Botox injections onboard?

[suzyed]

I noticed that they have botox information sessions on the Star. Do they actually do botox injections onboard? If so, does any one know how much they cost? Not that I need it or anything..:rolleyes:

[terrymtex01]

I can not wait to find out this info. Doug refuses to let me have a face lift. Gives me that old "you should grow old gracefully" speech.. LOL. Maybe if they do give Botox on the cruise I could sneak and have it done one day when he is taking a nap.

[Bobbye]

Last month on the Pearl they were advertising this on the ship. It said they had a doctor on board but none of the advertisements had any pricing. I was very tempted!

[Surfgirl]

Botox isn't as benign as you might think. You should consider it a medical procedure with possible serious side effects. Personally, I don't think having this kind of thing done on a cruise ship is a very wise idea.

 

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/health-care/health-canadanew-safety-information-regarding-botox-botox-cosmetic-products-1619988834/

[suzyed]

I can not wait to find out this info. Doug refuses to let me have a face lift. Gives me that old "you should grow old gracefully" speech.. LOL. Maybe if they do give Botox on the cruise I could sneak and have it done one day when he is taking a nap.

I wish we were going on the same cruise...we could sneak off and get our botox together! I would even hold your hand! ;)

[cruiser12]

I had this done on my last cruise. (Aug. 2008 Dawn )Botox on the forhead and the Resytlene(spelling is off a bit) on sides of nose and mouth area and had the lips plumped up. Took ten years off ! ! !

 

 

LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT> A board certified plasctic surgen is working out of the Spa.

If it is available on Gem in April I will have it done again.

[BarBug]

I briefly spoke to the spa doctor at a gathering on our last cruise and asked for a rough ballpark figure and it was a couple of hundred dollars....seemed like a fair price, but I'm a wimp....with a wrinkled forehead.....:eek:

 

There was a sign on a medical building near me recently....Botox $8....wonder what you can get for eight dollars?

 

cruiser12: any before/after pictures?

[suzyed]

Botox isn't as benign as you might think. You should consider it a medical procedure with possible serious side effects. Personally, I don't think having this kind of thing done on a cruise ship is a very wise idea.

 

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/health-care/health-canadanew-safety-information-regarding-botox-botox-cosmetic-products-1619988834/

Yeah... of course would not do it if some clerk on the ship was doing it. I have heard they have a board certified plastic surgeon onboard...and if that's the case I am ok with doing it.

 

BTW, I am an RN and I work in the operating room...so yup, I am well aware that even botox should not be taken lightly and to take the proper precautions. ;)

[suzyed]

I briefly spoke to the spa doctor at a gathering on our last cruise and asked for a rough ballpark figure and it was a couple of hundred dollars....seemed like a fair price, but I'm a wimp....with a wrinkled forehead.....:eek:

 

There was a sign on a medical building near me recently....Botox $8....wonder what you can get for eight dollars?

 

cruiser12: any before/after pictures?

I am betting that it is $8 per injection. It takes multiple injections for each treatment.

The thing with the actual vial of botox is... once the vial is opened, it has to be used then...in other words, you can't save it for another day. So I would think they would want to do as many as possible to make sure the whole thing is used.

[cruiser12]

$ 700.00 for both

[Surfgirl]

Yeah... of course would not do it if some clerk on the ship was doing it. I have heard they have a board certified plastic surgeon onboard...and if that's the case I am ok with doing it.

 

BTW, I am an RN and I work in the operating room...so yup, I am well aware that even botox should not be taken lightly and to take the proper precautions. ;)

 

I think you're missing what I'm trying to say. God forbid you have one of the known complications, you'll be on board the ship, away from the USA and it's hospitals. Would you want to end up in a hospital in a third world country suffering from a deadly reaction? Or have to be airlifted from the ship?

 

There have been deaths associated with botox as well as serious adverse effects. including disfigurements. You have "heard" the doctor on board is a plastic surgeon, but do you "know?" Do you know what kind of technique he or she has? His/her results? His/her safety record?

