Anita Latte

Melody...have you made up your mind on driving vs. flying? I've done that drive from Colorado to Texas. We went to San Antonio but still...SOOOOOoooo boring. We cut through the pan handle...my grandparents lived in the panhandle for a while. Grandpa always said it was the place where you could stand up walk 50 miles and turn around and look at your house. It's just THAT flat. 

Laurie...I'm in total agreement with you regarding clothing. You have to feel good wearing it. It's a difficult ask wanting the colors and the fabric and the fit to all add up to feeling good but it'll be worth it to take the time to figure it all out, especially for a vacation wardrobe. It's too bad that we all don't just have a closet full of such choices.

My Kosas samples came and I LOVE them. The tinted foundation is wonderful. Sadly, they had a big sale and my foundation match was out of stock. 😞 I match to a 3.5.

Big news over here...it hit me last week or so that my 50th birthday is next March. I had a bit of a debate with myself as to whether or not is was really worth it to plan something big around my birthday...do I need all that just to celebrate? After tossing around SEVERAL ideas...we made reservations over the weekend in FAIRBANKS, ALASKA!!  Yes! I'm going back to Alaska and I couldn't be happier about it. As it turns out, March is one of the best months to visit Fairbanks because daylight is a manageable 12-14 hours each day and the Aurora Borealis tends to be more active around the equinoxes (so I've read) so March is a great month for chasing the aurora, as they say in all the ads. Also...it's still winter so all the winter activities are still available. 

I've made reservations for snowmobiling, dog sledding, and ice fishing. Those are our big ticket "excursions" and I'm gathering a list of other to do items to fill the space in between depending on how the day is and how we are feeling. The thing about chasing the aurora is that prime viewing is between 10PM and 2AM...so winter tourists like ourselves may fall into a pattern of a shorter nighttime sleep...our morning activities are all scheduled for mid-morning (9AM, 10AM, and 10:30AM) and also some mid-afternoon naps... All the reservations are for the first half of the week we are there...ice fishing is a go no matter the weather because it takes place in a heated hut...and we have some availability if we have to reschedule because of inclement weather.

There is quite a bit to do in and around Fairbanks...one place I'm really excited to visit is a museum that has around 100 pre-WW2 antique, fully restored and operational automobiles as well as the largest collection of vintage fashion in the Pacific Northwest. They have fashion on display with the cars to show the fashion of the day. It all sounds wonderful and it's a top rated museum for Fairbanks. Mom was reminded of a similar focused museum in Malaga, Spain. The Fairbanks museum opened in 2009, the Malaga one opened in 2010. We wonder if they collaborated at all...they are both a single auto collection of one collector.

So while ya'll are going through your summery clothing in the midst of your autumn...I'll be going through my winter clothing in the midst of my spring. LOL. I am well covered from the waist up...I have some pants that may work fine in town and I have great shoes...but I will need serious snow pants for the trip. I am hoping to continue the downward weight trend that has been happening though so I'm planning to wait for a bit for those purchases. Doing a bit of research on what may be good and then watching for sales as the season runs its course.

We did a bit of shopping over the weekend...went to Disney Springs and looked around. 'Tis the season for Earth colors...they are EVERYWHERE right now, as they usually are this time of year.

Laurie...I did have that same green dress but I culled it from the herd a while ago. There was something about the lining on the dress that was annoying...sheath dresses also aren't the best look on me especially in a solid color...so I let it go.

I think you have your DYB night dress picked with the red one. I thought you were wanting to bring the yellow dress for a Caribbean night...and I think that will work, especially if your accessories are theme appropriate. That would leave 3 more dresses...

You've nixed the linen...I would nix the green dress because I don't think it has a vacation feel to it. I would also nix the red jumpsuit because it is not worth wearing something that isn't bathroom friendly on vacation. You know how much I like prints so I would pick the 3 print dresses in the first picture. The far right two are just great dresses and I remember them and they look great on you. I also like the short blue print. The rust is okay...but concerns about how the fabric will travel and also just the general feel of the dress...it doesn't seem very vacation-y to me either. BUT...if you are generally cool in the evenings...then I would switch out the short blue print for that dress because it has more coverage and that could be nice. I would skip the animal print in the second photo because it looks like you are bringing more animal print in your day shirts.

