Spice H20...no more smoking?

[Cruising575]

Spice H20 on the Joy is completely nonsmoking since the drydock. The updated deck plan showing the (mostly) enclosed smoking area near the pool is also correct. Some smell does get out of course if you walk nearby, but it really reduced the amount of smoke in the area.

[dbrown84]

2 hours ago, cruiseny4life said:

So...umm...yea...back to the topic? Without the judgment? 

 

Can you smoke in Spice H2O or not? What has been the experience of those that have cruised in, say, the last three to four weeks? 

looks like the FAQs has been updated and no longer has H2O has a valid smoking location on the joy

https://www.ncl.com/ca/en/cruise-faq/smoking

[TYCruise]

2 hours ago, Two Wheels Only said:

 

Wearing too much perfume doesn't kill thousands of people per year who don't wear too much perfume.

Having bad breath doesn't kill thousands of people per year who don't have bad breath.

The act of not bathing regularly doesn't kill thousands of people per year who do bathe regularly. 

 

Cigarette smoke does kill thousands of people per year who don't smoke. That's worse than rude, unfortunate, or offensive...combined. ☠️

 

I am not a smoker, but I'm always impressed with how strongly some people react to others being allowed to smoke in some outdoors areas on cruise ships. 

 

Do you realize that you're on a floating power plant that burns fossil fuels, and the smoke stack is right above your head?  Ever notice all the soot on the aft of the ship?  It's not from cigarettes.

 

 

If health and air quality is a major concern, cruising is not a good choice.

For more on cruise ship air quality: https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-01-24/air-quality-on-cruise-ships-worse-than-in-beijing-study

[scooter6139]

34 minutes ago, TYCruise said:

 

I am not a smoker, but I'm always impressed with how strongly some people react to others being allowed to smoke in some outdoors areas on cruise ships. 

 

Do you realize that you're on a floating power plant that burns fossil fuels, and the smoke stack is right above your head?  Ever notice all the soot on the aft of the ship?  It's not from cigarettes.

 

 

If health and air quality is a major concern, cruising is not a good choice.

For more on cruise ship air quality: https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-01-24/air-quality-on-cruise-ships-worse-than-in-beijing-study

Depends on what type of ship you are on.  About 2/3 of new builds are LNG.  

[MoCruiseFan]

The REAL question that no one has asked yet is do we have to tip smokers and how muc is the usual tip? 🙂

[Two Wheels Only]

51 minutes ago, TYCruise said:

Do you realize that you're on a floating power plant that burns fossil fuels, and the smoke stack is right above your head?  Ever notice all the soot on the aft of the ship?  It's not from cigarettes.

 

Cruise ships have internal combustion engines that produce exhaust in order to function.

 

Human beings DO NOT require cigarettes in order to function and DO NOT need to produce cigarette smoke. 

[TYCruise]

23 minutes ago, scooter6139 said:

Depends on what type of ship you are on.  About 2/3 of new builds are LNG.  

 

A step in the right direction (when they actually use LNG), but it still does not result in "clean air"

[cincicruisers]

I am ok with having smoking areas outside.  I just steer clear of those areas.
 I don’t understand why they still allow smoking in the casino though.  I stink of smoke after I play in casino.  I have to shower as soon as I get back to cabin.  It is only a matter of time before they will make the casino non smoking.  On our last cruise there was a smoker out on their balcony somewhere close to ours.  Only smelled it the first day thank goodness.  

[CruiseMH]

On 3/7/2024 at 8:18 PM, hallux said:

The pool deck is an 'open venue', as is the sun deck, yet smoking is banned in those locations...

 

It is clear that you can`t allow smoking on the whole ship.So you have to create designated smoking areas.And to me the best option for such areas are outside locations. Cause then you have the least possible impact on other cruisers. Anywhere inside it takes much more effort(and in the end money) to prevent the smoke from spreading to much.

 

thats what i wanted to say. And also as the spice H2O is an adults only area it is even more perfect as smoking area.

[CruiseMH]

On 3/7/2024 at 8:18 PM, hallux said:

The pool deck is an 'open venue', as is the sun deck, yet smoking is banned in those locations...

 

You can`t allow smoking on the whole ship so you have to create designated smoking areas. At outside locations the impact on other cruisers is much lower than at any inside location. Inside you have to take much more efforts(and money) to prevent the smoke from spreading too wide.

And as the spice H2O also is an adults only area(at least throughout the day) it is the perfect smoking area.

Thats why i would be surprised if NCL would ban smokers from the spice H2O.

[MoCruiseFan]

Hey TwoWheelsOnly (not to disrupt the discussion) what do you eride and how long have you been riding?

