Curfew

[madforcruising]

Well I disagree that it´s not about alcohol and bars, because it´s especially the disco they card the youngins and enforce the rule but as this is about personal opinions we will never get to agree here.

 

And RCI has his history with unruly kids too, just to mention the fir a few kids put on the roller skating track on one of the Voyager class ships (I think it was Explorer) few years ago.

[CruiserNic]

If I'm not mistaking, the curfew is for any public area. Not bars or lounges. Kids under 18 aren't allowed to sit at/in the bar anyway.

 

But the OP said that the kids had moved to the casino because they were not bothered in there. Yet, they are not supposed to be in the casino at all ever, so...........

[jad7984]

I don't think it's about the bars because if a kid wanted to get a drink, they would go about it the same way at 10:25 pm as they would at 1:45am.

 

IMO, cruise lines are very effective in limiting underage drinking. Before I turned 21, it was pretty hard for me to get a drink (yes, I tried). They watch closely.

 

I just think they don't want a group of loud kids walking around after 1am.

[jad7984]

But the OP said that the kids had moved to the casino because they were not bothered in there. Yet, they are not supposed to be in the casino at all ever, so...........

 

so..... what? I'm not following.

 

I wonder why they weren't bothered in there.:confused:

[madforcruising]

 

I just think they don't want a group of loud kids walking around after 1am.

 

If it did, there would be a curfew 24 hours a day!

 

 

Well I don´t think they want a group of loud kids walking around anytime, so if this would be the reason ther would be a curfew 24 hours a day:rolleyes:

[newmexicoNita]

Just came back from a week on the Jewell of the Seas. We went with a group of High School Seniors most of them 18 a couple of them will be 18 within a month. RCL has adopted a strict under 18 curfew which if you are travelling with a 17 year old you should know about. At 1 O'Clock all teenagers are carded and the kids not 18 yet are sent back to their cabin (the one exception the group found out was in the Casino where it seems the curfew is not enforced at all). This of cousre encourages the group to either go to a single room which creates noise issues or hang out at the Casino (something the parents do not want). If you have a 17 year old who is travelling with 18 year old friends this is a major annoyance

Poor babies; sorry, I have no sympathy: under age kids, I don't care if they are 24 hours from 18 should have a curview. I guess I am showing my age, I don't know why all these kids need to have these awesome trips in the first place? Are they the same kids that will take senior trips the week after graduation? NMnita

[negc]

you could not have put this any better, if teens are just hanging out and talking not loud or disturbing anyone LET THEM BE this is there vacation too, i am 18, and yes i was carded once the whole trip while i was with my almost 18 year old and 17 year cousin and they left us alone since we were just walking and enjoying the night on the ship, no big deal.

 

now if there are teens causing trouble by all means enforce the curfew, these are the kids that make it bad for the rest of the teen who are curtious and polite.

 

So you would wait for them to cause trouble before enforcing the curfew? How about recognizing that they are violating the curfew by their very presence in public areas after the time established for them to return to their rooms. Of course the kids who cause trouble are ruining it for the rest of you, but nobody said life was fair, and you should be directing your complaint to those troublemakers and not the ship's authorities that are trying to provide all guests with a pleasurable vacation.:)

[jad7984]

Well I don´t think they want a group of loud kids walking around anytime, so if this would be the reason ther would be a curfew 24 hours a day:rolleyes:

 

People are loud on cruises, especially during the day. Ever go to the pool deck? The teen center? The Royal Promenade? The Windjammer? Loud people everywhere.

 

They wouldn't go out of their way to make a curfew for kids under 18 just because they don't want them to drink. If it were about drinking, the curfew would be for people under 21.

 

Also, vandalism and lack of supervision probably comes into play here. Again, I see where RCCL is coming from, even if I may not agree with it.

[katiel53]

I disagree. People should be able to do what they want without the cruise line playing babysitter. As I said before, as long as the kids aren't being loud, annoying, belligerent or causing trouble. If they're well-behaved, how are they bothering you? I'll agree with a curfew for kids under 16, that's fair. But 18? Nah, not right. If people don't like seeing kids around the ship at night, then cruise on a smaller ship with less kids or a line geared more toward adults.