22 hours ago, slidergirl said:

Lurking over here from  my thread as I'm not a color person:

 

Anita - I was thinking about buying another pair of Docs for the winter.  I loved them when I had them years ago.  As for what to wear:  check out the offerings on the Natural Life website.  Totally fun and boho clothes.  There's even a new tie dye "denim" jacket that I've been eyeing.  

There are several items on that site that I like! Thanks for sharing. I was looking for fun multi fabric skirts...I had been looking on etsy but most of the skirts that I liked were shipping from overseas and wouldn't be here in time. I just have to decide if I really want to get new skirts to wear to this festival or not. The rules get pretty strict these days and the skirt could potentially be damaged...especially if I sit on the ground (which may be the only option since you can't bring in blankets or anything) and at those prices...I'm not happy with that thought.

On the festival wear front...I asked DS if he would be unhappy if I were to borrow 3 of his concert tees that are still here. I like wearing band tees when we see bands...but these bands aren't necessarily all bands that I would want to wear under "normal" circumstances so I'm happy to just borrow his. They are all black...of course...so that's the way that is... A lot will depend on what the weather is actually like in November.

Meanwhile...I found a great cosmetics brand...at least by the information available. I've ordered some samples and the money you spend on the samples gets credited back in the form of a discount code that you can use to buy products on the site.

https://kosas.com/pages/kosas-tryouts

I threw away all my makeup! Buh bye! Never used was one lip sample, one eye liner pencil and a newer brow thing. My new samples should be here this week...I'll share how they are.

Those do look comfortable Melody but for something I’d wear almost daily, I buy zero drop and those aren’t zero drop. The colors also aren’t quite earthy.

I’m trying some new cosmetics. I realized everything I have is way old so I’m scrapping it all and starting with a fresh thought. I’m going to just focus on skin condition and making my skin look as good as I can. I used to be all about a dramatic eye for make up which is why I rarely wear make up but I’m looking for things to help my skin. I’ve found a small company making super clean products out of Wilmington NC. Apparently the man is French and worked in the south of France for Chanel for 8 years. He’s a chemist. The woman is an art history major with an eye for color. I’ve ordered the nude lip balm, peachy blush and the champagne toned highlighter. I’ve ordered two different concealer samples. If anyone’s interested:
 

https://riverorganics.org/pages/about-us

Love that legging print Margaret but those look medium to low rise to me. Whenever I get not high rise I have to deal with waistband rolling down…my tummy doesn’t cooperate unless it’s completely under wraps. 😂 

I’m currently debating my shoes. I know that we do get cool enough, especially in the evenings after the sun goes down, that having non-sandal shoes is nice. I’ve been eyeing the clog style of Birkenstock. I think that suits me.

 I’m about to start breaking in my Doc Martens. We’re going to a rock festival next month and they would be perfect to wear there but I’ve only worn them a few times. Also debating what else I might wear to the festival…it’s a super fun atmosphere and with it being in November, could be great weather. 

I like that twin set and I don’t like many personally for me…but I like the pattern!

Laurie…I looked to see if that new color for the Target shorts was online but it isn’t. That happens sometimes where the store merchandise is different than the online. Idk how far Target is for you or if you would even still have shorts in your local stores? 
 

I hope everyone cruising, Laurie, Margaret and Melody, all have great cruises but I’m just not ready for cruising as nice as it sounds. We’re planning our 25th wedding anniversary trip for next fall. Actual anniversary is July 5 but how silly we’re we picking a holiday weekend to get married? Anyway, we want to go to Glacier National Park in Montana. We plan to fly in somewhere and rent a van and drive up there. We’ll use the van for hopefully a good sleep with a decent bed situation and then plan to backpack and camp for one and/or two nights along different trails to get into the wilderness. The plan is to do that at least twice with a break back at the van for at least one or two nights in between. 
 

To train up for that we have quite the plan involving lots of hiking/walking, strength training, breathing exercises, some intermediate trips to elevation in NC and wherever else nearby to see how we do and have more training because we’ll be going from elevation 24 to several thousand in MT! 
 

We haven’t been back west in so long. And it’ll have been 24 years since we visited Glacier National Park which is where we went for our first anniversary. Then we plan for Denali and then we plan for Kilimanjaro.

