Facial recognition instead of passport scans.

[MicCanberra]

Facial recognition being introduced to replace passport scans.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/public-service/facial-recognition-technology-to-replace-passport-scans-at-airports-20170726-gxjd5v.html

 

Will this be quicker and easier or do you think it will slow things down.

[Dobby_The_Ship_Elf]

Depends on how much weight I have put on or many dirty bananas I have had before I squint into the camera!!!

[The_Big_M]

In speed, sure it'll be faster.

 

But it's another step in ongoing tracking, monitoring and controlling...

[OzKiwiJJ]

They track you every time you use your passport so it's not much different.

[MicCanberra]

Depends on how much weight I have put on or many dirty bananas I have had before I squint into the camera!!!

Yes, pre cruise and post cruise faces can be quite different.

[MicCanberra]

In speed, sure it'll be faster.

 

But it's another step in ongoing tracking, monitoring and controlling...

We have been watched for a long time already, this is a good step to make it harder for people travelling under a false passport.

[The_Big_M]

They track you every time you use your passport so it's not much different.

 

As a single checkpoint, no. But its implementation is readily scalable to multiple points through the airport, which is part of the intention in other airports anyway already. It also makes it readily deployable further. So it's the enabler for the rest, hence another step.

[The_Big_M]

We have been watched for a long time already, this is a good step to make it harder for people travelling under a false passport.

 

It won't really change that. They aren't changing the technical controls in the passport, and the smartgates already conducted the same biometric checks.

 

However, this enables it to be done quicker, and in a more automated way, with less infrastructure. That's where the change is.

[MicCanberra]

Forging a passport is much easier than forging a face though. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=face+off+movie&view=detail&mid=CBDC15FB1DA3D07AB459CBDC15FB1DA3D07AB459&FORM=VIRE

[The_Big_M]

You still need a passport, and they still take the same biometric controls. It just doesn't need to be presented, but it's doing the same checks (and thus forgery ability) as the current smartgates.

[MicCanberra]

Criminals known by Interpol would find it much harder to get about with this technology where as the passports may have got them through before.

[The_Big_M]

Hardly. It's the same recognition as currently with smartgates.

 

 

They're just looking up their biometric details that have been registered. If they haven't been registered i.e. don't match then they'd still go through regular processing.

 

 

If they have a forged id that has been correctly registered they'd get through optical recognition. If they have a forged id that hasn't been registered they'd go through manual processing.

[MicCanberra]

Okay, so if this isn't a better way for control who comes in or not, why do it?

[The_Big_M]

Automation, makes things cheaper as they can get rid of staff. Just like self-checkouts at supermarkets. It also makes 'upgrades' i.e. enhancements to checking easier, as they don't need to change so many policies and train people, as just upgrade the software interface.

 

 

Over time they then have the hardware in place and can work to get the number of biometric passports increased.

 

Look to the future: it can be deployed at multiple points throughout the terminal where cost and logistics aren't possible now. That's not part of immigration checking, but enables security enhancements e.g. at the entrance and exit to terminal where you can e.g. link to criminal and even just regular databases like drivers licences without it being obvious.

 

Of itself, it's not going to increase control. But it is the enabler for higher volumes of people to be identified, which then makes it easier for other systems to add controls and then this just applies them.

[MicCanberra]

Thanks for explaining my point which makes this so much better than the normal passport controls.

[The_Big_M]

Oh, I thought that your point was that "criminals known by Interpol would find it harder to get about" which this isn't going to help.

 

As said from the very beginning, this lets visual processing be done faster. That's better, but it also enables other personal trade-offs.

[MicCanberra]

Oh, I thought that your point was that "criminals known by Interpol would find it harder to get about" which this isn't going to help.

 

As said from the very beginning, this lets visual processing be done faster. That's better, but it also enables other personal trade-offs.

It will make it harder as the visual processing will be done faster.

[The_Big_M]

It will make it harder as the visual processing will be done faster.

 

That doesn't make it harder. If you spend say 1 minute going through smartgates, or 15 seconds through the new technology, it doesn't change the outcome, so doesn't make it harder.

 

It might even make it easier. Criminals get more nervous the more time they have to spend being checked and interviewed, so if they just get scanned quickly and their id passes, they won't even have time to get nervous.