esimon Posted February 7, 2015 #1 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I know this is not a new question so I don't want this to go on and on LOL but... now that tipping is charged daily and billed at the end - can you break down for me who actually gets these tips thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted February 7, 2015 #2 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I'm willing to bet my 2015 cruise budget that no one on CC can answer your question fully. HAL and the union of the workers involved have come to an agreement, and those specifics have never been published, to my knowledge. I consider that it's not my business who gets what, so long as they accept the terms. Clearly the cabin and dining stewards get the lion's share, with some differences based on seniority. Pinnacle and Tamarind stewards also get a portion. There are behind the scenes people in the laundry, cleaners, the people who clean the public restrooms, cooks on the Lido line getting some of the service charge, too. The ones you can be sure aren't getting any of the service charge are the lounge stewards, bartenders, and those who serve wine. They get their "tips" from the service charge that's added to the bar bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted February 7, 2015 #3 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I'm curious why it would matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esimon Posted February 8, 2015 Author #4 Share Posted February 8, 2015 It mAtters or I wouldn't have asked but thanks for the curiosity. I want to make sure those that take care of us are getting their fareshare. I like the union concept. Didn't think of that. I will tip the room service folks. I do love my morning coffee!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PathfinderEss Posted February 8, 2015 #5 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) We tip extra to those that go beyond the norm to take care of us, so I guess in doing that we make sure those people get their fair share. Edited February 8, 2015 by PathfinderEss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted February 8, 2015 #6 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I'm willing to bet my 2015 cruise budget that no one on CC can answer your question fully. HAL and the union of the workers involved have come to an agreement, and those specifics have never been published, to my knowledge. I consider that it's not my business who gets what, so long as they accept the terms. Clearly the cabin and dining stewards get the lion's share, with some differences based on seniority. Pinnacle and Tamarind stewards also get a portion. There are behind the scenes people in the laundry, cleaners, the people who clean the public restrooms, cooks on the Lido line getting some of the service charge, too. The ones you can be sure aren't getting any of the service charge are the lounge stewards, bartenders, and those who serve wine. They get their "tips" from the service charge that's added to the bar bill. Yes, ^^ this. We know generally who is included in the tip pool but I doubt any of us CC'ers are completely clear what percentage goes to whom. I've never given it much thought. I do feel free to tip a bit extra to those who specifically have made our cruise more special. There are always some who go a bit over and above what they need to do and I like to show them appreciation. It is voluntary and not required, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare POA1 Posted February 8, 2015 #7 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I know this is not a new question so I don't want this to go on and on LOL but...now that tipping is charged daily and billed at the end - can you break down for me who actually gets these tips thank you I've never seen it defined specifically. It's a good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted February 8, 2015 #8 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) I've never seen it defined specifically. It's a good question. Some CDs used to toss out numbers like 35% to room stewards, 35% to MDR stewards and 30% to the back of the house. I haven't heard that in a few years, but those were probably averages at best. As RuthC said, seniority has to have some impact on exactly what % each worker draws from the pool. Some people used to protest in posts here that the MDR stewards shouldn't get anything from them because they eat all their meals in the Lido, or that the PG staff shouldn't get any part, because they never eat there. As Ruth said "it's not my business who gets what". . Edited February 8, 2015 by jtl513 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanita462 Posted February 8, 2015 #9 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I once asked a woman who cleaned the public washrooms about this - and her answer was " we all have managers who get the best deal they can for us and a contract - what we get is what is written in the contract - period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
