Beverage Waiver for 18-20 gone? It just printed out!

[Borat]

I don't want to open a can of worms here but my son who is 19 is in the military...I find it interesting he's old enough to risk his life but not enjoy some of the simple pleasures of being an adult.:confused:

 

yes...can anyone please explain this? Id like to hear a convincing explanation, but i wont be surprised if i dont see one...

[pcur]

The US is the only country in the world that 21 is the legal drinking age where it's enforced. What I disagree with is why RCI and X have decided that the rest of the world be damned, they're following the US laws. We're not all from the US.

 

As for the adults being "legally" drunk... the Ship is sailing in International Waters.... are you telling me they are different International Waters when their ships are in Europe and they allow the Waiver?

 

I think you missed my point, or I didn't word it correctly: the adults can legally get drunk, and RCCL won't be fined for serving alcohol to them.

 

The policy about the 18 - 20 yo's is based on the port the ship leaves from, not the fact that it's in international waters. If it leaves from a European port, then the legal age is 18, etc.

 

Yes, being homebased in the U.S., and leaving from U.S. ports, they ARE obligated to obey U.S. laws. The new policy even states something about legal regulations, blah, blah, blah.

[wrp96]

Most actually have the parental waiver.

 

Actually, RCCL was the only major US cruiseline that had the parental waiver. The rest all have a drinking age of 21, with no exceptions.

[Guest LetMeGo]

I find it a bit sad that some people are going on a $1000 cruise just to be able to drink. There are oher ways to spend your time besides that, you know.

 

If alcohol was invented in the 20th century, and hadn't become the "socialising standard" it is, it would be a controlled substance just like any other drugs. At least 99.999 % of the people drinking it are not doing it because it tastes good. Most people drink because it others do, and the minority who have made the decision to drink for themselves, are doing it to chemically alter their state of mind. Relaxing, unwinding... whatever you call it, it's still the same. It's a fix to get you high.

 

Sorry if I offended someone, but I refuse to believe that getting drunk is something we should work towards.

[seamama1]

Most actually have the parental waiver.

 

No they don't! That was an RCCL bright idea!

[seamama1]

yes...can anyone please explain this? Id like to hear a convincing explanation, but i wont be surprised if i dont see one...

 

It is unfair, but true nonetheless. Most 19 year olds don't just drink one or two "to enjoy the pleasures of life." They drink to get snockered! Therein is the problem.

[phtktz3]

I find it a bit sad that some people are going on a $1000 cruise just to be able to drink. There are oher ways to spend your time besides that, you know.

 

If alcohol was invented in the 20th century, and hadn't become the "socialising standard" it is, it would be a controlled substance just like any other drugs. At least 99.999 % of the people drinking it are not doing it because it tastes good. Most people drink because it others do, and the minority who have made the decision to drink for themselves, are doing it to chemically alter their state of mind. Relaxing, unwinding... whatever you call it, it's still the same. It's a fix to get you high.

 

Sorry if I offended someone, but I refuse to believe that getting drunk is something we should work towards.

 

 

I know I certainly do not go on a $1000 cruise just to get drunk, but I do enjoy a few cocktails from time to time and as far as it altering my state of mind.....that may be just to put up with uptight folks who think they are better than anyone who drinks alcohol.

[forpaws]

I don't want to open a can of worms here but my son who is 19 is in the military...I find it interesting he's old enough to risk his life but not enjoy some of the simple pleasures of being an adult.:confused:

 

east--

 

I know and respect that we are all entitled to our opinion. Having said that, I've always thought that it seemed a bit unfair to tell someone who is old enough to risk his/her life on the front line that he/she can't have a cold one. I still live in a "dry" county--how's that for archaic? We have to drive 45 minutes each way to buy a six-pack! Oh well...no one's making me live here. :p

 

Have a great Saturday night everyone!

[kpgclark]

The reason the drinking law is 21 is because teenagers don't vote!

[EydieG]

I don't want to open a can of worms here but my son who is 19 is in the military...I find it interesting he's old enough to risk his life but not enjoy some of the simple pleasures of being an adult.:confused:

 

I agree with you as my son is also in the military.

My question is does this also apply to married couples? My son will be celebrating his honeymoon on a cruise in about 6 weeks (both he and the bride are over 20 but not quite 21). They asked if they will be allowed to have any tropical drinks and I told them I would try to find out.

Thanks.

[Cruise Junky]

No they don't! That was an RCCL bright idea!