 

 

You are twisting my words just as you said someone did to you. I did NOT say I didn't like seeing kids at night. I took my son on cruises when he was a teen. 1AM is plenty late enough for a 17 year old to be out. I wouldn't allow him to be out at 1AM at home unless it was a special event, so why should he have been allowed out after 1?

 

I agree that ships shouldn't have to be the babysitter, but I have seen many occasions where they have had to be. We will never agree on this, so you keep your opinion and I will keep mine, but please don't put words in my mouth.

 

Katie

[isujim]

Curfew aside..................

 

I would hope the one thing everyone can agree on is that RC is a public company with stockholders and directors.........they have every RIGHT to set RULES for their business...........I would think no one can disagree with this.........

 

Enforcement........well that may be another issue and thread altogether........

 

but as a stockholder..........I understand the need for rules and appreciate any attempt to enforce them

[madforcruising]

Curfew aside..................

 

I would hope the one thing everyone can agree on is that RC is a public company with stockholders and directors.........they have every RIGHT to set RULES for their business...........I would think no one can disagree with this.........

 

Enforcement........well that may be another issue and thread altogether........

 

but as a stockholder..........I understand the need for rules and appreciate any attempt to enforce them

 

I totally agree!!!

[madforcruising]

Again, I see where RCCL is coming from, even if I may not agree with it.

 

 

Yep, nobody forces you to agree with it and that´s fine with me. Fortunately as it looks like RCCL stepped up the plate and made sure (at least on this sailing the OP is reporting about) that all who didn´t agree with it were forced to follow it anyway. And I hope they read the boards and hear / read the applause from most on here for their action and spread it out fleetwide and consistent. While they get so much complaints here it´s time to say " RCCL - well done"

[myboysnaa]

I am taking my boys (18 & 20) on a cruise in June and they are each bringing a friend. The friends will not be 18 until the end of June. I do trust them completely and they too always tell me where they are and when they will be back. This cruise is for my 18 year old, he is going into the U.S. Marines in August. I am sure they will always act mature as there are! I told them no drinking, and they are not in the U.S. so no messing around, and they all are just fine with it! Should be a real fun time! :)

[jad7984]

You are twisting my words just as you said someone did to you. I did NOT say I didn't like seeing kids at night.

 

No you said "I don't want to have kids hanging around after 1am."

 

How is this any different? I didn't put any words in your mouth, as I quoted you verbatim.

[BethCarp]

Yes I know. I'm saying those who are 16 and 17 should not be limited. For kids 15 and under, yes, there should be a curfew.

Then there will be someone who doesn't think 14- and 15-year-olds need curfew. The line has to be drawn somewhere and RCI drew it at 18. And that, being the legal adult age, makes the most sense.

[myboysnaa]

Thank you That is my feelings as well. Here is my son going off to the Marines in June, we will only see him for a couple weeks a year for the next 4 yearsand so he will need to retire to his room because his girlfriend will not be 18 until we return (the next week) They are both very mature and I trust them. I am sure we will have fun no matter what but I was surprised to see this thread.....Thanks (Guess i booked too early, thought he was getting called right from graduation should have waited a week!)

[KtBarker]

OK so after skimming this thread, one of the points that I feel hasn't been addressed or stressed is the fact that RCI may not be enforcing this rule to avoid 'rowdy' teenagers, but may be enforcing it for the safety of them.

 

Even if you are the best behaved 17 year old girl, when you get tired and wander back to your cabin solo (even if it's not typical and you typically travel in groups) you don't know who you are going to encounter on your trip back.

 

I think the bottom line is RCI has this policy in place for reasons other than to 'ruin' a MINORS vacation, and is probably partly in place for the safety of their minor guests.

[madforcruising]

OK so after skimming this thread, one of the points that I feel hasn't been addressed or stressed is the fact that RCI may not be enforcing this rule to avoid 'rowdy' teenagers, but may be enforcing it for the safety of them.

