Coffee Maker In Staterooms??

Are there coffee makers in the staterooms on the DCL Fantasy? If not, I'm going to miss my flavored coffee!!

Are there coffee makers in the staterooms on the DCL Fantasy? If not, I'm going to miss my flavored coffee!!

No. You can get coffee from room service, from the drink stations, and (for a cost) from Cove Cafe and Vista Cafe. Those last two have specialty coffees.

Coffee makers are deemed a fire hazard and as such are prohibited. Have you tried flavored creamers in regular coffee?

Yes, I've tried the flavored creamers. I usually drink my coffee black. I've found the flavored creamers too sweet.

Yes, I've tried the flavored creamers. I usually drink my coffee black. I've found the flavored creamers too sweet.

Sorry...guess you are going to miss your flavored coffee. Regular and decaf is available 24/7 from room service or at the beverage station, and in the restaurants during meal hours. Specialty coffees (think Starbucks) are available in the Cove Cafe and Vista Cafe--generous hours, but not 24/7. If you indulge in these, get a "coffee card." Fill the card with stamps and the next one is free.

Sadly, you will be in a coffee desert. You can pay for good coffee at the coffee shop. I think they had syrup flavors, though don't hold me to it. I'm not a flavor gal myself. The free ship coffee is not that good, IMHO.

One of the few downsides to the cruise. ;(

You can buy coffee flavour syrups - available many places including amazon. You can even buy mini shot size bottles that will travel easily. Get one or two and put into your suitcase to enjoy your black, yet flavoured, coffee.

You could buy a french press and order very hot water from room service?

A battery operated grinder is allowed if your beans need to be ground fresh just before?

ex techie

You could also try these in hot water:

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Coffee makers are deemed a fire hazard and as such are prohibited. Have you tried flavored creamers in regular coffee?

Why are they a fire hazard on DCL but not NCL?:confused: Isn’t a fire hazard a fire hazard?

Everything electrical on a ship has the potential to be a fire hazard. Either from improper use, malfunction, or wear and tear.

Each line accesses the risk of the item, the risk it could pose and then makes a decision based upon that.

Each lines safety and security team shoreside make the decision. And some lines are more proactive and respond more quickly than others. DCL have banned power strips for many years, but yet some lines still allow them.

I have a feeling that the risk of a child coming into contact with the hot coffee pot, or accidentally pulling the coffee maker onto them could be a high risk, and play a part in them not being provided.

ex techie

Everything electrical on a ship has the potential to be a fire hazard. Either from improper use, malfunction, or wear and tear.

Each line accesses the risk of the item, the risk it could pose and then makes a decision based upon that.

Each lines safety and security team shoreside make the decision. And some lines are more proactive and respond more quickly than others. DCL have banned power strips for many years, but yet some lines still allow them.

 

I have a feeling that the risk of a child coming into contact with the hot coffee pot, or accidentally pulling the coffee maker onto them could be a high risk, and play a part in them not being provided.

 

ex techie

Hmmm a child coming into contact with hot coffee pot?? Really? if thats the case then no hot coffee, or tea, or soup should ever be served on any ship or anywhere in public then. :confused: I guess NCL doesnt care about the kids on their ships then :p

People use safety and fire hazard too freely. If a heat source was such a concern then curling irons and hair straighteners would have been banned a long time ago. They are much more of a concern since they are not inspected and there are too many brands to be able to know they are safe. Not to mention the condition of everyone brought on board.

Hmmm a child coming into contact with hot coffee pot?? Really? if thats the case then no hot coffee, or tea, or soup should ever be served on any ship or anywhere in public then. :confused: I guess NCL doesnt care about the kids on their ships then :p

There is a difference when you are handed a hot drink, as it then become your responsibility as to what you do with it, where you leave it.

I have never been served soup on a ship that is hot enough to cause a burn. You may have.

By providing an appliance that heats up to the point where it can burn or scald, you assume a level of responsibility.

I won't waste the time to reply to your comment about NCL not caring about kids on their ships.

ex techie

Techie asked for my input. As far as hair appliances are concerned, if the lines could get away with banning them, they would. They know the uproar it would cause, so they balance the risk to the reward and allow these items.

Bringing appliances, other than hair care, with a heating element is prohibited because there is no control over the appliances. The risk far outweighs the reward, since most cruisers won't stop cruising because they can't bring a coffee maker, the way they would if they couldn't bring their hair dryer. The cruise lines that provide coffee makers and tea kettles do so knowing that it will cost them in employee time to inspect these appliances. Every one of these is taken out of service every 6 months and tested and inspected in the electrician's shop. Those lines that don't provide coffee makers don't want to spend the limited work hours of the electricians dealing with inspecting and testing these appliances.

The major problem with any heating appliance is the "auto off" or "overheat" switch, that shuts it off when there is no water in the tank, for example. Mr. Coffee almost went out of business in the '90's because of lawsuits over house fires caused by their switches failing and the coffee makers melting and burning. I have seen one of the NCL coffee makers go up in flames in the electrician's shop while testing, so I know it is still a concern.

