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At what point is it morally and ethically okay to take a chair that has a unused towel on it....

 

5 minutes

10 minutes

15 minutes

30 minutes

1 hr

 

NEVER????

 

Where can someone draw the line from a morally and ethically standpoint and say, "Enough is enough...sorry Sally, I'm taking this lounger!"

 

What's fair? hearing horror stories about loungers in the shade by the MUTS.

 

Thanks for all your honest opinions.

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I think this is a great question indeed. On our Crown cruise, Sept 12, there were so MANY people doing this. One particular couple stood out. I don't know what time they went and put there towels on, but I will give you an average day with them. We arrived at the pool around 9am, there chairs were taken with their towels, 11 AM they showed up to use them. At noon they left, presumably to eat, took one more hour, 1pm they showed up to use them. This might have lasted 5 minutes, and they were both in the pool for the entire afternoon. I found this selfish beyond anything. We are a family of 4, and we took 2 chairs, as I knew my kids would not use them, why HOG them????

 

This couple did this daily. Had I not had a chair, I would not have had an issue with taking theirs, after I waited 30 min or a bit more. This would give anyone enough time to eat lunch, as they only had coverups on, so they only went to the buffet.

 

I would hope most people would not be so selfish, and to be honest this couple was the only one hogging. They need to have some personnel when this stuff gets out of hand..

 

My 2 cents, a lot longer than you expected..I am sorry;)

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What are the official rules in regards to this? Is this even permitted (saving chairs)?

 

No saving of chairs is permitted. How is one to know? Like, how would the staff know if they are not standing there timing it? I did not see anyone removing anyone's stuff. I saw many wanting to do it.

 

On our patter it was written, anything removed can be picked up at one of the pool's bars.

 

Honestly, I think it is like common courtesy. But let's not go there..:rolleyes:

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What's fair? hearing horror stories about loungers in the shade by the MUTS.

 

Thanks for all your honest opinions.

 

We were on the CB and I can tell you the loungers in MUTS area were never filled the 2 sea days when I went thru. You have to pass thru the MUTS area to get to the buffet and drink station from the other pool.

 

There was plenty of room to drag a lounger to the shade. (there are tables and chairs in the shade also)

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There is a rule, but I don't remember the time frame, maybe 30 minutes. I find this incrediably ignorant. Particularily since I only like to go out by the pool for maybe an hour to read and then leave and have to hunt for a chair. I know of a lady who was furious at the ship staff because her husband went up by the pool early in the morning to put towels on several chairs to save them for family members while they were all still in bed sleeping and the staff wouldn't let him.

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I'd give it an hour at meal time & 30 minutes at other times.

 

Paul

 

When you leave a seat at the table, in a casino...you're usually given 15 minutes. This is the same, whether for bio-break, or food.

 

After this, someone else can have your seat.

 

 

Now...in the MEANTIME, anyone can play your spot...with the understanding that if you return in under 15 mins...you get it back.

 

Same rule could apply, I would expect. If you sit on a chair, and nobody claims it within 15 mins....it's yours.

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That is kind of what I was thinking also. If the chair is not occupied I would use it, placing the personal items neatly on the deck by the chair. If the person who left the items comes back within 30 minutes from when I sat down, I would turn it back over to them. If they return after 30 minutes I would gently remind them that you cannot save chairs and this one had been emtpy for over 30 minutes.

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I noticed a lot of people leaving their towels behind when they left their loungers, not because they were saving the seat, but because they didn't want to be bothered with carrying their towels back to their rooms. In other words, just because you see a chair with a towel on in doesn't necessarily mean anyone will be coming back to claim the chair.

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On my recent cruise, one couple reserved two chairs, early every morning, but didn't use them for a couple of hours. I was very tempted to move the towels, but that would have been hostile and I didn't want the hastle. However, if I needed somewhere to sit and there were no free chairs, then I would do so, after a stake-out!:)

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Has anyone ever been confronted by people after you removed their towels? I'd think that anyone sitting around a chair that someone has done this would stick up for the person who took the chair that wasn't occupied for more than 30 minutes.

 

I know if I saw that happen, I'd defend the person who took over the seat if it hadn't been occupied for a half hour.

