Chair hogs - beware

[cantwaitfornextcruise]

Lucky them!:)

That phrase might have a different meaning in other parts of the world...

 

I had to clean the tea from my screen and key board before I answer.:eek:

Thanks for the laugh:D

[desperatewifeandmother]

Was it Captain Marco Fortesse? He was our captain a few months back on the Dawn Princess and even though he had his share of headaches (two people died in the dining room on separate nights, a ship-wide search was initiated at 5am for a kid who was missing and later showed up in another passenger's cabin) he was a great guy and always had time to talk to passengers.

Not to go off topic here but what happened to those two people? and how was it handled?:eek:

[bhopal21]

Captain was Todd McBain from Canada. And yes, dress code was also enforced.

 

 

That is good news and quite different from the way he ran the Golden Princess in February.

 

Maybe this finally signals a trickle down from headquarters.

 

Mike:)

[cruiseondude]

This is a tough one -- a year to two back, DH and I were getting back on the ship from a port. The set up to enter the ship was tight -- It was backed up from the dock to the Liquor Police -- I was essentially stuck in the metal detector -- the elderly "gentleman" (>60) behind me shoved me forward forcefully - causing me to stumble and fall into my DH -- a confrontation ensued -- security never said a word --

 

sadly, the "gentleman" never apologized -- I realized I could have been escorted off the ship -- but in this case, I was the "victim"

[griswalds]

Excellent news, I am pleased to see more action being taken to bring a few rowdy people into line. We have observed these bad behaviours often, although we rarely use the laundry room on a ship so that was a bit of a surprise to us.

 

I believe they should have "parking" meters on deck chairs. Everyone get's 2 free hours in tokens each day and after that it is say $50/hour. You get a discount of an hour if you buy a round if drinks for everyone. Tickets would be issued for those occupying an chair with an expired meter combined immediate eviction.

 

I am pleased to see it has taken a Canadian Captain to raise the bar......

 

Griswalds

[aldewitt]

I would expect a fight on Carnival or Norwegian. Both tend to cater to younger party crowds. I would not expect a fight in the laundry room on Princess. Usually Princess draws a more mature crowd. That said, I always bring my own starch when we cruise Princess because I always iron our clothes before dinner (yes, me, the husband does that, because I actually enjoy it). I had a lady reach over and grab my starch and I politely explained that it was my starch. She said "is that your iron too?" People get really snippy when they have to do mundane chores on a vacation. So I shared my starch after explaining, and had no more problems. But people do get their knickers in a twist sometimes. That's why I like the way Princess handles it. If you throw a punch, you're off the boat. I say "way to go!"

[ptcruzers]

Maybe the people who had a to-do in the Laundry and were put off the ship were washing their jeans!! If so, a double for the Captain. As for the chair hogs, it works quite simple- remove the items, have a seat and order a drink. I have yet to see a reserved list or name on a chaise anywhere aboard!!:D

[caber]

An elderly "genteman" threatened my husband with his fist, sporting a large sygnet ring, a couple of years ago. Coming into port we were watching a film on MUTS. He and his wife stood between us and the screen. My husband tapped the lady and politely asked her to move to the side, which she did. The "gentleman" then challenged my husband and told him not to touch his wife again.

Needless to say, the wives draged their men in opposite directions.

[san diego sue]

I would stay away from the laundry rooms on ships. On the Royal Princess this year, 23 day cruise, only one laundry room on board. It was ugly in the laundry room. I only went in there to press my clothes. Couldn't believe how nasty people were to each other.

I am still trying to figure out who stole some of my Russian items in St. Petersburg, on the tour bus when we went for lunch. People spend thousands on a cruise but steal items worth less than $100.00. Actually opened a sealed bag and rummaged through and took what they wanted.

San Diego Sue

[crusdiva]

Captain was Todd McBain from Canada. And yes, dress code was also enforced.

 

Ron

Thanks Ron - sounds like an excellent Captain.

[cusyl]

I would stay away from the laundry rooms on ships. On the Royal Princess this year, 23 day cruise, only one laundry room on board. It was ugly in the laundry room. I only went in there to press my clothes. Couldn't believe how nasty people were to each other.

I am still trying to figure out who stole some of my Russian items in St. Petersburg, on the tour bus when we went for lunch. People spend thousands on a cruise but steal items worth less than $100.00. Actually opened a sealed bag and rummaged through and took what they wanted.

San Diego Sue

Sorry to hear about your theft. When we were in Istanbul on a ship tour I was just too tired to walk to one of the four places we toured, so I stayed on the bus which went to the bus parking lot. I watched one man that boarded the bus next to ours and the driver of the bus go through all of the shopping bags that were left on that bus, taking what they wanted. I didn't let them see me watching them as I was alone on the bus and didn't want to get harmed.

