Has FDR done anything to benefit cruisers?

[NLH Arizona]

Obviously that is not the measuring stick NCL is using. Their actions clearly show that.

 

Do they have one or is this all sort of on the fly and off the cuff stuff?

 

What you have to realize, is even if Mr. Del Rio gave everyone a free cruise (passenger pays port fees only) that post on here, there will still be those unhappy posters saying it is not free because they have to pay port fees, so he is screwing them. Sure, NCL can lower their fares, but if they are filling their ships to their budgeted expectations, why should they.

[Moby0215]

That's what I look for and unfortunately I haven't seen the deals that you and NLH Arizona (and others) have seen. Maybe I will, but given the prices that I have seen I have my doubts.

 

 

Just go to the website, search for cruise, and sort by price. There you can see which cruises are the cheapest. They may not be dates or itineraries that you are looking for but this will give you an idea of the prices some people are saying are good deals.

 

 

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[sparks1093]

Obviously that is not the measuring stick NCL is using. Their actions clearly show that.

 

Do they have one or is this all sort of on the fly and off the cuff stuff?

 

My own opinion is there is too much on the fly/off the cuff stuff. NCL will roll something out and then after further consideration make changes that in hindsight should have been in place at the get go. (And in my experience that is a symptom of too much micro-mangement, one person making a decision without considering the input of others.)

Edited December 14, 2015 by sparks1093

[sparks1093]

Just go to the website, search for cruise, and sort by price. There you can see which cruises are the cheapest. They may not be dates or itineraries that you are looking for but this will give you an idea of the prices some people are saying are good deals.

 

 

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All well and good but if I can't take the cruise the low price is of no benefit to me at all.:)

Edited December 14, 2015 by sparks1093

[rg24601]

What you have to realize, is even if Mr. Del Rio gave everyone a free cruise (passenger pays port fees only) that post on here, there will still be those unhappy posters saying it is not free because they have to pay port fees, so he is screwing them. Sure, NCL can lower their fares, but if they are filling their ships to their budgeted expectations, why should they.

 

Perhaps.

 

and

 

They shouldn't. In fact I would expect them to raise prices across the board.

[rg24601]

Just go to the website, search for cruise, and sort by price. There you can see which cruises are the cheapest. They may not be dates or itineraries that you are looking for but this will give you an idea of the prices some people are saying are good deals.

 

 

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Well this would be of no benefit.

 

One man's paradise is another man's prison I guess. ;)

 

with credit to, luv2swimwdolphins

[NLH Arizona]

Perhaps.

 

and

 

They shouldn't. In fact I would expect them to raise prices across the board.

 

You are right, they shouldn't lower their prices even though that would be the only change that would please the most. As far as every other change, some will like, some will dislike and some won't care, but you will never find a consensus that one benefits all.

[MisterFidgetpants]

You are right, they shouldn't lower their prices even though that would be the only change that would please the most. As far as every other change, some will like, some will dislike and some won't care, but you will never find a consensus that one benefits all.

 

I'm still waiting to hear about any benefits FDR has brought to guests on NCL.

 

Shareholders, yes. Paying guests, ??

[mugtech]

All well and good but if I can't take the cruise the low price is of no benefit to me at all.:)

Suppose FDR lowers the price on bingo, would that benefit everyone? Now more than ever when I see "bingo":D I run the other direction.

[NLH Arizona]

I'm still waiting to hear about any benefits FDR has brought to guests on NCL.

 

Shareholders, yes. Paying guests, ??

 

I guess you didn't read some of the posts on this thread. Some mentioned changes that were a benefit to them. Just because you don't consider them a benefit, doesn't mean others don't.

[abe3]

So no.

 

 

 

Lowering cruise fares across the board would help everyone, would they not?

 

 

 

A 20% off sale, no restrictions, no exclusions, all cabins.

 

 

 

Or do the supporters think some should pay more in fares?

 

 

I haven't paid more.

[rg24601]

Suppose FDR lowers the price on bingo, would that benefit everyone? Now more than ever when I see "bingo":D I run the other direction.

 

Yes it would. As all those bingo players (and if free it will be packed) will allow you a less crowded area of the ship, apparently not the Escape, somewhere else. ;)

[abe3]

I'm still waiting to hear about any benefits FDR has brought to guests on NCL.