Thanks Chief for your input which I requested.

So would you say it is a balance of risk and reward? Risk of fire vs. reward of offering additional amenities?

ex techie

Techie asked for my input. As far as hair appliances are concerned, if the lines could get away with banning them, they would. They know the uproar it would cause, so they balance the risk to the reward and allow these items.

 

Bringing appliances, other than hair care, with a heating element is prohibited because there is no control over the appliances. The risk far outweighs the reward, since most cruisers won't stop cruising because they can't bring a coffee maker, the way they would if they couldn't bring their hair dryer. The cruise lines that provide coffee makers and tea kettles do so knowing that it will cost them in employee time to inspect these appliances. Every one of these is taken out of service every 6 months and tested and inspected in the electrician's shop. Those lines that don't provide coffee makers don't want to spend the limited work hours of the electricians dealing with inspecting and testing these appliances.

 

The major problem with any heating appliance is the "auto off" or "overheat" switch, that shuts it off when there is no water in the tank, for example. Mr. Coffee almost went out of business in the '90's because of lawsuits over house fires caused by their switches failing and the coffee makers melting and burning. I have seen one of the NCL coffee makers go up in flames in the electrician's shop while testing, so I know it is still a concern.

I have appreciated and learned so much from your post over the years, you re truly a godsend to misinformation on all the different boards here. But the question from the OP was not about bring on a coffee maker, it was about if DCL provided them in the rooms.

It was sad they were not provided due to fire hazard. I stated that they NCL provided them and did not deem them a fire hazard since they provided them and service them. It was never a question about an individual passenger bringing one on board.

It was a question of why they are a fire hazard for DCL to provide then and not a fire hazard for NCL to provide them. Simple as that. ;)

Why add additional fire risks to your Staterooms when they are not needed to sell your ships?

DCL do not add electric kettles to their Staterooms when in Europe like other lines do either.

ex techie

And for the record, the Dream class Royal Suites have coffee makers and microwaves.

They are in 2 suites out of 1250. More controlled.

ex techie

Why add additional fire risks to your Staterooms when they are not needed to sell your ships?

DCL do not add electric kettles to their Staterooms when in Europe like other lines do either.

 

ex techie

Hmmm, But other lines do in the Med, out of the UK, out of AUS, China, etc. so the risk is ok there, but not the the US or Caribbean? Very logical. There are lots of risks in life and on a ship.

Another thread on another bard talks about doors between balconies. If the fire hazard is so high on ships, then ships should have balconies to begin with. But its a matter of profit and accepted risk, like everything on a ship.

Smoking in a casino is a risk. Yes I now DCL doesnt have a casino, but they allow smoking on a ship. That is a bigger risk than a kettle or coffee maker.:eek:

And for the record, the Dream class Royal Suites have coffee makers and microwaves.

They are in 2 suites out of 1250. More controlled.

 

ex techie

Its not more controlled unless a fireman is there with an extinguisher. Its just a lower risk since in a smaller percentage of cabins on the ship.

I'll join the fray: I bet with all the toddlers, there actually IS a greater chance of injury. And at sea, they wouldn't have quite the same care facilities close by as they do at their resorts.

Not buying the "staff time" argument, because ... Towel animals.

It's remotely possible they want to push people to the speciality cafes, but room service coffee is also available.

In short ... Feels like liability/CYA to me.

Its not more controlled unless a fireman is there with an extinguisher. Its just a lower risk since in a smaller percentage of cabins on the ship.

They have a very limited galley, most likely with additional sprinklers.

Yes. A lower risk due to the percentage of Staterooms, and therefor more a more controlled environment and area.

Both go hand in hand. If you remove the opportunity/frequency you lower the percentage, and you also lower the risk.

ex techie

They have a very limited galley, most likely with additional sprinklers.

Yes. A lower risk due to the percentage of Staterooms, and therefor more a more controlled environment and area.

Both go hand in hand. If you remove the opportunity/frequency you lower the percentage, and you also lower the risk.

 

 

ex techie

Ok then get rid of all smoking on the ship and search ever passenger for lighters and matches and get the risk lower. yeah right.

Im not centering anything I said. I am adding to the additional comments from others and proving its not about safety or fire hazard. If it was a fire hazard than no cruise like would ever allow anything that could cause a fire.

 

As Chengkp75 said, its not worth fighting some things with passengers, like the hair dyer, curling iron or stranger.

 

All balconies are a fire risk to a cruise line, its risk over reward, and the reward is greater. Smoking on a ship is a risk and the reward is greater for some reason. But to throw a coffee pot or a kettle in that is a far stretch.

I'm not going to get into it further about the risk/reward of coffee makers, but what you've said above is not quite right. Balconies are not a fire hazard. Having balconies where the fire zone boundary does not extend to the outboard edge of the balcony is a fire hazard, but this has been addressed by statute, since the Star Princess fire. Opening balcony dividers is a fire hazard, since it allows unrestricted passage of a fire from one cabin to the next. But, again, the balcony, per se, is not a fire hazard, any more than any other open deck area of the ship.