 

Celebrity still has the waiver for cruises outside North America and my friends who cruise 4 or 5 times a year have no problem having their 19 year old son have a few drinks. They cruise HAL and Princess. Guess not all of them follow "the Rules".

[angelpug]

I agree with you as my son is also in the military.

My question is does this also apply to married couples? My son will be celebrating his honeymoon on a cruise in about 6 weeks (both he and the bride are over 20 but not quite 21). They asked if they will be allowed to have any tropical drinks and I told them I would try to find out.

Thanks.

 

I would contact RCCL on this one, and ask someone directly, and if they say yes, have them fax somwthing so they have it in writing that they can.

 

But in my opinion (and it's just my opinion), if they were here in the US, and 20, it's still 20, and they can only have those celebration drinks at private parties/receptions where an adult host is willing to take the responsibility. RCCL ships are public places.

 

Also, as far as the military....as soon as our sons and daughters leave this country to serve, then they also get to follow the laws in that country on the drinking age. Both of my sons are US Navy, and the youngest at 20 can drink up to two beers a week (the Navy's guidelines) with the other sailors once they leave port (it's up to each ship's commanders). Also when they're in Italy, Greece, Africa, they get to drink while on liberty. Yeah, it stinks that the country they're serving cuts them off once their back on home soil!! I feel anyone with an active duty military ID card should be able to show that as ID, and be able to have a beer!

 

Take care,

Jaime

[wrp96]

Celebrity still has the waiver for cruises outside North America and my friends who cruise 4 or 5 times a year have no problem having their 19 year old son have a few drinks. They cruise HAL and Princess. Guess not all of them follow "the Rules".

 

RCCL and Celebrity have the same alcohol policy. And yes, the waiver does still exist for cruises out of Europe and South America even on RCCL, but not for North American cruises.

 

Princess and HAL both have a drinking age of 21, they've never had the waiver. If your friend's kids are drinking, then they aren't doing it with the approval of the cruiseline.

[Cruise Junky]

RCCL and Celebrity have the same alcohol policy. And yes, the waiver does still exist for cruises out of Europe and South America even on RCCL, but not for North American cruises.

 

Princess and HAL both have a drinking age of 21, they've never had the waiver. If your friend's kids are drinking, then they aren't doing it with the approval of the cruiseline.

 

They've been served openly in the dining room. But this conversation is going absolutely no where I stopped cruising RCI in 1999 because of their policies.

[Merion_Mom]

They've been served openly in the dining room. But this conversation is going absolutely no where I stopped cruising RCI in 1999 because of their policies.

Then I just HAVE TO ask the question...............

 

Why are you posting on a thread on the Royal Caribbean board about a Royal Caribbean policy????????????? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[DancerOT]

The reason the drinking law is 21 is because teenagers don't vote!

 

Please dont make generalizations like that. I personally find it rude and insulting - Im sorry, I dont mean to offend you....but you offended me. I started voting once I turned 18. I voted for a president at 19. I voted in local elections as well. I recall my older brother being very mad that his birthday came 3 days too late to be able to vote the year he turned 18 (he has an early November birthday). The teens you know may not vote, but they are not all of the teens across America, so please do not make generalizations as such.

[UCF_Cruiser]

AMEN!!! I even vote in primary and local elections!

 

Lazarus: i agree with you. I am cruising with my family (well my fiance's family) and we were looking forward to "toasting" our vacation with a glass of wine at dinner.

 

Oh well, it won't be the end of the world, and I'll still have a great vacation!

 

(now if i couldn't go to the casino, that would be another story!)

[tezbear]

I haven't been on the boards lately so am surprised to see this change so quickly. We were just on the FOS in mid June and the drinking age change was not in effect yet. So I guess this means they cannot go into the Crypt if under 21 also (since they serve alcohol there)? That place will be dead w/out this age group. Also, how can they be allowed to gamble if there is alcohol served there too? The reason most casinos don't allow under 21 to gamble is because there is alcohol. We have a few Indian Casinos where I live that are 18 and over only because there is no alcohol in the casino.

 

It's too bad some have to ruin a privilege for others. My sons are good kids and when they were allowed to drink on 2 of our cruises, they were never drunk. They paced themselves and acted responsibly. They are in college so I know they will be drinking anyway. But we need to teach them to drink responsibly, etc. My kids also know we weren't going to be paying the bill for all their drinks so they were very tame. Not everyone in this age group behave badly...like many other said, I saw a few drunken scenes from...ADULTS!