 

 

 

Shareholders, yes. Paying guests, ??

 

 

I am not a shareholder and I think he has done nothing to hurt the brand IMO. And think he is doing a fine job. Others might disagree but that's their opinion.

[NLH Arizona]

Suppose FDR lowers the price on bingo, would that benefit everyone? Now more than ever when I see "bingo":D I run the other direction.

 

Wouldn't benefit me, I don't play bingo, but if he made the casino non-smoking that would benefit me.

[rg24601]

I haven't paid more.

 

I would suggest with inflation you have but that's neither here nor there.

 

Good job not paying more!

[rg24601]

Wouldn't benefit me, I don't play bingo, but if he made the casino non-smoking that would benefit me.

 

Would that however benefit the smokers? I would think so but I'm not sure they would.

 

It was Motley's and oh who was that poster, reports of smoking in the casino, that capped off his splendid reports.

[rg24601]

I am not a shareholder and I think he has done nothing to hurt the brand IMO. And think he is doing a fine job. Others might disagree but that's their opinion.

 

“All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”

― Douglas Adams, The Salmon of Doubt

[MisterFidgetpants]

I think he has done nothing to hurt the brand IMO.

 

Does that count as a benefit to the guest?

[MisterFidgetpants]

I guess you didn't read some of the posts on this thread. Some mentioned changes that were a benefit to them. Just because you don't consider them a benefit, doesn't mean others don't.

 

I have been reading along just fine and I'll thank you to keep your snark in check.

 

You said you were just off a cruise this week. What benefits did you notice that could be attributed to FDR that were not present on cruises before he was CEO?

 

This thread is full of a lot of spin with people talking about how businesses are ran, or could be run, and how, maybe, to some, the new CEO has not hurt the brand image. None of those are exactly ringing endorsements of new benefits from where I sit.

 

You are right, a benefit doesn't have to benefit EVERYONE to be a benefit, it simply must be an upgrade or addition to the way things were previously done. Some may have no use for that or may not notice it, but it does not mean it isn't a benefit. And a benefit doesn't have to be a perk or freebie; it can be something that would otherwise reduce cost and / or enhance value for the same, or even higher, pricing.

 

What did you experience first hand in regards to enhanced value for your money spent?

[barnacle_boy]

How many NCL positions did Mr. Del Rio throw out in favor Prestige "yes men" and how many NCL positions remained from the old NCL regime?

 

 

Impossible to say because the transition is still ongoing. It's penetrated nearly all levels of corporate and is beginning to make its way onboard.

 

Very few remain, and many who do are actively seeking out other employment opportunities.

[NLH Arizona]

Would that however benefit the smokers? I would think so but I'm not sure they would.

 

It was Motley's and oh who was that poster, reports of smoking in the casino, that capped off his splendid reports.

No, but that is my point, what benefits one person isn't going to be benefit everyone and everyone looks for things that benefits them.

Edited December 14, 2015 by NLH Arizona

[sparks1093]

Impossible to say because the transition is still ongoing. It's penetrated nearly all levels of corporate and is beginning to make its way onboard.

 

Very few remain, and many who do are actively seeking out other employment opportunities.

 

It sounds like if an executive has anything less than "yes" to say about a Del Rio proposal said executive will be looking elsewhere for a job.

[MisterFidgetpants]

No, but that is my point, what benefits one person isn't going to be benemfit everyone and everyone looks for things that benefits them.

 

In other words, you either will not or are not capable to list a benefit to guests, in your experience, since FDR became CEO.

[sparks1093]

No, but that is my point, what benefits one person isn't going to be benemfit everyone and everyone looks for things that benefits them.

 

Yep. Even improving the food will still result in some being unhappy with the improvement.

[Moby0215]

Well this would be of no benefit.

 

 

 

One man's paradise is another man's prison I guess. ;)

 

 

 

with credit to, luv2swimwdolphins

 

 

You missed my point. The post that I quoted mentioned not seeing the "deals". I just gave a quick and easy method to find them. If they are not for the itineraries that you want it does. It mean deals are not out there to be had.

 

 

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