Well the boards did something again and now I can’t sign in again on my MacBook. *sigh*
 

Laurie…the animal print dress! I could see you in that! I don’t think it looks exceedingly formal…it could straddle formal and go into less formal special occasions. Definitely watch the sales on that one. Both the red and the golden yellow dress will be very appropriate.

I really enjoyed the short cruise we took embarking the day after Thanksgiving. They started here and there with the Christmas decorations so definitely red will be appropriate and you could probably find some picture worthy places with Christmas decor on the ship.

I do still have some long pants because it does get cooler here if not cold necessarily. We did have to turn the heat on last year. But I find that I can stretch the shorts with long sleeves tops far into the cooler season. If my upper body is warm and if I’m wearing socks and shoes, then having exposed legs doesn’t bother me too much is cooler weather.

We we’re in Target again and DH suggested I see if there were any new colors in the shorts I like so much. There was a perfect Earth caramel color. It’s a great color for me in particular but it would be a great staple for any Earth ladies.

I tried on the size down from what I’ve been buying and so close! I could button the shorts and I know they stretch but the rise was just a little off because the waist wanted to creep up just a little higher…a bit of pull in the lower hip…we went ahead and bought that one and the current size…and grabbed the purple in the size down too just because.

Oh how I love the aspen! One thing I miss about living in CO. Lovely pics Melody…you look lovely too.

So you are going natural Laurie? No more  coloring? I’m getting random gray that seems to throughout my whole head and not too concentrated in any one spot…except at my temple on my right. There’s a little grouping there but I’m hoping the gray keeps coming in more evenly when it does. 

Weird that you couldn’t see the photos Melody, they are supposed to be in the post with no link. These are the dark pink shorts with one of my fave casual tops. The top is from Bass Pro…I think it’s a Columbia top. I love the scoop neck and the way the sleeves are…also it’s a women’s friendly top with a bit of shape to it and not so boxy. I think it totally works with the “dark pink” shorts.

im just seeing how the wrinkles in my shirt aren’t very flattering…oh well.

Laurie! Yes I was so glad to get to spend time with DS. I’m with you…I like to arrive early and stay for the whole thing. I never understand when people leave early to beat the crowd or whatever. I understand that maybe some people really need to be home by a certain time (babysitters or whatever) but I always figure that I paid for the whole experience, why would I cut it short?

Melody…nice photos. My family has gotten the same reaction on cruises we’ve taken together. It’s surprising to some how much fun we have together…they don’t think we’re family…they think we’re friends. We always answer that we ARE friends AND family.

My Target shorts arrived and I was right about the color. Dark pink could be called Deep Salmon. It’s not a perfect Earth color but it’s very workable.

Here I’m wearing one of my fave shirts. I love patterns. This one is low contrast which works so well for my Soft Autumn self. I’m showing it with the purple shorts and the pink shorts. You can see how the purple picks up one of the colors in the pattern but is cooler in tone overall than my shirt. I think the pink blends pretty well.

Color wise that sweater has my name all over it…but I don’t love the neckline. And it seems a bit boxy. 
 

I’m only buying a few items as I need them. I found a comfortable pair of high waisted shorts at Target. 
 

https://www.target.com/p/women-s-high-rise-shorts-a-new-day/-/A-82281265?preselect=81797290#lnk=sametab

The purple was more Air than Earth but I have a few Air shirts and also I can make purple work. I liked them so much I decided to order the dark pink color…I’m hoping it’s more coral than pink but I can make dark pink work too, especially with my concert tees for casual wear. When I ordered the shorts last weekend, they said delivery on Tuesday but they were coming from Oregon and there’s shipping delays…but they should be here tomorrow.

DH and I realized our passports expire in December. Holy cow!! Expected 18 weeks for normal processing on renewals!! We’re going to get pictures taken this weekend and get them sent off. I hate renewing my passport and having all that time without it but I guess I’m not going anywhere so it’s not a bad time to do it.

I appreciate your concern Laurie and Melody! I'm fine. DS was home for several weeks and I was changing some of my habits to maximize my time with him. I was so happy to see him! It had been almost a year since we had seen him. WOW, he looked great. He had really trimmed down...his hadn't gotten a single hair cut so his hair was long...OMG...it was great fun to see how he had changed in that year. We did our best to have a fun Florida time while he was here...so much seafood! etc.