 

I don't mean to spoil the party here, but I'm just trying to warn people that they need to really look into this seriously before taking the risk... especially when they're so far from home.

[Salt air hair]

I wouldn't trust any type of "procedure" to be done on a ship. #1 reason is who will treat you at home if something goes wrong with the ship's procedure. Doctors are skidish to touch someone else's "mess up" with all the malpractice suits happening. An extensive article in a travel magazine warning travelers about this type of thing. It was mainly focused on foreign contries and having major work done, cosmetic and dental while on vacation, but it did mention ships and what is and will be offered on the high seas.

[garycarla]

Add this to my list of things I just do not get.

 

* Having medical procedure done while in the middle of the ocean

* Having teeth whitening done while at sea - dangers, limited eating afterwards?

* Buying valuable art work from a shop you can not return to

* Buying jewelry when there are plenty of shops at home

* Buying all kinds of junk that just goes in the closet when you get home

* Buying all those $10-$20 photos that nobody every looks at again

 

Just me, but I just don't get some of this stuff.

[terrymtex01]

I wish we were going on the same cruise...we could sneak off and get our botox together! I would even hold your hand! ;)

 

Makes it even more tempting to me....

 

Add this to my list of things I just do not get.

 

* Having medical procedure done while in the middle of the ocean

* Having teeth whitening done while at sea - dangers, limited eating afterwards?

* Buying valuable art work from a shop you can not return to

* Buying jewelry when there are plenty of shops at home

* Buying all kinds of junk that just goes in the closet when you get home

* Buying all those $10-$20 photos that nobody every looks at again

 

Just me, but I just don't get some of this stuff.

 

Not for sure anyone could answer as to why it's done, other than maybe it is part of their fun of their vacation?

[suzyed]

I think you're missing what I'm trying to say. God forbid you have one of the known complications, you'll be on board the ship, away from the USA and it's hospitals. Would you want to end up in a hospital in a third world country suffering from a deadly reaction? Or have to be airlifted from the ship?

 

There have been deaths associated with botox as well as serious adverse effects. including disfigurements. You have "heard" the doctor on board is a plastic surgeon, but do you "know?" Do you know what kind of technique he or she has? His/her results? His/her safety record?

 

I don't mean to spoil the party here, but I'm just trying to warn people that they need to really look into this seriously before taking the risk... especially when they're so far from home.

I get what your saying, and I do really appreciate your concern.

I was just asking about it, I didn't say I was definately doing it!

 

Of course I would not do it unless I knew what his/her training and qualifications are before I made the decision. I have been a nurse for 30 years, I would not just jump in without investigation...I am sure I know better than that!

 

Further, I would also investigate what the price is in land based offices, so that I would know if they were hosing us or not. (See: the post about the NCL watch fiasco)

 

As far as being in a third world country......now I know Alaska is not in the continental US (and we can see Russia from there), but last time I checked, it IS still part of the United States. ;)

[suzyed]

Makes it even more tempting to me....

 

 

 

Not for sure anyone could answer as to why it's done, other than maybe it is part of their fun of their vacation?

I agree Terry! People do all kinds of stuff on vacation, that they don't do at home!

For example:

I don't drink every day, or eat dinner out every night, or sing Kereoke, or go to Art auctions(mostly for the free "champagne" and to watch others spend their money), or do the Quest or Murder Mysteries, or go rafting, or get my hair braided, or join the Balcony club, oops, or whale watching, etc. etc. THAT'S WHAT VACATIONS ARE FOR!!!

 

If I was going to do the same ole thing everyday, I might as well save my money and stay home and watch TV.

 

What I don't get, is folks who sit in the cabin and watch TV or play games, or sleep until noon.....waste of precious vacation time, as far as I am concerned! ;)

[CC Help Michell]

Botox isn't as benign as you might think. You should consider it a medical procedure with possible serious side effects. Personally, I don't think having this kind of thing done on a cruise ship is a very wise idea.

