PrincessPete Posted June 2, 2022 #1 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) Being a previous CMV passenger (on one very pleasant “Astoria“ cruise) we are inundated with brochures and flyers from Ambassador cruise line. (I am sure you will know that, despite leaving numerous companies with £millions of unpaid debts, the previous CMV owners, who now run Ambassador, managed to afford to buy the mailing list from the liquidators – and indeed now rent the same old CMV premises in Essex). One of the brochures is for the 120 night Grand World Voyage in January 2024. When studying the itinerary I see there is just a single overnight stay - in Mombasa. From my knowledge of world cruises (which is restricted to brochures, never having been on one) I have never seen one that does not include overnights in such iconic ports as Sydney, Cape Town and Singapore. I would think that most world cruise passengers would welcome an overnight stay, at even just a few of those special ports they visit. I also see there are six ports with either very late arrivals or early afternoon departures, again cutting down on the available port time. Just seems a bit strange to me and would be interested in any other opinions. Kind regards Peter Edited June 2, 2022 by PrincessPete Grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britboys Posted June 7, 2022 #2 Share Posted June 7, 2022 On 6/2/2022 at 6:49 PM, PrincessPete said: Being a previous CMV passenger (on one very pleasant “Astoria“ cruise) we are inundated with brochures and flyers from Ambassador cruise line. (I am sure you will know that, despite leaving numerous companies with £millions of unpaid debts, the previous CMV owners, who now run Ambassador, managed to afford to buy the mailing list from the liquidators – and indeed now rent the same old CMV premises in Essex). One of the brochures is for the 120 night Grand World Voyage in January 2024. When studying the itinerary I see there is just a single overnight stay - in Mombasa. From my knowledge of world cruises (which is restricted to brochures, never having been on one) I have never seen one that does not include overnights in such iconic ports as Sydney, Cape Town and Singapore. I would think that most world cruise passengers would welcome an overnight stay, at even just a few of those special ports they visit. I also see there are six ports with either very late arrivals or early afternoon departures, again cutting down on the available port time. Just seems a bit strange to me and would be interested in any other opinions. Kind regards Peter Yes, it does seem a rather wasted opportunity - especially when the itinerary is 120 nights... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshirephil Posted July 12, 2022 #3 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 6/7/2022 at 4:36 PM, Britboys said: Yes, it does seem a rather wasted opportunity - especially when the itinerary is 120 nights... This is the one thing that would put me off a worldie with Ambassador, maybe they will add more 2/3 day stops to future world cruises once they are more established. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_london0 Posted July 13, 2022 #4 Share Posted July 13, 2022 The thing that will put me off booking with Ambassador again is that they don't seem to offer experiences which are "everything that there is to see in this location". They just seem to offer a 3 hour trip to see A and B, and there's another 3 hour trip to see X and Y (overlapping so you can't do both) what about the 6 hour option seeing A, B, X and Y? It's almost like they just treat the "experiences" as "something to do", rather than a chance to visit somewhere exhaustively. I don't want to go to somewhere on a cruise and just use it as sample, and then have to go back again to finish off that location. If I'm going to have to go back again, I don't need to go there on a cruise in the first place, do I? Obviously my holiday desires are not the target for this types of cruise, which is a shame. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britboys Posted July 15, 2022 #5 Share Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/13/2022 at 4:10 PM, tim_london0 said: The thing that will put me off booking with Ambassador again is that they don't seem to offer experiences which are "everything that there is to see in this location". They just seem to offer a 3 hour trip to see A and B, and there's another 3 hour trip to see X and Y (overlapping so you can't do both) what about the 6 hour option seeing A, B, X and Y? It's almost like they just treat the "experiences" as "something to do", rather than a chance to visit somewhere exhaustively. I don't want to go to somewhere on a cruise and just use it as sample, and then have to go back again to finish off that location. If I'm going to have to go back again, I don't need to go there on a cruise in the first place, do I? Obviously my holiday desires are not the target for this types of cruise, which is a shame. If a particular itinerary appeals, you can always book an excursion independent of the ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_london0 Posted July 16, 2022 #6 Share Posted July 16, 2022 22 hours ago, Britboys said: If a particular itinerary appeals, you can always book an excursion independent of the ship. For many destination it's impossible to find out about available group excursions in advance (I have tried, and failed, many times for land based trips), even where they do exist. And using a website to book an independent guide for a bespoke excursion is unaffordable for a party of size 1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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