happyscot Posted September 7, 2007 #101 Share Posted September 7, 2007 I've googled Pol Acker. Turns out he's the Dutch Transport Minister. Big on bikes. And dykes, obviously. But arn't we all. I like whisky. With whisky in it. I like the one no one can spell that sounds like Boonahaven. But is spelt bhgtrwqqqquhjklkljkjljjkhaven in that entrancing and bloody stupid gaelic way. Or Bowmore - slips down like a virgin's nightie (apparently - blimey where did that come from). But I always feel guilty buying malt (please explain to Americans that there's no such thing as "Skatch", and no such thing as "single malt") because people are starving and because the way I drink it would be an insult to the Gods who make it, and the God from whose tears it is made. Today I bought "Grants" which tastes like the pee of the Ork people but does the job. I like whisky It likes me The more I drink The les I pee I like whisky It does me good And tends to obviate The need for food. I like whisky I know when to stop When the bottle's empty Or when I drop. I've no idea who Jimmy Buffet is, but I bet he wishes he wrote that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic The Parrot Posted September 7, 2007 #102 Share Posted September 7, 2007 I've no idea who Jimmy Buffet is, but I bet he wishes he wrote that. He'll find some way, my friend .... You da man! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Posted September 7, 2007 #103 Share Posted September 7, 2007 I have seen it mentioned many times on this board as something like a sparkling grape juice mixed with mouth wash. Is it alcoholic? A champagne knock off? Thanks, just want to know what to expect! Hello Nina, In order to answer your original question "What exactly is Pol Acker?", the answer is that it is merely a 'blanc de blanc' still wine with carbon dioxide added in order to give it effervescence. Whatever Cunard may call it, it is certainly NOT a Champagne - not by any stretch of ones imagination! "Blanc de Blanc" is a French phrase meaning "white wine from white grapes." The term originated in France's Champagne region (where most champagnes are made from a combination of the white Chardonnay grape and the red Pinot Noir grape), to describe champagne made entirely from Chardonnay. Blanc de blancs are usually light and delicate. The term also refers to still wines. True champagne is expensive not only because it's made with premium grapes, but also because it's made by the 'Méthode Champenoise'. This traditional technique requires a second fermentation in the bottle, as well as some 100 hand operations (some of which are now mechanised using modern production techniques). Today, some champagne makers mix as many as thirty to forty or more different base wines to create the blend, or cuvée. Most major champagne houses strive for a cuvée that's consistent from year to year. As for the taste; well, when referring to champagne, the opposite of "dry" is "sweet", but in the case of Pol Acker, the opposite of "sweet" is certainly "sour". My personal description of its non-distinctive taste is that it is not too far removed from a blend of paint stripper and rocket fuel! Regards, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Nina Posted September 7, 2007 Author #104 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Hello Nina, In order to answer your original question "What exactly is Pol Acker?", the answer is that it is merely a 'blanc de blanc' still wine with carbon dioxide added in order to give it effervescence. Whatever Cunard may call it, it is certainly NOT a Champagne - not by any stretch of ones imagination! "Blanc de Blanc" is a French phrase meaning "white wine from white grapes." The term originated in France's Champagne region (where most champagnes are made from a combination of the white Chardonnay grape and the red Pinot Noir grape), to describe champagne made entirely from Chardonnay. Blanc de blancs are usually light and delicate. The term also refers to still wines. True champagne is expensive not only because it's made with premium grapes, but also because it's made by the 'Méthode Champenoise'. This traditional technique requires a second fermentation in the bottle, as well as some 100 hand operations (some of which are now mechanised using modern production techniques). Today, some champagne makers mix as many as thirty to forty or more different base wines to create the blend, or cuvée. Most major champagne houses strive for a cuvée that's consistent from year to year. As for the taste; well, when referring to champagne, the opposite of "dry" is "sweet", but in the case of Pol Acker, the opposite of "sweet" is certainly "sour". My personal description of its non-distinctive taste is that it is not too far removed from a blend of paint stripper and rocket fuel! Regards, David Thank you David for your very detailed answer, I have never tasted paint stripper or rocket fuel but if it is anything like liquid potpurri ( a curious child's act still forever cemented on the tongues memory) I will take your word for it. ....now back to the Carnival board.