troykahack Posted August 17, 2016 #326 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Pinnacles can use the Suites Lounge Only if there is plenty of room for Suite guests.... Suite guests should have top priority over all.... regardless of status.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony O Posted August 17, 2016 #327 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Only if there is plenty of room for Suite guests.... Suite guests should have top priority over all.... regardless of status.... I agree with you completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troykahack Posted August 17, 2016 #328 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I agree with you completely I'm glad at least one here agrees. I bet we will find so many with Status will disagree. They will say without them, the Ships would all sink. I wonder if you look at cruisers over the long term, Suite Guests will typically spend more dollars on their vacations over those that have higher status. I would love to see some statics of this, as a stock holder, maybe I should ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 17, 2016 #329 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) Only if there is plenty of room for Suite guests.... Suite guests should have top priority over all.... regardless of status.... Which Suite guests? Are all suites equal :confused: Oasis of the Seas - March 4,2018 GS - $4,004 CL - $5,604 A4 - $6,005 OS - $6,005 SL - $10,804 GL - $12,204 OL - $13,804 FWIW, a Grand Suite is closer in price to an inside ($1,496) than it is to an Owners Loft ;) Edited August 17, 2016 by John&LaLa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipLondon Posted August 17, 2016 #330 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) It would increase revenue by enabling Diamond or above cruises to reconsider the value of a drink package. As it stands anyone that enjoys the 3 drink vouchers or early evening lounge access are basically giving that away that benefit by the purchasing of a Drink Package, and therefore they are more unlikely to buy one. Some of us do like to enjoy a drink poolside during the day, and wine with our dinner and a late night tipple as we relax after dinner. ( YES in addition to our pre-dinner cocktail ) therefore a reduced package price would make it viable, whereas at current rates it is not. It would also encourage more people to rise up though the loyalty ladder, because of the additional benefit. :eek: I'm not sure how giving discounted drink packages to anyone would increase revenue. Those who don't drink still aren't going to get it. Those who drink 2-3 drinks in a day maybe, but those are more likely to just use their freebie's in the evening anyway. Edited August 17, 2016 by ChipLondon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted August 17, 2016 #331 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) Only if there is plenty of room for Suite guests.... Suite guests should have top priority over all.... regardless of status.... I agree with you completely I'm glad at least one here agrees. I bet we will find so many with Status will disagree. They will say without them, the Ships would all sink. I wonder if you look at cruisers over the long term, Suite Guests will typically spend more dollars on their vacations over those that have higher status. I would love to see some statics of this, as a stock holder, maybe I should ask. It is one of the benefits of reaching Pinnacle, so they both have equal access. The number of suite guests are fixed while the number of Pinnacle guest can vary. No, I'm not Pinnacle and no I'm not close to becoming Pinnacle. Edited August 17, 2016 by Cuizer2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troykahack Posted August 17, 2016 #332 Share Posted August 17, 2016 It is one of the benefits of reaching Pinnacle, so they both have equal access. The number of suite guests are fixed while the number of Pinnacle guest can vary. No, I'm not Pinnacle and no I'm not close to becoming Pinnacle. And always subject to change. I've personally not had an issue with the lounges for Suite Guests and D and above. We only book 2 into our Suite, generally a GS. I hope it never becomes an issue for us. I would complain if the lounge was overwhelmed with people and no seats available, It should be a great place for Suite Guest to go and relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troykahack Posted August 17, 2016 #333 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) Which Suite guests? Are all suites equal :confused: Oasis of the Seas - March 4,2018 GS - $4,004 CL - $5,604 A4 - $6,005 OS - $6,005 SL - $10,804 GL - $12,204 OL - $13,804 FWIW, a Grand Suite is closer in price to an inside ($1,496) than it is to an Owners Loft ;) Well, only the bigger ships offer those higher level suites outside of the GS/OS/RS on most ships. I still would love to see what a D and above, especially P, spend $$ over a year on cruises compared to a Suite Guest who enjoys 3 to 4 cruises a year. I'm sure RCCL has it figured out. Here is what most people don't understand. Most all companies that are publicly traded have goals in this order, $ by OTR, $ Annually, $ Year to Year. Although loyalty is nice and good for most companies, it is really not one of their primarily goals to stockholders. Stockholders want to know what you are doing for me today and not what you did in the past. It is always good to have repeat business. Most all cruises sail full or nearly full. Would that change much if they decreased the status perks? I personally doubt it. Somebody will take the cabin. Edited August 17, 2016 by troykahack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted August 17, 2016 #334 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Anybody else have that Groundhog Day feeling.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted August 17, 2016 #335 Share Posted August 17, 2016 And always subject to change. I've personally not had an issue with the lounges for Suite Guests and D and above. We only book 2 into our Suite, generally a GS. I hope it never becomes an issue for us. I would complain if the lounge was overwhelmed with people and no seats available, It should be a great place for Suite Guest to go and relax. EVERYTHING is subject to change. There is separate Diamond Lounge for Diamonds, D+ and Pinnacles. Where there is a lot of status people on board, they open up other lounges to accommodate the extra people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted August 17, 2016 #336 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Well, only the bigger ships offer those higher level suites outside of the GS/OS/RS on most ships. I still would love to see what a D and above, especially P, spend $$ over a year on cruises compared to a Suite Guest who enjoys 3 to 4 cruises a year. I'm sure RCCL has it figured out. Here is what most people don't understand. Most all companies that are publicly traded have goals in this order, $ by OTR, $ Annually, $ Year to Year. Although loyalty is nice and good for most companies, it is really not one of their primarily goals to stockholders. Stockholders want to know what you are doing for me today and not what you did in the past. It is always good to have repeat business. Most all cruises sail full or nearly full. Would that change much if they decreased the status