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Day 4 dinner in MDR

 

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Shrimp tails were great (and who doesn't like shrimp?)

 

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DS ordered guac and chips, ate the chips and sent the guac packing before I had a chance to eat it.... 😞 Kids, man... He knows how much I love guacamole.

 

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DH ordered the gumbo, and it was ok:

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I ordered the fish soup for me and my parents and we all liked it:

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And that's where things got dicey..... This dinner was the only one most of us disliked. Both DH and I ordered a red snapper. I ordered ribs for my parents and DS.

 

All three rib servings were simply awful. My dad is omnivorous, as long as he can chew the food. His teeth are pretty bad, and he couldn't chew the ribs. They were tough, tasteless and fatty, and the bbq sauce was not good. We make terrific baby back ribs at home. These were bad.

 

My red snapper was very good and tender, but my mom really hated her ribs, so I switched dishes with her.  However, my DH's red snapper was very dry (I tried it and I concur).  I didn't eat the ribs because they were awful.

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the desserts were good. 🙂

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since I didn't get to eat an entree, I ordered a cheese plate for the first time. Cheese offerings are different every day.  I loved all the choices this evening: they were all mild.

 

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Day 5 MDR dinner

 

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We started with crispy crab cakes. LOL. The texture and the taste were that of ordinary mashed potatoes. But they looked pretty.

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Asparagus soup was very unusual, but my mom liked it.

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Prosciutto was delicious!

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And I enjoyed both baba ghanoush and hummus, although they were a little on a plain side.

 

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DH enjoyed his medium Steak Diane:

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while I enjoyed medium Steak Diane without the sauce:

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the steak was thin, but tender, and definitely medium as requested: image.thumb.jpeg.c1294de31a763c60716fd138d96a7715.jpeg

 

DS super duper loved Texas mac and cheese, but don't eat the pepper on top, unless you like extraordinarily hot peppers: my husband loves hot peppers, but even for him this was spicy.

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My parents both enjoyed the always available grilled salmon:

 

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All the desserts were quite lovely:

 

Vanilla cream:

 

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Cheesecake with passion fruit

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Coconut tapioca pudding

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Every day there was a different additional flavor of ice cream, and tonight it was COFFEE!! It was fantastic.

 

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Some of the dishes and many of the desserts are the same in the Yacht Club. The YC Restaurant can not make everything in their kitchen. All the baked goods and desserts must come from a central kitchen and distributed to all restaurants, specialty as well, perhaps plated differently ? From what you are posting the perception of finer dining at specialty or YC is an illusion. 

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Thank you for all of your food pictures and reviews! My husband and I are turning 40 this year and cruising the seascape in February to celebrate. We splurged on the YC but quite honestly the menus in the main dining rooms suite our tastes much more. The YC menus are very European and odd in my opinion. I wonder if you are in YC you have the option to eat in the anytime main dining area? A lot of the options on the main dining room menu sound great and there are like 10 more choices to choose from than the YC menu. 

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Thanks so much for taking the time to do this review and post all of the pics.  We are first time MSC guests later this month, so this helps us greatly when trying to figure out what to order.  I appreciate the balanced feedback.

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1 hour ago, NatM said:

Thank you for all of your food pictures and reviews! My husband and I are turning 40 this year and cruising the seascape in February to celebrate. We splurged on the YC but quite honestly the menus in the main dining rooms suite our tastes much more. The YC menus are very European and odd in my opinion. I wonder if you are in YC you have the option to eat in the anytime main dining area? A lot of the options on the main dining room menu sound great and there are like 10 more choices to choose from than the YC menu. 

Yacht Club may eat at any restaurant. We passed by one on deck 7 and after an hour of show in Le Cabaret Rouge we stopped by the still open restaurant and asked to see a menu. We asked if we could just have dessert. They asked for our cabin # and saw we were YC and said "sure". They were about to seat us at a big table, but I pointed to a vacant table for two and were seated. As soon as the waiter brought us our desserts I tipped him $5 and he kept coming back every two minutes asking if we wanted coffee, more dessert, bottled water; could even have had another full meal (complimentary, of course).