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyscot Posted September 7, 2007 #105 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Hello Nina, In order to answer your original question "What exactly is Pol Acker?", the answer is that it is merely a 'blanc de blanc' still wine with carbon dioxide added in order to give it effervescence. Whatever Cunard may call it, it is certainly NOT a Champagne - not by any stretch of ones imagination! "Blanc de Blanc" is a French phrase meaning "white wine from white grapes." The term originated in France's Champagne region (where most champagnes are made from a combination of the white Chardonnay grape and the red Pinot Noir grape), to describe champagne made entirely from Chardonnay. Blanc de blancs are usually light and delicate. The term also refers to still wines. True champagne is expensive not only because it's made with premium grapes, but also because it's made by the 'Méthode Champenoise'. This traditional technique requires a second fermentation in the bottle, as well as some 100 hand operations (some of which are now mechanised using modern production techniques). Today, some champagne makers mix as many as thirty to forty or more different base wines to create the blend, or cuvée. Most major champagne houses strive for a cuvée that's consistent from year to year. As for the taste; well, when referring to champagne, the opposite of "dry" is "sweet", but in the case of Pol Acker, the opposite of "sweet" is certainly "sour". My personal description of its non-distinctive taste is that it is not too far removed from a blend of paint stripper and rocket fuel! Regards, David Wow you guys sure know a lot of stuff. So do I. I know a lot about.. Wow you guys sure know a lot of stuff. I like this board. Thank you for taking me in. Tell me if you get fed up of me. Obviously, that will make it even better. :p xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted September 7, 2007 #106 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Tell me if you get fed up of me. Obviously, that will make it even better. :p Happyscot, I believe it would be impossible for anyone ever to get fed up of you. Mind you, I also believe that Scotland are going to win the rugby world cup.......... :) :) Jimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trock Posted September 7, 2007 #107 Share Posted September 7, 2007 RMS Carpathia was a Cunard Line ocean liner built by Swan Hunter & Wigham Richardson. Carpathia began its maiden voyage in 1903 and became famous for rescuing the survivors of RMS Titanic after it sank on 15 April 1912. Cruise ships operate on a mostly set roundabout course (i.e. they tend to return to their originating port) whereas ocean liners are defined by actually doing ocean-crossing voyages, which may not lead back to the same port for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted September 7, 2007 #108 Share Posted September 7, 2007 RMS Carpathia was a Cunard Line ocean liner built by Swan Hunter & Wigham Richardson. Carpathia began its maiden voyage in 1903 and became famous for rescuing the survivors of RMS Titanic after it sank on 15 April 1912. Cruise ships operate on a mostly set roundabout course (i.e. they tend to return to their originating port) whereas ocean liners are defined by actually doing ocean-crossing voyages, which may not lead back to the same port for years Wow Trock!!! you've just taken "thread drift" into a completely new dimension. This is "thread quantum leap" of the highest order. :p:):D Jimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomDePlume Posted September 7, 2007 #109 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Wow you guys sure know a lot of stuff. So do I. I know a lot about.. Wow you guys sure know a lot of stuff. I like this board. Thank you for taking me in. Tell me if you get fed up of me. Obviously, that will make it even better. :p xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ...patiently (not!) waiting for the next installment of the murrrrdurrr saga... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyscot Posted September 7, 2007 #110 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Do nat adjust your monitor. Think of a thread without limit of time or space. Think of.....THE CUNARD BOARD. Fred Drift was just an ordinary man, in an ordinary life................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyscot Posted September 7, 2007 #111 Share Posted September 7, 2007 ...patiently (not!) waiting for the next installment of the murrrrdurrr saga... Oh crap......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Nina Posted September 7, 2007 Author #112 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Oh crap......................... What's the matter? Have you run out of Pol Acker? (The real drink behind his writing madness/genius depending on how you look at it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Posted September 7, 2007 #113 Share Posted September 7, 2007 What's the matter? Have you run out of Pol Acker? (The real drink behind his writing madness/genius depending on how you look at it) Now then Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present you with a prime example of the effects of drinking (too much) Pol Acker! David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnhmrk Posted September 7, 2007 #114 Share Posted September 7, 2007 In order to answer your original question "What exactly is Pol Acker?", the answer is that it is merely a 'blanc de blanc' still wine with carbon dioxide added in order to give it effervescence. David - I thought that as well. But when I examine my 3 year old bottle it says it undergoes "A slow secondary fermentation". This I take to mean that yeast is the source of the fizz - although I'm fairly sure it's not done in the bottle. Tell me if you get fed up of me. Obviously, that will make it even better. :p HS - I'm truly fed up with you:mad: Go away:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Posted September 7, 2007 #115 Share Posted September 7, 2007 David - I thought that as well. But when I examine my 3 year old bottle it says it undergoes "A slow secondary fermentation". This I take to mean that yeast is the source of the fizz - although I'm fairly sure it's not done in the bottle. Malcolm, Well it just goes to prove that you are never