take us away Posted February 8, 2015 #10 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Have also recently heard the 35% to your assigned dining steward, 35% to your room steward and 30% to the more unseen crew from a CD. Also for as you wish dining, the 35% is spread across all the stewards in that venue. I do like the 30% as it is nice to know the people who polish the brass, make the raisin buns and wash the dishes also gets a share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted February 8, 2015 #11 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Have also recently heard the 35% to your assigned dining steward, 35% to your room steward ... Of course in Open Seating you don't have an assigned steward, and they rotate between Open and Fixed. Most likely the assistant room and MDR stewards get less than the senior guy, so I think it's more accurate to say 35% of the pool goes to each group, but your individual steward may get more or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeta3 Posted February 8, 2015 #12 Share Posted February 8, 2015 What I don't understand is why people feel it is ok to quiz somebody as to how much money they make. I would find it rude and intrusive if my waiter or steward asked me how much money I made this year or what the breakdown of my compensation was so I would never think to do the same to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted February 8, 2015 #13 Share Posted February 8, 2015 What I don't understand is why people feel it is ok to quiz somebody as to how much money they make. When I asked the stewardess where the 15% went on pre-purchased beverages it wasn't to find out how much she makes, it was to determine whether it was better for them for me to buy on board rather than pre-order. The answer I got was that it didn't make any difference, it went into the bar pool in both cases. That is the opposite of what the OP of this thread heard, namely that it went into the HSC pool. However, I believe that there is some incentive for them to try to upsell you if you buy on board (suggest a bottle if you order a glass, or a multi-bottle package if your order just one) but I think the reward is non-monetary, like extra time off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare The-Inside-Cabin Posted February 8, 2015 #14 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Having lived in both the auto tip world of today and the envelope passing of yesterday - the big difference I see is in your interactions with the Stewards and waiters. Today - it is all business....which is fine...but not a lot of chatting...."Back in the Day" they really tried to chat you up a lot more.....I think I like today better....Service has been the same in both cases.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted February 8, 2015 #15 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) When I asked the stewardess where the 15% went on pre-purchased beverages ... Ignore this post! Wrong thread! I was thinking I was on the "Pre-purchased wine package" thread. :o:oHaving lived in both the auto tip world of today and the envelope passing of yesterday - the big difference I see is in your interactions with the Stewards and waiters. Today - it is all business....which is fine...but not a lot of chatting...."Back in the Day" they really tried to chat you up a lot more.....I think I like today better....Service has been the same in both cases.... I think a lot depends on where your table is, and what time of the evening it is. On our last cruise we had a table most nights that was in a back corner, near a steward station, at early Open seating. The waiter and assistant would frequently take a little break after they had deposited dirty dishes etc at the station, and turn and talk to us. Later when it got busier they probably couldn't do that as much. Edited February 8, 2015 by jtl513 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted February 8, 2015 #16 Share Posted February 8, 2015 When I asked the stewardess where the 15% went on pre-purchased beverages it wasn't to find out how much she makes, it was to determine whether it was better for them for me to buy on board rather than pre-order. The answer I got was that it didn't make any difference, it went into the bar pool in both cases. That is the opposite of what the OP of this thread heard, namely that it went into the HSC pool. However, I believe that there is some incentive for them to try to upsell you if you buy on board (suggest a bottle if you order a glass, or a multi-bottle package if your order just one) but I think the reward is non-monetary, like extra time off. I would expect the bar staff has some sort of quota expectation to sell. One could think they weren't 'doing their job' if the sales from one are far lower than from other bar staff. It's all about revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted February 8, 2015 #17 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Having lived in both the auto tip world of today and the envelope passing of yesterday - the big difference I see is in your interactions with the Stewards and waiters. Today - it is all business....which is fine...but not a lot of chatting...."Back in the Day" they really tried to chat you up a lot more.....I think I like today better....Service has been the same in both cases.... I think any diminishment in interaction with crew/stewards is due to lower staffing levels than anything else. Fewer people are doing the same amount of work as they did when there were more stewards who had time to chat with guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare The-Inside-Cabin Posted February 8, 2015 #18 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I sailed Princess last week for the first time in 5 years....service was slower than I recall in MDR, but everyone was working their tails off and flying around. I recall their used to be a head waiter for every 6 tables or so and he made the pasta right in the MDR....sounds like they cut way back....does anyone have any numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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