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2 hours ago, NatM said:

I wonder if you are in YC you have the option to eat in the anytime main dining area?

it's pretty funny, but somebody on our sailing's FB page asked this, and everybody in steerage class was like - why would you want to? A lot of people considered MDR food to be bad. And then someone in YC class said that she was having the best food ever in YC - lamb, shrimp, seafood, blah-blah. And here we were - having to pay $5 for additional entrees. 

 

P.S. I'll post more tomorrow.

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Thank you for the information! I know it seems weird but we are used to typical  traditional fine dining American food. Love lobster, prime rib, French onion soup, crab, seafood, etc. we are not necessarily picky eaters but like American classics 

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10 hours ago, NatM said:

Thank you for the information! I know it seems weird but we are used to typical  traditional fine dining American food. Love lobster, prime rib, French onion soup, crab, seafood, etc. we are not necessarily picky eaters but like American classics 

French onion soup was available every day, and my dad ordered it pretty much every time, but the taste was inconsistent. Some nights it was very salty and my dad who'll eat just about anything (like me, lol), didn't eat it.

 

I wouldn't call MSC fine dining, nor do we do fine dining at home, but it was pretty standard cruise food, nothing extraordinary, but not awful every day either. Edible, but uninspiring. Years after taking cruises on Princess, I remember our favorite choices and can't wait to eat them again. RCI post pandemic has actually been really-really good. Pre-pandemic NCL food was awful. It's been a week since our MSC cruise, and nothing at MDR truly stood out in a good, memorable way. If I weren't looking at the photos for this review, I wouldn't remember any of it.

 

But like I said so far - we only had one really bad MDR night. Somebody we talked to later said she wanted to try shrimp and grits, but the waiter told her it was really bad as well. I would have liked to try it, but I assumed that the dish (even if it had been good) would have been tiny.

 

Before I forget to mention it, the bite size desserts at the buffet were outstanding. There were different varieties, and they looked a little like these (the photo is from Enchanted Princess) and they were delicious:

 

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Thanksgiving dinner 🙂 All the standard US options. The always available menu was also available, but not brought out or mentioned in the digital copy.

 

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We ordered all of the appetizers, however, they didn't have the mushroom ragout, because "they didn't have any mushrooms." Surprise!

 

Bacon wrapped shrimp. The shrimp was good, but some plates had soggy bacon. Mine was crispy, DH's was very soggy.

And two shrimp? Only two? I should have been used to the tiny portions by now...

 

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Dad like the barley soup:

 

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Deviled eggs were good and fluffy, but not as tasty as Nana makes. 🙂 

 

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Mom ordered Glazed Salmon and loved it. Unfortunately, she felt obliged to give it to dad, when his turkey was a bit on a tough side and he couldn't chew through it.

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She found a nice soft piece of turkey and liked it. I thought the presentation was lovely.

 

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I had ham steak and I liked it, but I then felt obliged to share it with mom and dad, because of their turkey problems. My DH ate the Brussel sprouts. 

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My DH didn't find anything appealing on the main menu, so he had the rotisserie chicken from the always available side. He liked it. DS had a pasta.

 

Desserts were great!

 

The poached pear was wonderful. Not too sweet, lovely flavor, I wish I ordered it for myself.

 

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I don't like traditional pecan pie in the States because it's usually over the top sweet which kills any flavor for me personally. This one, however, was different - not overly sweet, with a very interesting combination of burnt sugar and something else flavors.

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DS raved about the pumpkin pie bar - according to him it was the best ever. He was so excited, he insisted that I try it. I hate pumpkin pie. I obliged, of course, and as far as pumpkin pies are concerned, this one was probably outstanding. Just not for me. 🙂

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Unfortunately, the cheese platter had all the stinky or sharper cheeses on it, so I only nibbled on the middle one a bit and ate all the garnish.