perks? I personally doubt it. Somebody will take the cabin. Many of the Pinnacles go on 20+ cruises per year, and easily outspend someone going on 3-4 cruises per year in a suite. Many of the Pinnacles book suites. It would take 50 years for someone to become Pinnacle if they only went on two cruises per year in a non-suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted August 17, 2016 #337 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Anybody else have that Groundhog Day feeling.:D It is the same with tipping, kids, chair hogs ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troykahack Posted August 17, 2016 #338 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Many of the Pinnacles go on 20+ cruises per year, and easily outspend someone going on 3-4 cruises per year in a suite. Many of the Pinnacles book suites. It would take 50 years for someone to become Pinnacle if they only went on two cruises per year in a non-suite. I was talking about as a whole... all people with Status against those that book Suites, their spending per year on everything, Specialty Restaurants, Shore Excursions through RCCL, Drinks and drink packages, casino play, Store Sales (both on board and ports of call), tips, and other things.. Yes, I know port of call sales is not a direct income to the ships, but I am sure it has an impact somewhere that the ships see is some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted August 17, 2016 #339 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) Where's Biker's horse when we need him? Edited August 17, 2016 by Big_G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 17, 2016 #340 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Anybody else have that Groundhog Day feeling.:D Hump Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 17, 2016 #341 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Many of the Pinnacles go on 20+ cruises per year, and easily outspend someone going on 3-4 cruises per year in a suite. Many of the Pinnacles book suites. It would take 50 years for someone to become Pinnacle if they only went on two cruises per year in a non-suite. But only two years if they went of 50 ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 17, 2016 #342 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Well, only the bigger ships offer those higher level suites outside of the GS/OS/RS on most ships. I still would love to see what a D and above, especially P, spend $$ over a year on cruises compared to a Suite Guest who enjoys 3 to 4 cruises a year. I'm sure RCCL has it figured out. Here is what most people don't understand. Most all companies that are publicly traded have goals in this order, $ by OTR, $ Annually, $ Year to Year. Although loyalty is nice and good for most companies, it is really not one of their primarily goals to stockholders. Stockholders want to know what you are doing for me today and not what you did in the past. It is always good to have repeat business. Most all cruises sail full or nearly full. Would that change much if they decreased the status perks? I personally doubt it. Somebody will take the cabin. Thanks for the heads up, but that's not what I asked. I will be on Serenade in April of 2017 in the RS. That ship has 15 GS's, 5 OS's, 3 TS's and 1 RS Let's say the lounge is exclusively Suite guests. And it's full, should you as a GS passenger give me your seat? Of course not, that is not how it works. So don't expect to have a PC member do that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troykahack Posted August 17, 2016 #343 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Thanks for the heads up, but that's not what I asked. I will be on Serenade in April of 2017 in the RS. That ship has 15 GS's, 5 OS's, 3 TS's and 1 RS Let's say the lounge is exclusively Suite guests. And it's full, should you as a GS passenger give me your seat? Of course not, that is not how it works. So don't expect to have a PC member do that for you. I would never ask a guest to give me their seat..... I am still interested in the amount of dollars $$$ in one form or another that Suite guests spend on their cruises compared to those that don't book Suites . It would be nice to compare including those with status. Wouldn't you like to know? All the time, those with status talk about how loyal they are to RCCL, and I believe RCCL does quite well with their status and points with perks. But, some, think they mean more to RCCL's bottom line than anyone else. What someone bought in the past is just that, in the past. It doesn't reward stock holders today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted August 17, 2016 #344 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Hump Day Since your back on the photo kick you really should post some more of Bella.:);) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 17, 2016 #345 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Since your back on the photo kick you really should post some more of Bella.:);) I really don't want to poke the bear. Anyway, just follow the Instagram link. Lots of new ones. Also a pretty good rocket launch from Saturday night ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted August 17, 2016 #346 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Yes, I know port of call sales is not a direct income to the ships, but I am sure it has an impact somewhere that the ships see is some way. Yes, it is called kickbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted August 17, 2016 #347 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I was talking about as a whole... all people with Status against those that book Suites, their spending per year on everything, Specialty Restaurants, Shore Excursions through RCCL, Drinks and drink packages, casino play, Store Sales (both on board and ports of call), tips, and other things.. If you are referring to all people who are Diamond and above compared to just suite passengers and include all spending, then the status people would easily outspend the suite passengers. I don't normally go in a suite, but I still buy shore excursions through the ship, I still buy photographs, I still go to specialty restaurants I still shop in the ship's store, I still buy drinks ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted August 17, 2016 #348 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Where's Biker's horse when we need him? If he has a bike, why does he need a horse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted August 17, 2016 #349 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I really don't want to poke the bear. Anyway, just follow the Instagram link. Lots of new ones. Also a pretty good rocket launch from Saturday night ;) I saw the rocket launch on another thread. Awesome photo. We've been lucky enough to be in Canaveral or NSB to see a few launches. The night ones are spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 17, 2016 #350 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I saw the rocket launch on another thread. Awesome photo. We've been lucky enough to be in Canaveral or NSB to see a few launches. The night ones are spectacular. We have one coming up tomorrow night as well. Just curious, does the instagram link work. Sorry for the threadjacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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