That bus was not from our ship.

[G'ma]

I would expect a fight on Carnival or Norwegian. Both tend to cater to younger party crowds. I would not expect a fight in the laundry room on Princess. Usually Princess draws a more mature crowd. That said, I always bring my own starch when we cruise Princess because I always iron our clothes before dinner (yes, me, the husband does that, because I actually enjoy it). I had a lady reach over and grab my starch and I politely explained that it was my starch. She said "is that your iron too?" People get really snippy when they have to do mundane chores on a vacation. So I shared my starch after explaining, and had no more problems. But people do get their knickers in a twist sometimes. That's why I like the way Princess handles it. If you throw a punch, you're off the boat. I say "way to go!"

 

Wherever do you get your information?

 

I can't speak for NCL - haven't cruised that line in a long, long time. However, I cruise Carnival 2/3 times a year.

 

Carnival's demographic isn't the same as it was 25 years ago when it had the reputation of having "party ships" full of barfing young people. It must be a long time since you've cruised on one of their ships.

 

While it's true that the shorter 3/4 night cruises attract a slightly younger crowd, the average age of a Carnival passenger is 45... and, the manifest on any given cruise includes about 90% return passengers.

 

My first cruise with Carnival was in the 1970's when their 3 ships were, indeed, Party Central. I was in my mid-30's. Now, pushing geezerhood, I still love their cruise experience. I'm about to embark on #67 with them in December.

 

Give 'em a try. I think you'd be pleasantly surprised.

[Grego]

The OP never did explain where they dropped off the offenders.

[chrisbd1]

Wherever do you get your information?

 

I can't speak for NCL - haven't cruised that line in a long' date=' long time. However, I cruise Carnival 2/3 times a year.

 

 

 

Give 'em a try. I think you'd be pleasantly surprised.[/quote']

 

I have never seen fights or rowdy young people of any sort on NCL, either.

[usha]

Fights in the laundry rooms??? YIKES!:eek:

Maybe that's why the laundry room across from our cabin on Caribbean Princess was always locked!:o

[Pam in CA]

The OP never did explain where they dropped off the offenders.

Not in the middle of the ocean. :) They drop them off at the next port and the people have to make their own arrangements for returning home.

 

If the issue is serious enough, they drop them off at the next port where there's a law enforcement agency. A couple of years ago, on my Sea Princess Med cruise, a young man of 26 was discovered in the hot tub with a young lady who was a minor (15YO) late one night; they were both in their birthday suits. A staff member happened to be walking by and caught them. The young lady was returned to her parents; the man was held under cabin arrest (two security officers outside his cabin) until we reached Barcelona two days later when he was turned over to the FBI. Have no idea what happened to him after that. One of my tablemates was in the cabin next door to him and got the scoop and my daughter happened to be chatting with some teenagers who verified what happened.

[hubofhockey]

I would expect a fight on Carnival or Norwegian. Both tend to cater to younger party crowds. I would not expect a fight in the laundry room on Princess. Usually Princess draws a more mature crowd.

 

I have never seen anything resembling a fight or any problems like that on any of my Carnival cruises and I wouldn't expect it either. I see a lot more families than young people on Carnival cruises and maybe people with children around tend to be better behaved.

[wizard-of-roz]

I have never seen anything resembling a fight or any problems like that on any of my Carnival cruises and I wouldn't expect it either. I see a lot more families than young people on Carnival cruises and maybe people with children around tend to be better behaved.

 

I wish! Our Carnival Elation cruise, last year, was a nightmare! A gang of youths (15-19 yrs.) Ran rough-shod over this ship. Finally, a security officer and few other good citizens took charge; the parents were found, all laying by the pool, with absolutely no knowledge of where and what their children were doing.

The children were banned to their cabins, with their parents and the authorities were contacted in San Diego. (We had one more day of cruising to do) and, never saw any of these families, anywhere on the ship again. They had to dine and stay in their cabins the remaining day, with a security officer at their door!!!!!

Disembarkation was held-up until the families involved were taken off first, with the San Diego Police as their escorts.....charges were filed (we were witnesses to the mayhem and had to fill-out lengthy forms) and, from what I understand the parents had to pay heavy fines, in court, months later!

The Captain of the Elation did step-up to the plate, eventually but would have saved a lot of grief had he done it more early on, in the cruise!

[Thumper69]

Oh at last standards and decorum are beginning to creep back. Well done that man, I hope his employers appreciate him. I don’t want to sound snooty, but standards have dropped over the last 3/4 or years quite dramatically and it’s not just the young some older cruisers need to look in the mirror.