[tenbylin]

Hi! We are leaving this Saturday for our cruise. I just printed my online check in for the set sail pass. Behind the set sail pass was the drinking waver....it stated that the age is 21, however in international waters a person 18-20 yrs of age can have beer and or wine with a signed waiver. The waiver must be signed by the persons parents and the parents must be on the ship with them...

[angelpug]

Hi! We are leaving this Saturday for our cruise. I just printed my online check in for the set sail pass. Behind the set sail pass was the drinking waver....it stated that the age is 21, however in international waters a person 18-20 yrs of age can have beer and or wine with a signed waiver. The waiver must be signed by the persons parents and the parents must be on the ship with them...

 

That's only for cruises that depart out of Europe or S. America. They still come up on Caribbean/Bermuda Cruises, but aren't valid since the drinking age is now 21.

 

Even with those Beverage Waivers printed, they still aren't taken by the Pier Agents when you board. They have a seperate waiver that must be signed by both parties...parent/adult child, stating they know all the rules, and will adhere to them. I have no idea why they even have the Beverage Waivers to be printed beforehand anyway! (My daughter and I cruised together on July 7th....by the way...I LOVE spending time with my older kids 18-22 (and the ALL VOTE), and we had the beverage waiver printed out ahead of time, but they handed my pre printed one back, and had us sign a seperate one in front of them as witnesses!

 

Oh yeah...even though drinking age is 21, "minor" adults can do anything on the ship an adult can, except drink (same as being at home!! Here in WV the 18-20 year olds can go to the clubs to dance with a stamp on their hand saying no alcohol, and even go to the track to place bets on the horses, and play the slots. This change in RCCL policy is really NOT such a big deal.)

 

Take Care,

jaime

[tezbear]

Jaime...Interesting about how the laws are different in WV than here in CA. Here in Calif, if alcohol is being served on the premisis, then adults under 21 are not allowed to attend. They have specific clubs and casinos here that are for 18-20 yrs olds and therefore do not serve alcohol. If alcohol is served, they can't be there...same rules in Vegas too. For being 21, alcohol seems to be the real issue not the gambling. Why can't the laws be consistent in the US?..strange.

 

So I guess the 18-20 yrs old can still go the the Crypt? I'm sure many kids will just be getting the booze from someone who is 21...if they really want to do it, they will find a way. 18-20 yrs olds are only supposed to have beer and wine but on our most recent cruise, there were many being served mixed drinks by the bartenders.

[seamama1]

Hi! We are leaving this Saturday for our cruise. I just printed my online check in for the set sail pass. Behind the set sail pass was the drinking waver....it stated that the age is 21, however in international waters a person 18-20 yrs of age can have beer and or wine with a signed waiver. The waiver must be signed by the persons parents and the parents must be on the ship with them...

 

Waivers no longer exist except for Europe and South America ports. You must be 21 to consume alcohol. Read the information on the website! It has been there for a while and became effective on July 28!:cool:

[Borat]

Waivers no longer exist except for Europe and South America ports. You must be 21 to consume alcohol. Read the information on the website! It has been there for a while and became effective on July 28!:cool:

 

but its still 18-20 for clubs and casino, right?

[Merion_Mom]

Jaime...Interesting about how the laws are different in WV than here in CA. Here in Calif, if alcohol is being served on the premisis, then adults under 21 are not allowed to attend. They have specific clubs and casinos here that are for 18-20 yrs olds and therefore do not serve alcohol. If alcohol is served, they can't be there...same rules in Vegas too. For being 21, alcohol seems to be the real issue not the gambling. Why can't the laws be consistent in the US?..strange.

 

So I guess the 18-20 yrs old can still go the the Crypt? I'm sure many kids will just be getting the booze from someone who is 21...if they really want to do it, they will find a way. 18-20 yrs olds are only supposed to have beer and wine but on our most recent cruise, there were many being served mixed drinks by the bartenders.

States certainly do have different laws.

 

I am amazed that a SIXTEEN year old is allowed in PA to work in a bar or restaurant and an EIGHTEEN year old is allowed to serve drinks!

 

All in a state that strictly regulates the sale of all alcoholic beverages and that, of course, has a drinking age of 21.

[Merion_Mom]

but its still 18-20 for clubs and casino, right?

Yes, Borat, 18 is still the minimum age for clubs and casino.