too old to learn. I was simply going on how our sommelier on a previous voyage described the PA, which was "A very ordinary blanc de blanc with Co2 added to give it a fizz". He also added that it cannot be called a champagne, as it is not made by the 'Méthode Champenoise'. Now then, this is probably where I went wrong in assuming that if it was not made thus, then those little bubbles must simply be made by injecting Co2 (as manufacturers do with fizzy lemonade drinks). If it states on the bottle that a secondary fermentation gives it the fizz, then I guess that this must be correct. Still tastes lousy though! By the way Malcolm, what on earth are you doing keeping the stuff for three years? Surely you can afford a proper drain cleaner! Regards, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel-to-go Posted September 7, 2007 #116 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Jerusalem? The Johnny Clegg song? Karie, A Johnny Clegg fan. And I have met him and his band! Very friendly, hangs out backstage after shows just to meet his fans! P.S. Vic, Johnny Clegg wrote Great Heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted September 8, 2007 #117 Share Posted September 8, 2007 David - I thought that as well. But when I examine my 3 year old bottle it says it undergoes "A slow secondary fermentation". This I take to mean that yeast is the source of the fizz - although I'm fairly sure it's not done in the bottle. Many years ago we toured a winery in the Finger Lakes (NY state) and they explained the 'bulk process.' I think there's a method of fermenting under pressure in a vat and the bottling under pressure, so the bubbles are the result of fermentation, but the fermentation does not happen in individual bottles. More efficient, no turning of the bottles, etc. But not a superior product. Also, I believe the name 'champagne' can only be used for sparkling wine produced in the champagne region of France. I don't think fermented in the bottle is the defining characteristic, although I would expect that all true champagnes are fermented in the bottle. Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patwell Posted September 8, 2007 #118 Share Posted September 8, 2007 David - I thought that as well. But when I examine my 3 year old bottle You SAVED that swill for 3 YEARS????:eek: 3 YEARS??? Does it glow in the dark after that long???:p Cheers, Penny Penny’s Affair to Remember QM2 Review http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=471053 November 10,2007...the “Affair” continues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patwell Posted September 8, 2007 #119 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Wow you guys sure know a lot of stuff. So do I. I know a lot about.. Wow you guys sure know a lot of stuff. I like this board. Thank you for taking me in. Tell me if you get fed up of me. Obviously, that will make it even better. :p xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Don't you dare leave Happyscot...we haven't had this much fun around here since QM2 lost that pod in that silly little mishap that caused all those formerly nice people to act like raving maniacs....:rolleyes: Ahhh, but I digress.... And when ARE you going back to the Murrrdurrr...does it have a happy ending? Does it even have an ending? Are you from the same planet as the rest of us??Just asking mind you....;) Cheers, Penny Penny’s Affair to Remember QM2 Review http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=471053 November 10,2007...the “Affair” continues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patwell Posted September 8, 2007 #120 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Wow Trock!!! you've just taken "thread drift" into a completely new dimension. This is "thread quantum leap" of the highest order. :p:):D Jimmy I concur!! Where did this come from?? Did I miss something?? I got all caught up in the "Murrrdurrr":eek: :rolleyes: Cheers, Penny Penny’s Affair to Remember QM2 Review http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=471053 November 10,2007...the “Affair” continues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wadadli1 Posted September 8, 2007 #121 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Does it glow in the dark after that long???:p Cheers, Penny Penny’s Affair to Remember QM2 Review http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=471053 November 10,2007...the “Affair” continues.... Indeed! Didn't you see the picture I took of it? That was actually taken at midnight. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomDePlume Posted September 8, 2007 #122 Share Posted September 8, 2007 And when ARE you going back to the Murrrdurrr...does it have a happy ending? Does it even have an ending? Episode 3 is in the Thread drift thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wadadli1 Posted September 8, 2007 #123 Share Posted September 8, 2007 And when ARE you going back to the Murrrdurrr...does it have a happy ending? Does it even have an ending? Episode 3 is in the Thread drift thread... Don't you mean Thrrrrrrread Drrrrriffffft......? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomDePlume Posted September 8, 2007 #124 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Pppppppppppppfffffffffttt to you too.... (by-product of REAL champagne...) Off to bed now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wadadli1 Posted September 8, 2007 #125 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Pppppppppppppfffffffffttt to you too.... (by-product of REAL champagne...) Off to bed now rrrroooofffffffffffllllll. Good night! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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