 

 

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Ice cream of the day was Rum Raisin, and it was terrific! Just as great as Häagen-Dazs. I love Häagen-Dazs Rum Raisin, and I've never found any other version of Rum Raisin I love as much. This one was just right!

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If you did not like an entree, were you allowed to ask for a replacement without thr $5 charge? Sounds like you and your family did not like a couple, like the turkey. So, just wondering of that feedback was shared with thr waiter and he offered to bring you something different. Thx 😊 

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3 hours ago, Itchy&Scratchy said:

Thanksgiving dinner 🙂 All the standard US options. The always available menu was also available, but not brought out or mentioned in the digital copy.

 

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Now this IS interesting. Your Thanksgiving Dinner menu is the SAME as our Yacht Club Thanksgiving Dinner menu which I took as a momento. Which proves to, some degree, that there is this illusion that meal preparation is done in completely separate kitchens on these cruise ships. Those in steerage look with desire at first class with longing for the finer things, while those in first class are 'rubes' (bumpkins, chawbacons, hayseeds, hicks, yahoos, and yokels) thinking they are getting a more 'fitting' fare.

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3 hours ago, blueslily said:

If you did not like an entree, were you allowed to ask for a replacement without thr $5 charge? Sounds like you and your family did not like a couple, like the turkey. So, just wondering of that feedback was shared with thr waiter and he offered to bring you something different. Thx 😊 

We did not. One of the reasons we didn't ask is because we always arrived a bit late (because we don't want to eat at 5, so they told us to show up by 5:30 which we did), so if we asked for a different entree or two, it would have pushed our dinner to end much later, when the second seating was ready to dine.

 

Also, we weren't sure they wouldn't mistake it for a plot to get a "free" entree. Those poor waiters get enough crap as it is. It's not like we were still hungry, and if we were, as others pointed out, there was always buffet. We did visit buffet once after MDR dinner with our friends whose kids wanted some food. That's when I discovered delicious buffet desserts.

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Last night's dinner... In its infinite weirdness MSC decided to have a Gala dinner on the last night, while asking people to dress up for dinner, and also to pack their luggage and to only keep the necessary stuff with them.

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Eggplant parmigiana was pretty good:

 

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I loved Salmon Rillettes, even though I didn't know that it was going to be minced salmon with some kind of a red caviar on top. Neither did my husband - he really didn't care for it, so I ate his portion. The waiter forgot to bring me my own. 😞

 

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To my shame I also didn't realize that beef tartar was a RAW dish. Hubs didn't order it and didn't think to warn me either, lol. I got it for myself and my parents, and when it was brought out, my DH said - oh, did you know it was raw? Nope. I actually asked the waiter just to be sure. I stopped eating it - sorry, but I don't trust MSC to properly "disinfect" raw meat. Even though I get a medium steak. 🙂

 

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Lobster bisque was ok. I guess I am not a fan, but I keep ordering these on cruises, hoping to one day find the one I like.  When I order clam chowder, it's always different on ships, some I like, and some I don't.

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Both DH and I ordered filet mignon. Mine was plain, and his as intended - with the jus. It was good, but not Princess or even RCI good.

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Our waiter tried to get us to order a lobster "for just $5", but we are not fans. Instead I would have loved to have the wild mushroom pasta, but I didn't want to pay extra to get a tiny portion.

 

My parents had Salmon en Croute, since both of them love salmon, and my dad is very fond of feta cheese. It was very good according to them. I also loved the presentation.

 

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This beautiful chocolate cake was Royal cake, and it was scrumptious.

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Ice cream of the day was once again coffee, and our waiter brought it out to all of us without even asking, because he remembered how much we loved it before. It was wonderful yet again.

 

We also tried baked Alaska, and it was very good.

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And that's it for MDR food. 🙂

 

I must also note that the asst waiter always brought bottles of mineral water (still and sparking) for our dinner. I don't know if it's because we had an Easy Plus package or everyone gets them as well. I am still not sure.