 

[Two Wheels Only]

1 hour ago, MoCruiseFan said:

Hey TwoWheelsOnly (not to disrupt the discussion) what do you eride and how long have you been riding?

 

Whenever I post specific information about riding or what I ride, a Mod deletes it so I'll be vague. 

 

I started riding over 20 years ago, started doing track-days less than a year later, graduated racing school and got my racing license 2 years after that, did a few races per season in the Mid-Atlantic region (amateur level) for a few years, then continued to street ride but stopped racing.

 

If you see a 1000cc sportbike rider in Central Florida (rare) who is wearing a helmet (very rare), proper riding gear (extremely rare), and with correct riding/body position (unicorn rare), it might be me. 👍

Edited March 9 by Two Wheels Only

[uneamie]

On 3/8/2024 at 3:09 PM, Two Wheels Only said:

 

Cruise ships have internal combustion engines that produce exhaust in order to function.

 

Human beings DO NOT require cigarettes in order to function and DO NOT need to produce cigarette smoke. 

True but you DO NOT have to go on a cruise to function either. There is some control over what goes into your lungs in certain situations. 

[uneamie]

On 3/8/2024 at 12:54 PM, dbrown84 said:

looks like the FAQs has been updated and no longer has H2O has a valid smoking location on the joy

https://www.ncl.com/ca/en/cruise-faq/smoking

And according to this on the Joy they DID NOT create a smoking lounge next to the cigar lounge like someone posted. 

[Two Wheels Only]

11 minutes ago, uneamie said:

True but you DO NOT have to go on a cruise to function either. 

 

Says who? 😀

 

13 minutes ago, uneamie said:

There is some control over what goes into your lungs in certain situations. 

 

But smokers want to control what goes into other people's lungs, too. If smoker's want to use nicotine gum, I don't care as long as the gum ends up in the trash instead of on the floor, furniture, etc.. Second-hand smoke kills thousands of non-smoking people per year. 

 

 

[uneamie]

16 minutes ago, Two Wheels Only said:

 

Says who? 😀

 

 

But smokers want to control what goes into other people's lungs, too. If smoker's want to use nicotine gum, I don't care as long as the gum ends up in the trash instead of on the floor, furniture, etc.. Second-hand smoke kills thousands of non-smoking people per year. 

 

 

I said in "certain situations"...or did you not read that? That said, you have control over not being around smokers by not being around smokers. It's that simple. Don't go to places where they are. I am not a smoker but I avoid smoking areas or buildings or places that allow it. 

[detroitlions]

Just off the Joy there is no smoking in Spice H20. Smoking was allowed in the casino enclosed area the smoke jail on the pool deck and cigars in the humidor. The did not create the area near the humidor for cigarettes' like originally announced.

[Two Wheels Only]

12 minutes ago, uneamie said:

I said in "certain situations"...or did you not read that? That said, you have control over not being around smokers by not being around smokers. It's that simple. Don't go to places where they are. I am not a smoker but I avoid smoking areas or buildings or places that allow it. 

 

I have no problem with smokers who smoke in the smoking areas. It's the people who "don't like therefore..." don't follow the ship's policy on smoking areas then smoke in other areas that are a problem.

 

If NCL has 5, 3, or only 1 smoking area, smokers should abide. 

 

If non-smokers walk into a smoking area and complain, I side with the smokers. The smokers are following the policy. 

[TenForward]

On 3/8/2024 at 10:01 AM, cruiseny4life said:

So...umm...yea...back to the topic? Without the judgment? 

 

Can you smoke in Spice H2O or not? What has been the experience of those that have cruised in, say, the last three to four weeks? 

 

Sounds like you can't but I'll be able to confirm for certain in 18 days --  on the Getaway at least 🙂 

 

To me, it would make the most sense to have smoking in Spice H2O as it's the back of the ship and, particularly while the ship is moving, the smoke would stream off the back over the ocean.

 

[dbrown84]

20 minutes ago, TenForward said:

 

Sounds like you can't but I'll be able to confirm for certain in 18 days --  on the Getaway at least 🙂 

 

To me, it would make the most sense to have smoking in Spice H2O as it's the back of the ship and, particularly while the ship is moving, the smoke would stream off the back over the ocean.

 

but it's still allowed on the Getaway.  It was the Joy that smoking at Spice was removed

[TenForward]

1 minute ago, dbrown84 said:

but it's still allowed on the Getaway.  It was the Joy that smoking at Spice was removed

 

Ok, thanks. I wasn't sure... I thought I read somewhere that this was going to be fleetwide...eventually anyway.