Ports are being canceled now

[sarcasticgirl]

It is quite different in that it appears to be more deadly to young, healthy people than a "regular" flu. Existing flu shots are not effective against it. Other than that, it is just as contagious as other strains.

 

it seems to only be deadly to people in mexico. only 1 person outside of mexico has even been hospitalized.

 

flu shots aren't fool proof. in my experience the one and only year i got a flu shot was the one and only year i actually got the flu.

[MTcruiser]

It will be interesting to see where they'll have all the ships headed for Mexico going. I hope this all blows over by June.

[Vanessa L]

it seems to only be deadly to people in mexico. only 1 person outside of mexico has even been hospitalized.

 

flu shots aren't fool proof. in my experience the one and only year i got a flu shot was the one and only year i actually got the flu.

 

You too?! This is why I don't take the flu shot anymore. I've never had the flu except the one year I took the shot, LOL. Never again.

[alexisemma31]

I've just booked the Destiny for August, which should have a stop in Cozumel. I'd be really disappointed if it didn't stop there, but like others have said there is no contest when it comes to your health.

[Thirsty Cruiser]

it seems to only be deadly to people in mexico. only 1 person outside of mexico has even been hospitalized.

 

flu shots aren't fool proof. in my experience the one and only year i got a flu shot was the one and only year i actually got the flu.

Yes, that is one of the puzzling aspects of it as well. CDC has a pretty decent page about it if you want to read up.

 

I don't know if any vaccine is fool proof, but the flu shot can and does save lives every year. Unfortunately, there is not a shot available for swine flu (or SARS for that matter), so tamiflu is it for now.

[libbyonthelabel]

We are doing a B2B2B on the Holiday at the end of August and overall I am pretty easygoing about changes. However, since all the ports are Mexico and that cruise(s) would end up being 14 days at sea if we couldn't go anywhere else, I would be a little disappointed......LOL!! Not exactly what I had planned. I would hope it is all sorted out by then.

[poobears]

According to what is being posted on some of the other threads there are 2 suspected swine flu deaths in Cali. Waiting on confirmation. Of course it didn't say what country they were from. Wether it was a US citizen or someone here from MX, like the tourist reported to have it FL. We may be facing US deaths now, time will tell.

[roseaxel]

We are sailing on the Holiday in about 2 weeks. I wish they would cancel our stop in Cozumel. I'd much rather go to Key West. Would that ever be an option for them, cruising out of Mobile?:confused:

[sarcasticgirl]

We are sailing on the Holiday in about 2 weeks. I wish they would cancel our stop in Cozumel. I'd much rather go to Key West. Would that ever be an option for them, cruising out of Mobile?:confused:

 

I'm on the Holiday the week before you are... hopefully we'll get details this afternoon so we can start planning for other ports if need be.

[LHP]

If Carnival tells us the Mexican ports on our May 16th Glory cruise are cancelled....I am fine with that. Sea days will do just great!!!

[tbjl24]

Just another thought... doing the 3 day to the only stop, Ensenada, starting Thursday. Isn't it the deal that no foreign port, no casino? Might have to dock, but maybe they won't let anyone off or on. Should be interesting

 

 

No way..... the casino will still be open

[sarcasticgirl]

If Carnival tells us the Mexican ports on our May 16th Glory cruise are cancelled....I am fine with that. Sea days will do just great!!!

 

i'd prefer to have at least one port... but if not, i'll deal.

[Keksie]

I think you would be closer to confirmed cases in Key West then in Cozumel.

 

We are sailing on the Holiday in about 2 weeks. I wish they would cancel our stop in Cozumel. I'd much rather go to Key West. Would that ever be an option for them, cruising out of Mobile?:confused:

[Vanessa L]

If Carnival tells us the Mexican ports on our May 16th Glory cruise are cancelled....I am fine with that. Sea days will do just great!!!

 

 

LHP, you are a woman of my own heart!

[WooWooGirl]

it seems to only be deadly to people in mexico. only 1 person outside of mexico has even been hospitalized.

 

flu shots aren't fool proof. in my experience the one and only year i got a flu shot was the one and only year i actually got the flu.

 

You too?! This is why I don't take the flu shot anymore. I've never had the flu except the one year I took the shot, LOL. Never again.

 

 

Both of you most likely got a DIFFERENT strain of the flu than the one you got the flu shot for...the shot does not cover EVERY strain, that is impossible. And were you tested that time to make sure you had the flu? Flu is more like a cold, not always puking and such symptoms so you unless you had the blood type to test for influenza A or B you may not have had it... just saying :cool:

[wrp96]

We are sailing on the Holiday in about 2 weeks. I wish they would cancel our stop in Cozumel. I'd much rather go to Key West. Would that ever be an option for them, cruising out of Mobile?:confused:

 

No, they must make a foreign port stop. If they only stop in Key West, the cruiseline gets levied an extremely large fine for violating the PVSA.

[bonniemari]

If Carnival tells us the Mexican ports on our May 16th Glory cruise are cancelled....I am fine with that. Sea days will do just great!!!

 

Linda you are like me-we just roll with the flow.

 

I guess I should be happy I am going the other way this Saturday on the Fascination. But if my girlfriends and I did like we normally do on our annual girls cruise and cruise out of NOLA or Mobile, I would be happy with sea days. Not sure my wallet would be cause of those darn casinos and DOD's.