 

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/health-care/health-canadanew-safety-information-regarding-botox-botox-cosmetic-products-1619988834/

 

 

You and I have disagreed on a lot of things, Surfgirl (and no doubt will again! :D), but on this one I'm right there with you. I personally wouldn't have any kind of medical or quasi-medical procedure done on a cruise ship (like teeth whitening, Botox, etc.). Even "temporary" things like Botox can affect nerves and cause long term side effects -- a "souvenir" I wouldn't want. I've read several reports here about folks who had tooth whitening done and afterwards had teeth which were so sensitive they could barely get through the rest of the cruise. :( Even with the best US-based dentists, dermatologists, etc. one can have side effects from these procedures -- and those folks all are legally bound to obtain informed consent, have liability insurance if something goes wrong, and so on. For me personally, I just wouldn't have enough confidence in the folks onboard an internationally-flagged vessel to trust them for this kind of thing.

 

It's not that I'm not adventurous; I completely agree that vacations are a fabulous time to try new things! I've even returned home from a (land) vacation with my long-desired tattoo and I love it every single time I look at it -- it's exactly what I wanted. But I was able to research it in advance, assure myself of the qualifications of the artist, exchange several emails with him about the kind of work I wanted (it's a custom design) -- all stuff not possible on a cruise ship.

 

Please note I phrased this post carefully, as I'd never presume to offer unsolicited advice about what decision to make on something so personal. Shore excursions, or which itinerary to choose? Sure -- plastic surgery/medical procedure? Not so much! :)

Edited February 9, 2009 by MichellP

[Surfgirl]

I get what your saying, and I do really appreciate your concern.

I was just asking about it, I didn't say I was definately doing it!

 

Of course I would not do it unless I knew what his/her training and qualifications are before I made the decision. I have been a nurse for 30 years, I would not just jump in without investigation...I am sure I know better than that!

 

Further, I would also investigate what the price is in land based offices, so that I would know if they were hosing us or not. (See: the post about the NCL watch fiasco)

 

As far as being in a third world country......now I know Alaska is not in the continental US (and we can see Russia from there), but last time I checked, it IS still part of the United States. ;)

 

No need to get sarcastic, I've been very polite to you. I didn't know you were going to Alaska... you didn't mention that, and I didn't look at your ticker.

 

As a nurse, however, I would think you wouldn't even entertain the idea of having this done on a cruise ship. Having Botox injections isn't as benign as having your eyebrows waxed. Botox is potentially fatal, and in the wrong hands, can cause disfigurement.

 

What I find also disturbing is that they claim in their news release, "Guests can now return home from their cruise vacation looking and feeling rejuvenated. All of the facial aesthetic treatments are under the supervision of Steiner's Medical Director, Dr. Brad Herman, a Miami-based, board-certified plastic surgeon and his team of medically-licensed doctors who have been trained specifically in the administration of these treatments."

 

Does this mean Botox is given BY a doctor, or "under the supervision" of Dr. Herman and his team of doctors? And.. if they ARE given BY a doctor, it doesn't sound like they're board certified in plastic surgery. They could be podiatrists for all we know.

[suzyed]

No need to get sarcastic, I've been very polite to you. I didn't know you were going to Alaska... you didn't mention that, and I didn't look at your ticker.

 

As a nurse, however, I would think you wouldn't even entertain the idea of having this done on a cruise ship. Having Botox injections isn't as benign as having your eyebrows waxed. Botox is potentially fatal, and in the wrong hands, can cause disfigurement.

 

What I find also disturbing is that they claim in their news release, "Guests can now return home from their cruise vacation looking and feeling rejuvenated. All of the facial aesthetic treatments are under the supervision of Steiner's Medical Director, Dr. Brad Herman, a Miami-based, board-certified plastic surgeon and his team of medically-licensed doctors who have been trained specifically in the administration of these treatments."