 

Even if you are the best behaved 17 year old girl, when you get tired and wander back to your cabin solo (even if it's not typical and you typically travel in groups) you don't know who you are going to encounter on your trip back.

 

I think the bottom line is RCI has this policy in place for reasons other than to 'ruin' a MINORS vacation, and is probably partly in place for the safety of their minor guests.

 

 

Ahh c´mon, we all know that it´s not RCI´s goal to protect us they just want to make money and ruin our cruise experience by putting all these rules up.;) :rolleyes:

[CPT Trips]

Neither.........it was tongue in cheek...........In 13 cruises.......I've tried my best to follow ALL the rules.:)

 

All the rules! Even the ones you don't like? :)

[isujim]

All the rules! Even the ones you don't like? :)

 

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:) I understand the need for rules......even the ones I may not agree with........and by the way.........98% of them.......I agree with..........

 

but certainly 100% accept their right to have whatever rules they desire to have;)

[MissKise]

I think this was a great job by the ship and crew to stand by their rule. I am glad to hear that the ship did it's job.

 

Nice to see some things do apply.

[BigBrit]

Thank you That is my feelings as well. Here is my son going off to the Marines in June, we will only see him for a couple weeks a year for the next 4 yearsand so he will need to retire to his room because his girlfriend will not be 18 until we return (the next week) They are both very mature and I trust them. I am sure we will have fun no matter what but I was surprised to see this thread.....Thanks (Guess i booked too early, thought he was getting called right from graduation should have waited a week!)

 

The reason I started this thread was NOT to look for sympathy as I realize that 90% of people who were going to respond will agree to the curfew and frankly this will not impact us in the future but to warn others that may be in a similar situation (see above) that this can cause some annoyance. I do believe that private and public companies have every right to enforce their rules wether I think the rules are fair or not. I formly believe the reason they did not card in the casino was driven by the hope that they would gamble.

[KtBarker]

Ahh c´mon, we all know that it´s not RCI´s goal to protect us they just want to make money and ruin our cruise experience by putting all these rules up.;) :rolleyes:

 

But they do want to protect themselves from any sort of lawsuit...

 

'My 17 y/o child was out at 2am alone, and when a crew member walked past her and the boat rocked he purposely touched her inappropriately... :cool:'

 

They don't want to have to follow the rules, but I'm sure there are some out there that would have no problem suing even though they were letting their kids break them.. :eek:

 

But yea, I agree I think the main reason is to ruin everyones cruise experience...Did I mention on my last cruise (with CCL) that I was carded to get in the disco at 2am! (And I'm 26!) Definitely ruined my cruise, I wanted to get off at the next port... I also felt CCL owed me a full refund for enforcing their rules.

[Nitra]

I found the following information on the RCCL website under the guest vacation policy. I was searching for something and ran across this..

 

 

Curfews

Ship’s management reserves the right to enact curfews on an individual, group, or ship-wide basis, if in the sole judgment of the ship’s Captain, such steps become necessary to ensure guest or crew safety.

 

Disembarking a Ship

Parents or guardians must not permit any guest in their care under age 18 from leaving a ship in any port without responsible adult supervision.

 

Parental and Guardian Responsibility

For purposes of this Guest Conduct Policy, a minor is defined as anyone under the age of 21. Parents and guardians are responsible for the behavior and appropriate supervision of their accompanying minor(s) throughout their vacation. This obligation applies during transfers to and from ships, inside terminals, while onboard, at our ports of call, during shore excursions and at our private destinations. This responsibility applies at all times, regardless of whether the parents and guardians are physically in the company of their minor(s).

 

[Jay Bee]

At 1 O'Clock all teenagers are carded and the kids not 18 yet are sent back to their cabin (the one exception the group found out was in the Casino where it seems the curfew is not enforced at all).

 

Why should the curfew have to be enforced in the Casino?? Anyone in there should be 18 or over to begin with. I've been on ships where the casino age limit is enforced and others where the staff seems to tolerate children in there with their parents. Personally, I find it annoying in the same way kids in the Solarium are annoying. I don't mind kids on the ship, but if there is an adults-only place to retreat to once in a while, I expect to see no children.