Please name that man and let us all praise him :)

 

I am 45 which makes me in the middle age group is expect. I agree when people are travelling together on a ship there must be respect for the other passengers and I have seen sloppyness from young to old. We enjoy dressing for dinner every night regardless casual or formal. I make sure casual does NOT mean anything like jeans and t-shirts. Formal night dark suit a tie is a minimum ( I actually prefer black tie ). I love to cruise for the whole experience and to meet new friends. It was once quite special thing to cruise and what to wear. What happened! Too much booze and I love my martinis. Assualting a crew member (Oh my God) over moved items on a saved deck chair sounds like drunken behaviour and unfortunately the barstaff can't always tell when someone will turn.

 

We are a gay couple of 16years who have been harassed verbally many times by small minded people on every cruise taken. We don't let it ruin our cruise, happily the majority of people we meet are wonderful and accepting. In fact other passengers have been embarassed have responded on our behalf without question or any hesitation, which makes up for the as..oles. Which century do we live in? If you can't get along and want to look for a fight stay at home!

 

Anthony

[fathercop]

This is good news to hear. Based on what I do professionally, sometimes the stories are so conflicting that the truth will not be known. In those cases, I make BOTH people go their separate ways, or they both go to jail and I will let a judge decide. Some people feel that they are above the law and others feel that the law should be slanted toward their position.

 

If it is hard justice at sea, then so be it. When some one is being treated unfairly, they should walk away and seek help. Staying usually only makes things worse. Just walk away!!! But people can't do that. They want satisfaction now. Well, some times things don't come NOW.

 

Good for that captain!

[hubofhockey]

I wish! Our Carnival Elation cruise, last year, was a nightmare! A gang of youths (15-19 yrs.) Ran rough-shod over this ship. Finally, a security officer and few other good citizens took charge; the parents were found, all laying by the pool, with absolutely no knowledge of where and what their children were doing.

 

The children were banned to their cabins, with their parents and the authorities were contacted in San Diego. (We had one more day of cruising to do) and, never saw any of these families, anywhere on the ship again. They had to dine and stay in their cabins the remaining day, with a security officer at their door!!!!!

 

Disembarkation was held-up until the families involved were taken off first, with the San Diego Police as their escorts.....charges were filed (we were witnesses to the mayhem and had to fill-out lengthy forms) and, from what I understand the parents had to pay heavy fines, in court, months later!

 

The Captain of the Elation did step-up to the plate, eventually but would have saved a lot of grief had he done it more early on, in the cruise!

 

The Elation is an older ship doing 3-5 day cruises. You can do a Cabo cruise from less than $300. Those are like the 3-4 day Bahamas cruises. You can't compare that to the Princess cruise in question or 6-8 day Carnival cruises. The longer Carnival cruises aren't like that at all. This Princess cruise in question was a very long Australian one. I haven't seen problems like that on the longer Carnival cruises. I would cruise Carnival in a second - just not a 3-4 day cruise.

[wizard-of-roz]

The Elation is an older ship doing 3-5 day cruises. You can do a Cabo cruise from less than $300. Those are like the 3-4 day Bahamas cruises. You can't compare that to the Princess cruise in question or 6-8 day Carnival cruises. The longer Carnival cruises aren't like that at all. This Princess cruise in question was a very long Australian one. I haven't seen problems like that on the longer Carnival cruises. I would cruise Carnival in a second - just not a 3-4 day cruise.

It was a 5 day cruise (I thought being that it was a bit longer, it would make a difference in the crowd!) Apparantly, not! :(

I also know that these were very odd circumstances and would probably never happen again!

That said.....I'll stick to Princess and stop trying to take those "last minute, sounds too good to be true deals!"

[tonit964]

When we were on our 3 day Carnival Paradise cruise there was a 20 something guy giving a cruise staff member outside the disco a hard time and was getting very loud and kept moving toward him in a threatening manner, well my DH who has his black belt in Kung Fu and is not a big guy at all (this other guy was pretty big) started walking toward them because he wasn't going to give the loud mouthed punk a chance to even come close to hitting this staff member. Well luckily my DH didn't have to get involved and the guys buddies took him out of the situation.

 

I don't think it matters what cruise line you are on, there is one in every crowd.

Very scary.

[wizard-of-roz]

I have NEVER seen a roudy crowd or a roudy child on any Princess cruise we've taken, nor have I seen this on any HAL or Celebrity cruise.

The above lines have very good skills when it comes to "crowd management!"

[seb530]

We had people put off the ship for fighting in the laundry room on our Sydney to LA cruise last April. I don't think this is as uncommon as you think.

 

whats it with the laundy room? they got a boxing room set up there? Some people just dont know how to behave and respect others...

 

Washing Powder fisticuffs... what next :o