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Now I want to mention some things about our cruise which left a rather negative impression on us. They will definitely weigh pretty heavily on the negative side when deciding on our next 2025 adventure.

 

First, the elevators. Ugh. We hated them. The number of times they arrived within a minute or two was seriously negated by the number of times we waited for over 5 minutes. While my mom, DH, DS and I could give up and take the stairs for a few floors, my dad couldn't. Once time we waited for 10 minutes, the elevator finally arrived, but it was so full, even my dad alone couldn't squeeze in. We waited for another 10 minutes for the next one. 

 

On other cruise lines, we never waited this long. Sometimes, we would even ride down first to ride up, but it's impossible with this stupid MSC system. In the past we would sometimes forget something in the cabin, make it all the way to the MDR, sit down, and then one of us would make a very quick dash to the cabin and make it back before the waiter would even come out with menus. No such luck on Seascape.

 

Second, and a real deal breaker - the level of disorganization, especially when it comes to embarkation and disembarkation in ports of call. Good grief.

Why even bother putting the disembarkation deck on the tableau inside the elevator if the person can't see it until they call the elevator to the correct deck first?

Why the horribly long lines to get off the ship? Why are there only one or two disembarkation points with only one crew member manning the station? Why do we have to walk for a mile through the bowels of the ship just to get out? Why are they searching all the beach bags manually in Jamaica? What are they looking for? Why does it take over an hour to get back on the ship? Why are we standing in a hot area without any air movement? They are letting families with kids in strollers through, but elderly adults with walking canes and walkers are ignored.

If there is no line, they will not shorten a walk to the x-ray machine by taking off some of the ropes. You still have to zigzag through several turns. I can do it, but my dad can't. I actually asked for them to let my dad in because we were literally standing right next to the x-ray machine, there was no line, but they were still sending people to walk through the maze of ropes first.

 

Third, the buffet layout is horrible. Not enough seating for everyone. Some tables are so close to each other, you can't actually sit at them because you can't squeeze into a chair. Tables cannot be moved.

 

Last one: soft serve ice cream. Now, we knew this going in, but we still didn't realize how difficult it would be to obtain it. We knew it was included with the Minor's package, but apparently, MSC crew didn't. Free soft serve is available in the buffet in the afternoon for about an hour, but you are spending that time trying to get back on the ship for over an hour. When you finally get in, the line for ice cream is very long. I managed to get the soft serve only ONCE during the entire cruise. Granted, it was very good, but ONCE???? It's ok, though, it's my DH and kiddo for whom having unlimited soft serve any time they want is an essential part of cruising.

DH and kid had it twice - once when we finally convinced the crew member manning the ice cream machine that it was included with the kid's package, but he was still skeptical, and another time when my dad stood in that long line and got 3 cones for us.

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2 hours ago, Itchy&Scratchy said:

the elevators.

We had the same problem with the distance from our cabin deck 12 and Luminae Restaurant deck 3 on the Celebrity Equinox, so we switched to the Celebrity Edge class because of the elevator wait. We always book now our cabin within just a few manageable floors on any ship to the restaurant.

 

2 hours ago, Itchy&Scratchy said:

the level of disorganization, especially when it comes to embarkation and disembarkation in ports of call.

We no longer bother to get off at any port. Still reading how people are getting sick from coughers on tour buses. The ship is our destination. Love that MSC has a separate gangway for their suite guests, never a line or serpentining should one want to get off and just stretch one's legs, like Ocean Cay.

 

2 hours ago, Itchy&Scratchy said:

the buffet layout is horrible.

Here is the buffet for breakfast and lunch time, albeit at times when everyone else is still sleeping or waiting to get back on board the ship at the same time for lunch. (videos below)

 

2 hours ago, Itchy&Scratchy said:

 

Last one: soft serve ice cream.