[WooWooGirl]

someone posted an article earlier that showed if you port out of TX, NO or MObile on a 5 day or less cruise if the MX ports are closed it will be a cruise to no where. There are no other ports they will go to and you can't stop at say Key west because you have to have an international port to stop at, not just a US port.

 

 

I am curious as to what our cruise next month (well June) will do...it is a 4 nighter from Ft. Lauderdale to Key West and Cozumel...any ideas?

[timekeeper95]

I hope they put out the info soon. IF I GET A DIFF PORT, I want time to read up on my excursions, make a plan B for Dh and I. We are flying out tomorrow night to make our cruise, I would like the info.... Please, pretty please....

[Vanessa L]

Both of you most likely got a DIFFERENT strain of the flu than the one you got the flu shot for...the shot does not cover EVERY strain, that is impossible. And were you tested that time to make sure you had the flu? Flu is more like a cold, not always puking and such symptoms so you unless you had the blood type to test for influenza A or B you may not have had it... just saying :cool:

 

I'm a nurse, WooWoo. I'm sure I had the flu. Yes I was tested, because I couldn't believe the coincidence. It says right on the bottle that it can cause "flu like symptoms". Yep, I had them alright, fever, sore throat, puking, diarrhea, all there. Now, was it "caused" by the vaccine or just coincidental? Only God knows that. But, I do know I have not had the flu before or since. Also probably as coincidental. :D

[sarcasticgirl]

Both of you most likely got a DIFFERENT strain of the flu than the one you got the flu shot for...the shot does not cover EVERY strain, that is impossible. And were you tested that time to make sure you had the flu? Flu is more like a cold, not always puking and such symptoms so you unless you had the blood type to test for influenza A or B you may not have had it... just saying :cool:

 

that was my exact point about the flu shot, even a regular flu shot doesn't cover every strain of the flu so the fact that it doesn't cover the swine flu really isn't surprising nor do i personally find it alarming.

 

and yes it was confirmed by my dr. that it was the flu.

[Thirsty Cruiser]

it seems to only be deadly to people in mexico. only 1 person outside of mexico has even been hospitalized.

 

flu shots aren't fool proof. in my experience the one and only year i got a flu shot was the one and only year i actually got the flu.

 

Both of you most likely got a DIFFERENT strain of the flu than the one you got the flu shot for...the shot does not cover EVERY strain, that is impossible. And were you tested that time to make sure you had the flu? Flu is more like a cold, not always puking and such symptoms so you unless you had the blood type to test for influenza A or B you may not have had it... just saying :cool:

Great point. Each year, "they" select the strain that is most likely to be prevalent for that flu season, so it is possible that it was the other strain.

Another possibility is that it was not the flu at all. The term "flu" is way overused (you hear it in sports all the time). A true influenza infection can be very dangerous, and usually has symptoms so severe you cannot even get out of bed. 102 degree fever, malaise, and a cough is NOT necessarily indicative of the flu. Just sayin:cool: :)

[G'ma]

While I am not one to ever believe that the sky is falling I can understand that Carnival must err on the side of caution in this situation.

 

I believe they did this because too many people were calling to cancel cruises that had Mexican ports.

 

It's marketing.

 

It's better to skip a port or two than to cruise with half empty ships.

[G'ma]

It's amazing to me all the fuss that's being caused about this flu bug. It's a slow week for the media and so they are sensationalizing this to the Nth degree. On top of that - everyone jumps on the fear bandwagon and makes it even worse.

 

Fact - @ 36,000 people died in the United States last year from the flu. Guess what, the media doesn't report that very much. It's just not that glamorous. How many people have died (in the U.S.) from this particular strain so far.

 

Fact - politicians want us to be afraid of something. That way, they can rescue us and we will be indebted to them.

 

Fact - the virus doesn't survive very long in the open air. Your best chance of contracting it is if someone who has it, coughs on you or touches you soon after having mucus from their bodies on their hands. Even then, you must transfer the virus to your own mucus membranes within a relatively short period of time or the virus will die.

 

The reality is that most people contract viral and bacterial infections because they don't wash their hands often enough. That even includes me.

 

Solution - stop believing "the sky is falling" media and politicians and learn how to wash your hands.

 

I certainly agree with everything you say.

 

So many of us simply believe everything that anyone says on any news channel about anything. Especially when the issue is shown 24/7...

 

It's nuts....

 

The sky isn't falling, it isn't a pandemic, it isn't an epidemic; it's an outbreak. They had one in the 70's also....it originated at Fort Dix NJ.....same sort of nonsense then as now.

 

Chicken Little has lots of relatives.

[nolaAlive]

Great point. Each year, "they" select the strain that is most likely to be prevalent for that flu season, so it is possible that it was the other strain.

Another possibility is that it was not the flu at all. The term "flu" is way overused (you hear it in sports all the time). A true influenza infection can be very dangerous, and usually has symptoms so severe you cannot even get out of bed. 102 degree fever, malaise, and a cough is NOT necessarily indicative of the flu. Just sayin:cool: :)

 

Actually "they" typically select 3 different strains attempting to cover a broad spectrum.

 

e.g.

 

an A/New Caledonia/20/99 (H1N1)-like virus;

an A/Wisconsin/67/2005 (H3N2)-like virus (A/Wisconsin/67/2005 and A/Hiroshima/52/2005strains);

a B/Malaysia/2506/2004-like virus (B/Malaysia/2506/2004 and B/Ohio/1/2005 strains)