 

Does this mean Botox is given BY a doctor, or "under the supervision" of Dr. Herman and his team of doctors? And.. if they ARE given BY a doctor, it doesn't sound like they're board certified in plastic surgery. They could be podiatrists for all we know.

I wasn't being sarcastic...notice the "wink" at the end of the sentence.

 

As a nurse, I was merely asking a question, not signing up for a medical procedure. I would never, repeat never, have entertained the idea of doing any kind of "procedure" in a third world country or on a cruise ship traveling to one.

I know very well that choosing a doctor for any kind of procedure, home or away, is something that should not be taken lightly. You would probably be amazed at the doctors folks choose to do major surgery--they obviously did not do their homework. (even here in the good old USA)

 

I am going to Alaska, as I have pointed out, and that is why I was even asking the question. I didn't need to be lectured on medical safety.

As I also said, I appreciate your concern, but I just want to point out that the tone of your post was somewhat condescending.

 

Let's just leave it at: you thought you were being helpful and you were showing concern for others and we appreciate your efforts. :)

[Surfgirl]

I wasn't being sarcastic...notice the "wink" at the end of the sentence.

 

As a nurse, I was merely asking a question, not signing up for a medical procedure. I would never, repeat never, have entertained the idea of doing any kind of "procedure" in a third world country or on a cruise ship traveling to one.

I know very well that choosing a doctor for any kind of procedure, home or away, is something that should not be taken lightly. You would probably be amazed at the doctors folks choose to do major surgery--they obviously did not do their homework. (even here in the good old USA)

 

I am going to Alaska, as I have pointed out, and that is why I was even asking the question. I didn't need to be lectured on medical safety.

As I also said, I appreciate your concern, but I just want to point out that the tone of your post was somewhat condescending.

 

Let's just leave it at: you thought you were being helpful and you were showing concern for others and we appreciate your efforts. :)

 

Actually, it was your post that was condescending regarding Alaska being a part of the USA... and I don't appreciate your "dismissive tone."

 

Back on topic, I would love to know who actually does this procedure on board.. do the doctors do it, or someone "under the supervision" of a doctor. And.. what KIND of doctors are they?

 

Apparently, NCL plans to offer Botox on their entire fleet. Oh, just wait until the first Botox law suit...

[parothead]

they offered it on the Dawn 2 weeks ago, I didn't check the price. I have had botox 3 times with no side effects and restaline twice with some minimal bruiseing.

[OfcSupport]

I had a Botox treatment once between the eyebrows. I went to a plastic surgeon and was pleased with the results.

 

Even though I didn't experience any problems that I am aware of I regret doing it. There was a recent study dated April 2, 2008 published in the Journal of Neuoroscience raising concern that Botox may travel from it's injection site to the brain.

[greeba]

I had this done on my last cruise. (Aug. 2008 Dawn )Botox on the forhead and the Resytlene(spelling is off a bit) on sides of nose and mouth area and had the lips plumped up. Took ten years off ! ! !

 

 

LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT> A board certified plasctic surgen is working out of the Spa.

If it is available on Gem in April I will have it done again.

 

Do you have pictures? Very interesting!

[Blamar]

Add this to my list of things I just do not get.

 

* Having medical procedure done while in the middle of the ocean

* Having teeth whitening done while at sea - dangers, limited eating afterwards?

* Buying valuable art work from a shop you can not return to

* Buying jewelry when there are plenty of shops at home

* Buying all kinds of junk that just goes in the closet when you get home

* Buying all those $10-$20 photos that nobody every looks at again

 

Just me, but I just don't get some of this stuff.

 

I would add

* Getting a Tattoo - can't put sunlight on it or get it wet until it heals

Edited February 11, 2009 by Blamar
spelling error

[pfisted]

Well said! Have fun on your cruise and do what YOU feel is safe and what YOU want to do :) DD