whystayhome Posted June 16 #1 Share Posted June 16 I ran into the fluffy white dog whose harness proclaims “service dog” in the Observation Bar. Lulu is cute, but many people do not like the idea of an animal on the ship (other than a guide dog for a blind person). There are rumors flying around as to why Seabourn permits the owner, who seems quite nice by the way, to grant Lulu free range on the ship and a place on excursions. The most entertaining one I heard is that the owner is the on-board jeweler. Anyone who has met Lulu and her owner in the past have any other rumors/valid information to share? Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincslady Posted June 16 #2 Share Posted June 16 Sounds like the dog who has now done a few Seabourn cruises - attracting quite a lot of interest, so we may be in for a lot more posts about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluewaters Posted June 16 #3 Share Posted June 16 (edited) Interesting Edited June 16 by skybluewaters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whystayhome Posted June 17 Author #4 Share Posted June 17 Update. Yes, Lulu’s mommy is the in-house jewelry designer and it is written into her employment contract that the dog may accompany her wherever she goes on the ship. A highly reliable source provided this information. Apparently, not all the crew are enchanted about having Lulu on board. linda 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincslady Posted June 17 #5 Share Posted June 17 I wouldn't be, for one. Very unhygenic. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare highplanesdrifters Posted June 17 #6 Share Posted June 17 Time for a new jeweler. And not just because of the dog! 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caviarforme Posted June 18 #7 Share Posted June 18 20 hours ago, lincslady said: I wouldn't be, for one. Very unhygienic. Agreed - if the dog goes everywhere with the owner does is it allowed in the restaurants? In any case CC has had long discussions before on this issue which effect passengers who have allergies to animal fur/hair in confined areas and the majority view was not in favour of animals on board. We join Encore shortly and would not be amused. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firsttimers68 Posted June 18 #8 Share Posted June 18 I thought you meant the Scottish singer when I read the thread header. I wouldn't be overly thrilled with a dog on board, but such is life. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isklaar Posted June 18 #9 Share Posted June 18 5 hours ago, caviarforme said: Agreed - if the dog goes everywhere with the owner does is it allowed in the restaurants? . I cannot say that this specific dog is entering restaurants, but certainly there was a dog on Sojourn around two years ago that went everywhere, inncluding restaurants. It actually sat on chairs in SB Square and the O Lounge. I wasn't onboard but our very good friends were, and I have no reason to disbelieve their account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincslady Posted June 18 #10 Share Posted June 18 I wonder if this is the same dog and owner - I believe it was a fairly elderly lady who owned the dog on that cruise, so I would have thought that someone working on board would be likely to be below retiring age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isklaar Posted June 18 #11 Share Posted June 18 (edited) 54 minutes ago, lincslady said: I wonder if this is the same dog and owner - I believe it was a fairly elderly lady who owned the dog on that cruise, so I would have thought that someone working on board would be likely to be below retiring age? I think this may be a different dog. Edited June 18 by Isklaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjs217 Posted June 18 #12 Share Posted June 18 I wonder why someone who needs a service dog would work on a ship which is not close to serious medical care should the need arise. If one is visually impaired, how do they design jewelry? If it is a comfort dog, again, why would one sail if luxury sailing requires the need to be comforted. Are you afraid of water? It's very confusing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahogany Posted June 18 #13 Share Posted June 18 5 minutes ago, jjs217 said: I wonder why someone who needs a service dog would work on a ship which is not close to serious medical care should the need arise. If one is visually impaired, how do they design jewelry? If it is a comfort dog, again, why would one sail if luxury sailing requires the need to be comforted. Are you afraid of water? It's very confusing. I think the answer is that this dog is not a service dog, just a personal pet with a fake harness. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunate 2 travel Posted June 18 #14 Share Posted June 18 What if everyone who had a dog got the emotional support card and wanted to bring them onboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasandSyb Posted June 18 #15 Share Posted June 18 We recently did a HAL cruise. After spending the first 3 days in our room curled in a foetal position, we discovered a couple in their 70s with an “assistance” dog. The pomeranian variety was kept in the basket of her wheelie walker so we assumed it was hers. Each day there seemed to be a relaxation of their containment of the dog. It went from the walker to his arms, to the floor, to the seat next to them, to eating from their hands to eating off the table licking plates. Other guests were approaching patting it as it jumped up on the back of couches to greet them. Often it trotted along behind them around the ship. I believed other than guide dogs, that assistance dogs were trained to provide help to a specific family member and others were not to interact as it should not be treated as a pet. It seems there are various shades of grey as in life. We live in an apartment and many people have dogs. We love dogs and have had several when we had a house. Guide/assistance dogs yes. Comfort dogs no unless contained somewhere below for a ship repositioning/transatlantic etc. like other animals in transit or quarantine. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labonnevie Posted June 18 #16 Share Posted June 18 10 hours ago, firsttimers68 said: I wouldn't be overly thrilled with a dog on board, but such is life. I, for one, am getting really tired of being expected to accept the unacceptable. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covepointcruiser Posted June 18 #17 Share Posted June 18 The dog may be for epilepsy or diabetic services. If it’s vest states service then it is not a support animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasandSyb Posted June 18 #18 Share Posted June 18 The dog I mentioned had no identifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluewaters Posted June 18 #19 Share Posted June 18 This is from Seabourn's accessibility terms: Seabourn only permits service animals on board, defined as those animals that are individually trained to provide assistance to an individual with a disability. We do not permit our guests to bring pets, therapy/companion animals, and other animals that do not meet the definition of service animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AveSaloon Posted June 19 #20 Share Posted June 19 Be glad you have just A dog onboard. Today on the Silver Shadow, two men (I won't use gentlemen) walked into La Terrazza for lunch, each with a large poodle on a long leash. Sometimes I think the ADA was the worst law ever passed by Congress, right behind the income tax. Well intentioned, but fatally flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincslady Posted June 19 #21 Share Posted June 19 This is getting beyond a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluewaters Posted June 19 #22 Share Posted June 19 12 hours ago, AveSaloon said: Today on the Silver Shadow, two men (I won't use gentlemen) walked into La Terrazza for lunch, each with a large poodle on a long leash. 12 hours ago, lincslady said: This is getting beyond a joke! Two men walk into a restaurant with poodles on leashes... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whystayhome Posted June 24 Author #23 Share Posted June 24 Lulu’s mommy is much younger than the average Seabourn passenger, so this is a different dog. Another woman had the dog in her lap on the pool deck the other day. I nearly tripped over Lulu in the outdoor portion of the Colonnade yesterday. So many of use are one fall away from never traveling again. Cobblestones and ruins are one thing… Linda 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincslady Posted June 24 #24 Share Posted June 24 Yes, probably as mentioned someone working on the ship. Therefore, definitely not a needed dog for someone disabled! The thin end of the wedge is getting wider. I think if I were on board I would complain to management, and contact SB when I got home, as most right minded people would feel that pet dogs and cruise ships do not blend well. Plus, as far as I know, they are not allowed according to cruising rules. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizinsider Posted June 26 #25 Share Posted June 26 I wonder if this is the same white fluffy dog that was on our Norway cruise on the Ovation last June. (What say you, @SLSD?) I don't remember what the owner looked like, but her traveling companion was an older guy - well, maybe my age 🤷♂️🤣 - who was always dressed in a coat and maybe tie, even on the excursions. The dog even went up one to the top of one the lighthouses with us! Hey, @whystayhome, imagine the dog on Magdalena Island with those penguins. (Hint: We did part of the walk with you!) Cheers, Herb and Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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