So is there still the 5% of non vax kids for July or Aug?

[sanger727]

On 6/15/2021 at 5:14 AM, BoozinCroozin said:

I think the most fair way is by booking date, not when some random email comes out and the first Keyboard Kommandos can complete it. The person that booked in 2018 with 2 kids under 12 should have the first shot at it before the person that booked in March 2021. 

 

that might be "fair"; although, in the context of people getting cancelled and re-booking all through covid, there are a lot of people who were late bookers were not late bookers by choice.  Realistically, if they were not going to go by a lottery system, the system it would make the most sense for them to go by is room price. For their bottom line they would prefer to have a suite sail with parents and two kids rather than cancel over an inside room....

 

There's always someone who will think a different way is "fair"; booking date, loyalty tier, room price, etc - the lottery system probably is the most fair.

[BoozinCroozin]

Past cancelations cannot play into it. It was unfortunate for their canceled cruises. They could have canceled long before Carnival did and book another cruise. They were gifted with $600OBC per stateroom already. That is what they chose.

 

Of course there will always be someone that complains. There is no perfect system in place. Think about someone that booked a cruise in 2018 2 years before covid even existed. Then tell them they are canceled because someone was canceled from a previous cruise? 

 

I still think they are going vaccinated only. There is no realistic way around that for some time. Under 12s will have a vaccine come September. You are looking at November cruises with them. That is how the cruise lines should proceed, eliminate any chance for litigation, and no need to create a criteria that is flawed.

[lobster1313]

9 minutes ago, BoozinCroozin said:

Past cancelations cannot play into it. It was unfortunate for their canceled cruises. They could have canceled long before Carnival did and book another cruise. They were gifted with $600OBC per stateroom already. That is what they chose.

 

Of course there will always be someone that complains. There is no perfect system in place. Think about someone that booked a cruise in 2018 2 years before covid even existed. Then tell them they are canceled because someone was canceled from a previous cruise? 

 

I still think they are going vaccinated only. There is no realistic way around that for some time. Under 12s will have a vaccine come September. You are looking at November cruises with them. That is how the cruise lines should proceed, eliminate any chance for litigation, and no need to create a criteria that is flawed.

They won't even be done with the trials by September for under 12 so December or late November at the earliest for the EUA.

[BoozinCroozin]

Pfizer is already done and submitting for EUA in early September with approval expected in a week or two after. Read their last earnings report.

[lobster1313]

Just now, BoozinCroozin said:

Pfizer is already done and submitting for EUA in early September with approval expected in a week or two after. Read their last earnings report.

The FDA said earliest November because the entire advisory committee will have to meet since the dosage is different.