It is worth mentioning again that the gelato is $4 for one scoop and $6 for two scoops. The third soft serve ice cream machine was out at the adult only Infinity Pool. The one outside of the Market Place buffet at the Jungle Pool gelato station works and opens at 1pm. One morning at the Long Island pool I saw the soft serve ice cream machines filled and ready to serve (7 am). I inquired. The cones of soft serve are $5, Pina Colada or Strawberry Daiquiri ...Or a blend of both called a "Miami Vice". All non alcoholic. The soft serve ice cream is included in the non-alcoholic and kid's beverage packages. Ice cream sundaes are complimentary for dessert every lunch and dinner in all the MDRs.

Soft Serve ice cream machine is moved out most every afternoon inside the Market Place buffet starboard side Bread Station for complimentary cones 3:30 to 4:30 (however since this one is on wheels it can be moved to the back of the Market Place buffet next to the bar instead).. Sure many staffers are new and do not know all the packages and if mistakes are made one must stand in another long line at guests relations, to straighten it out. I stood in this long line my first cruise on MSC. When we finally got to the front of the line the purser would not even talk to us. They saw our cabin card and called the Yacht Club and sent us back up stairs. Waiting at the elevator was the YC director telling us that YCers do not stand in any lines on MSC. We have concierges to handle everything promptly.

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12 hours ago, morpheusofthesea said:

It is worth mentioning again that the gelato is $4 for one scoop and $6 for two scoops.

we didn't want any gelato. Thanks.

 

12 hours ago, morpheusofthesea said:

The one outside of the Market Place buffet at the Jungle Pool gelato station works and opens at 1pm

 

that machine was always broken or otherwise inoperational.  Every time we walked by - and let's face it, we did it many times a day (especially, since the boys were playing ping-pong just a deck up), it wasn't working.  The crew member sent us to the Marina Bar (it also had a soft serve machine) where they didn't know that soft serve was included in the kid's package.

 

12 hours ago, morpheusofthesea said:

The soft serve ice cream is included in the non-alcoholic and kid's beverage packages.

thank you for restating something I've already said. I also mentioned that the crew didn't know about it.

 

Once again, MSC proves that how it's supposed to be is not always how it really is.

 

 

12 hours ago, morpheusofthesea said:

Waiting at the elevator was the YC director telling us that YCers do not stand in any lines on MSC. We have concierges to handle everything promptly.

And, once again, you interject with how it is in YC. Everybody on this forum has read your posts many times and knows exactly how it is in YC. Please give us some space to discuss how things are outside of it.

 

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Now, let's talk about the positives and what we have enjoyed onboard Seascape. And some other general observations. 🙂

 

Card Activation Kiosks - a wonderful service. No need to stand in the long Guest Services line to make a deposit, to get the balance back, or to register your credit card. We've used it several times and were pleasantly surprised by the ease of use. Now, you gotta wait when you touch your cruise card to the reader plate until you hear a ding and then proceed to use the services. The screen had 6 languages that I saw to help international cruisers.

Instead of registering a credit card, I made a cash deposit for us and for my parents. For some reason, their gratuities were $101.50, and our gratuities were $98 pp. Not sure why. We were also supposed to have $50 OBC for my DH's silver membership level, but even though I called MSC to add his number to our booking, this never materialized. Oh, well. At least my call didn't cause any problems with the booking itself.

 

Surprisingly, we didn't have any erroneous charges on our folio. I stopped by the Guest Services the first night when it wasn't busy yet to ask why my OBC wasn't showing, and GS told me that she could see it, but it wasn't applied yet, but it will be by the end of day 2. It was.

 

Service - also wonderful. All of the staff members we have simply encountered or dealt with were friendly, smiley, courteous.

 

We enjoyed all the shows in the theater. Comedian A-Train was funny - we went to the family friendly show, most of his jokes went over the head of our friends' 8 and 6 year olds, but our 12 year old understood quite a few of them.

 

The production shows were very nice. The female dancers gave it 200% and were terrific, especially Nia, while the male dancers (especially the shortest one of them) were more of a high school production caliber. Everything else was top notch. I was under the impression that theater shows would be more physical, to accommodate non-English speakers, but there was a lot of singing and pretty much all of the songs were in English. However, they were the familiar favorites, so I am sure even non-Americans enjoyed them. My parents did, and their English is very rudimentary.