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I had this experience on Carnival Glory this spring....

 

Wife and I are looking for chairs (at 9:30 am). Of course, 95% are already saved and maybe 5% are actually occupied.

 

We find an empty chair, 4 saved beside it, and then another empty. What I do is slide take one empty out, slide the saved chairs down one space each, and move an empty in beside the other empty.

 

Just as we sit down, a woman comes out and loses her mind with us. I explain to her that we did not take her chairs ... we simply reloceted them about 30 inches from their original spot ... and by the way saving chairs is not permitted anyway. She huffed and puffed some more .. but eventually shut-up.

 

She then left and did not come back for another 45 minutes.

 

Go figure.....

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I had this experience on Carnival Glory this spring....

 

Wife and I are looking for chairs (at 9:30 am). Of course, 95% are already saved and maybe 5% are actually occupied.

 

We find an empty chair, 4 saved beside it, and then another empty. What I do is slide take one empty out, slide the saved chairs down one space each, and move an empty in beside the other empty.

 

Just as we sit down, a woman comes out and loses her mind with us. I explain to her that we did not take her chairs ... we simply reloceted them about 30 inches from their original spot ... and by the way saving chairs is not permitted anyway. She huffed and puffed some more .. but eventually shut-up.

 

She then left and did not come back for another 45 minutes.

 

Go figure.....

 

She probably fitted a tracking device, which bleeped when they were moved!

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Has anyone ever been confronted by people after you removed their towels?

 

My DH and I took our 3 daughters and MIL with us on a Carnical Cruise. The ship was way over booked. We couldn't even get a seat at a table. 2 of our daughters found 1 chair, one took the chair that was next to a saved chair. She laid on the floor (on a towel) for 45 minutes then took the stuff off the chair and put it on the floor. She was on the chair another 30 minutes when the woman came back. The woman was furious. I was so proud of my daughter for calmly explaining to the woman that she had been gone over an hour and there was no chair saving. The woman continued to berate my daughter (she was 23, so I was biting my tounge. didnt want mummy to interfer dont you know) anyway my daughter finally told the lady that the staff is the one who told her to remove the items (which is true). The lady huffed and stormed off. LOL. Dont you know that we kept bumping into that lady from then on.

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If I can find a chair or two together, I don't bother anyone's saved chairs. Life is too short and it's not that big of a deal to me. There are always empty chairs somewhere if you just look hard enough. If you had spent time by the pool and took a break and something took longer than anticipated, would you appreciate coming back to your chair and finding someone in it? I just think this gets blown way out of proportion. I've been on 8 cruises and chair hogs just have never kept me from finding a seat and enjoying myself. That being said, if someone is saving chairs and never showing up - that's a different story altogether.

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I like the pool. I like to read by the pool. I like to have a drink by the pool. If I am there I usually have a book/sunglasses/drink etc nearby on or around my chair and am sometimes in the pool. I would NEVER go inside the ship, have lunch or whatever, and expect my stuff to be there when I returned. If I am near the pool and want a seat and no other belongings are around but a towel....I politely take the towel off and take the chair. People who do that and expect to have their seats there for them are annoying and inconsiderate and should learn to deal with the consequences.

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On the Golden in 2002, I got a chair in the shade about 8am, hung out the entire morning til early afternoon reading, swimming, eating etc.. I was never gone more than 15-20 minutes at a clip. About 815am, a mother about 60 and daughter about 40 came along, put their stuff on two chairs, actually DRAGGED the chairs to the spot they wanted, NEVER sat in them ONE, left , and HOURS went by..about 120, a nice elderly couple came by and were looking for chairs..They asked me"Do you know if anyone had those"?? They said they walked by several times during the morning and never saw anyone sitting in them..I said "No one is using them", let me get the stuff off"...I took the stuff and removed it putting it next to the chairs...The couple thanked me, sat down and as fate would have it, the mother-daughter came back within 10 minutes, angry as hornets that someone would take "Their chairs'..The elderly couple, to their credit said "Sorry, nothing was here on the chairs, when we got here, a long time ago"..The mother and darling daughter stormed off threatening to "get security"...never saw them again..Made my DAY!!!!!

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