn.

LOLOL

#REKT

[lisanjosh]

I agree! They are embarrassing themselves at this point. Moreover, they are

becoming an embarrassment to this website.

 

The new smoking policy https://www.goccl.com/~/media/Files/Irman/bookccl/shipboard_knowledge/SmokingPolicy.htm

is here to stay. They need to GET OVER IT, they need to ADAPT and

move forward.

 

:)

 

I'm not embarrassed.....anyone else?

[lisanjosh]

Yes, heaven forbid that people should actually use a cruise message board forum to discuss their frustration with a cruise line's policy change. . .and with appropriate keywords in the thread title so that those not inclined to discuss can avoid the thread. What an embarrassment!!!

 

 

LOLOL

#REKT

 

 

The non-smokers don't approve.....guess we can't talk about it anymore. Ya know, they are in charge here

:rolleyes:

[Mom33]

Non-smokers, you are free to read and post here but this thread is meant for balcony smokers who still have the privileged to smoke on their balconies until October 9th.

 

Balcony Smokers, considering the new rules that take effect on October 9th and some of the responses from the non-smoking side in several of the threads here, for those who do have a balcony on a Carnival ship between now and October 9th, do you plan to be (or still be) a considerate smoker and put out your smoke at the request of a non-smoking balcony neighbor or do you just plan on saying to hell with them and light up every chance you get since this will be your last time to do so on Carnival?

 

Oh, and yes, I made the votes public so that non-smokers who think about skewing the results would be seen.

 

Non- smoker here and wondering what your vote is? You started the poll but I don't see your vote. ;)

[billymatt]

The non-smokers don't approve.....guess we can't talk about it anymore. Ya know, they are in charge here

:rolleyes:

 

I actually would prefer to differentiate between non-smokers and anti-smokers. I'm a non-smoker, and I must be one of the rare, lucky ones, because I've never had chain-smoking fiends hell-bent on destroying my vacation surrounding me on all sides when I've had a balcony cabin. Really, I've never been bothered at all by balcony smoking. If anything, I'm more annoyed at having to walk through the clouds of smoke at the designated smoking areas, something I forsee worsening now that all smoking will be confined to these. I hope the casino doesn't get too bad.

 

I got drawn into these threads just to see how people were reacting to the relatively short lead time for the change (3 months, when I personally have most of my travel/hotel reservations taken care of almost a year out). I stuck around to see the fighting, and was somewhat surprised to see that a lot (but not all) of the hateful, vitriolic posts were actually from anti-smokers toward smokers.

 

Now it appears that not only are smokers to be prevented from smoking in certain areas, but they are to be prevented from posting their thoughts about smoking too, under the pain of embarrassment. Pretty soon the Thought Police will have you under their control. :rolleyes:

 

To avoid this post being entirely off-purpose of the thread, I will weigh in and say that I can't blame any smoker for now not giving a [censored] about bothering anyone for smoking on their balconies while they can, but I'm also not surprised to see that 'still be courteous' is winning. :cool: