Rare BSR Posted December 30, 2022 #1 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Can I start the first cruise in San Diego, CA and end in Vancouver, BC. The 2nd cruise will continue on and end in Seward, AK. Is this a violation of the PVSA act? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseryyc Posted December 30, 2022 #2 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Yes it is a violation so won't be allowed. Look at getting off one ship in Vancouver and then getting on another one northbound. Not ideal but ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTJ Posted December 30, 2022 #3 Share Posted December 30, 2022 For each individual vessel that one travels, you look at the initial port of embarkation, and the final port of disembarkation, and use that to determine the transportation that is provided by that vessel. In this case, you would be transported from San Diego, California, to Seward, Alaska. If the vessel is American flagged, then the transportation from San Diego to Seward would be lawful. However, there are very few American flagged passenger vessels, so this would probably not be the case. If the vessel is American flagged, then the transportation from San Diego to Seward would be lawful only if both you and the vessel visited, enroute, a "distant" foreign port. Canada is not deemed to be "distant," so there would have to be some other foreign port visited. If the vessel were to visit, say, Kiribati or Russia, then those being "distant" foreign ports, the transportation from San Diego to Seward would be lawful. However, there are very few itineraries that visit such "distant" foreign ports, so this would probably not be the case. Thus, the answer to your question is "probably yes," a violation of the PVSA, though not necessarily so in very unusual circumstances. If transportation is desired from San Diego to Seward is desired, then best to do so other than with a single vessel. For example, one could travel from San Diego to Vancouver by railroad (Amtrak provides such service), or by sea using a different vessel (even if operated by the same carrier); then continue from Vancouver to Seward on the vessels now being considered. Were you to book a violative itinerary, whether notoriously or deceptively (as in making two separate reservations), the carrier should, and probably will, notice the violation and not permit the reservation to stand. And if you don't cancel of the segments yourself, the carrier will do so for you and refuse to provide the transportation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glaciers Posted December 30, 2022 #4 Share Posted December 30, 2022 There was a lengthy and exhausting thread regarding this a year or two ago. You may be able to find it by searching although GTJ seems to sum it up well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTJ Posted December 30, 2022 #5 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Slight, but important, correction to third paragraph (omitted word): 37 minutes ago, GTJ said: If the vessel is not American flagged, then the transportation from San Diego to Seward would be lawful only if both you and the vessel visited, enroute, a "distant" foreign port. Canada is not deemed to be "distant," so there would have to be some other foreign port visited. If the vessel were to visit, say, Kiribati or Russia, then those being "distant" foreign ports, the transportation from San Diego to Seward would be lawful. However, there are very few itineraries that visit such "distant" foreign ports, so this would probably not be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Coral Posted December 31, 2022 #6 Share Posted December 31, 2022 19 hours ago, BSR said: Can I start the first cruise in San Diego, CA and end in Vancouver, BC. The 2nd cruise will continue on and end in Seward, AK. Is this a violation of the PVSA act? If you are on one ship, no. If you stay on the ship back to Vancouver, it becomes legal. If you switch ships in Vancouver, it is legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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