 

There was a group of deaf people onboard that week, and they had an ASL interpreter next to the stage. I loved watching them interpret.

 

The acrobatic dance duo and the aerialists were great. I wish we could also see them at Le Cabaret Rouge, but every time we went there, there were other acts on stage... After about day 3 Le Cabaret Rouge shows switched from 8-10:30 pm to start at 10 pm, and we are usually ready to relax in bed or on the balcony by then.

 

Wifi plan worked fine for browsing and even watching short videos/gifs on FB and reddit. I checked my email, FB, checked in with the pet sitter, etc. it does not work as a hot spot, just FYI.

 

MSC has the weirdest disembarkation schedule. Cabins that are next to each other end up being in completely different waiting groups. My parents ended up in group 11 while we were in group 15. I asked our cabin attendant to either give us both group 11 or group 15,, but he told me I had to go to GS and request it. Instead, I just slapped a group 15 label on my parents' suitcase and moved it to our cabin door. Problem solved. Nobody cared.

 

Our plane was leaving at 6 pm that evening, so we had plenty of time and didn't need to be among the first people off the ship. We had a "leisurely" breakfast among the chaos that was the Market Place buffet, and then waited on deck 6 across from the perfume store till about 10 or whenever they were calling groups 40+ and then joined a line of people moving towards the exit. I would call this a smooth disembarkation. No issues.

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Thank you for this inside look at a non yacht club experience.  We are sailing on the Meraviglia in February (steerage class) and really appreciate this review.  The MSC boards are definitely very heavy on the Yacht Club experience and conversation.  It’s tough to find info like this.  Thank you!

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22 hours ago, Itchy&Scratchy said:

Last night's dinner... In its infinite weirdness MSC decided to have a Gala dinner on the last night, while asking people to dress up for dinner, and also to pack their luggage and to only keep the necessary stuff with them.

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Eggplant parmigiana was pretty good:

 

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I loved Salmon Rillettes, even though I didn't know that it was going to be minced salmon with some kind of a red caviar on top. Neither did my husband - he really didn't care for it, so I ate his portion. The waiter forgot to bring me my own. 😞

 

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To my shame I also didn't realize that beef tartar was a RAW dish. Hubs didn't order it and didn't think to warn me either, lol. I got it for myself and my parents, and when it was brought out, my DH said - oh, did you know it was raw? Nope. I actually asked the waiter just to be sure. I stopped eating it - sorry, but I don't trust MSC to properly "disinfect" raw meat. Even though I get a medium steak. 🙂

 

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Lobster bisque was ok. I guess I am not a fan, but I keep ordering these on cruises, hoping to one day find the one I like.  When I order clam chowder, it's always different on ships, some I like, and some I don't.

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Both DH and I ordered filet mignon. Mine was plain, and his as intended - with the jus. It was good, but not Princess or even RCI good.

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Our waiter tried to get us to order a lobster "for just $5", but we are not fans. Instead I would have loved to have the wild mushroom pasta, but I didn't want to pay extra to get a tiny portion.

 

My parents had Salmon en Croute, since both of them love salmon, and my dad is very fond of feta cheese. It was very good according to them. I also loved the presentation.

 

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This beautiful chocolate cake was Royal cake, and it was scrumptious.

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Ice cream of the day was once again coffee, and our waiter brought it out to all of us without even asking, because he remembered how much we loved it before. It was wonderful yet again.

 

We also tried baked Alaska, and it was very good.

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And that's it for MDR food. 🙂

 

I must also note that the asst waiter always brought bottles of mineral water (still and sparking) for our dinner. I don't know if it's because we had an Easy Plus package or everyone gets them as well. I am still not sure.

So what exactly had the added charge? Just an extra main dish? You could order extra desserts as well as appetizers/sides? We probably won't since we try to watch the calorie intake and really over do that with the drk pckg, but I am curious.

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