DS wanted to be home to go through getting vaccinated...we managed to get him fully vaccinated before he went back to London so he didn't have to quarantine. There had been talk of that change coming to the UK when he headed home, but it wasn't official until about halfway through his visit. So grateful for that and hope that it doesn't change because right now we're planning on him coming home for the holidays. Very much hoping that this year will be more normal in terms of seeing him...although...we haven't had a "normal" year yet for him at uni, so...hoping this year is what we had hoped it would be like for him to be away at school.

I'm so glad that something changed with the boards so that I can sign in again on my MacBook! My MacBook is VERY OLD...we bought it refurbished because I wanted the small 11" one and they didn't make it anymore back then, don't think that has changed, but anyway I've reached the end, I think, of my ability to update the OS...so I'm not able to use some websites. But man I am happy that I'm not typing this on my iPad!

SO DH and I have decided to chill on the home improvement projects and just start using our spaces no matter what the finished condition is. So we started using the pantry and the yoga room. It's very exciting to be able to use these spaces even if the walls aren't completely done. They "need" to be textured, primed and painted...and in some places there is still some sanding to do on the basic taping areas...but we're just worn out on the projects...feeling the need for just living and not constantly trying to do these projects. It was so nice while DS was here to just put everything on hold...and when he left DH and I were like...you know what? Let's just keep putting the projects on hold. Let's get into some maintenance mode now and just live in the house for a while. So that's what we're doing.

Our focus is turning toward health and fitness. My weight had just skyrocketed...I'm pretty sure my weight was back where it was, if not higher, when I first started trying to be serious about it before I started Zumba. Hence, the yoga room...which really is for any exercise that needs space...whether that's physical therapy of what.

I have lost some weight with changes in food. I'm needing new clothes which is fun...but I'm hopeful to keep losing weight so I'm not investing too much in clothing until I feel like I've reached my goal. 

I've started really taking care of my skin. I'm super picky about chemicals and what I use on my skin and generally have defaulted to using nothing...yes, seriously...nothing...but recently I've decided to change that. I've found a great cleanser and moisturizer for me. The company is Osmia Organics and the products I have been using are a Rose Clay Facial Soap (soap isn't really accurate because there are no "soap" ingredients) and the Purely Simple face cream. Both are listed for sensitive skin, which I have. I've been using them for about a week now and I like it so much. I do use a serum after washing and before the cream. If anyone is interested: if you sign up for the newsletter you can get a 15% discount on your first order.

https://osmiaorganics.com/products/sensitive-skin-face-kit

I'm on a serious hunt for a daily SPF. That is so hard. So many chemicals!! And I don't want white face...or clogging pores. But talking about how the sun is fading sofa fabrics etc with friends makes you realize how even if you don't leave your house, you are still dealing with sunlight and should have some SPF on.

Laurie, Margaret and Melody...so fun that y'all have cruises to plan for! Personally...I'm not there yet with the wanting to cruise. I'll be very interested to hear how all your cruises are...between y'all you are covering 3 major cruise lines so it'll be interesting to see how your experiences are. Looking forward to some virtual travel!

We did get our boat! There was a swinging deal on the boat we finally settled on at a very nice dealership in Cape Canaveral. We’ve had a bit of a struggle getting out on the water…DH had that meniscectomy, etc, so we haven’t been out too much yet. We have all the boating maps for the majority of the Indian River Lagoon though and are hopeful the chop conditions will be conducive to going out this weekend. That’s really what is the biggest obstacle…having those nicer water conditions coincide with the weekend. DH’s work has gone to a 4/10 schedule and we aren’t skilled boaters enough yet to go out on the evening yet.

Talking with one of my neighbors, he said that years ago, you could basically set your clock by the afternoon rain showers here but it isn’t like that anymore. There isn’t a rhythm to the weather anymore...and my weather app is completely unreliable...it doesn’t have a handle on the rain at all. When I lived in Loveland back in the 90s, the afternoon rain showers were also consistent...idk if they still are...I feel like the weather systems of the globe have become less organized and more chaotic in general...as they say they have for the hurricanes. The lack of strength in previously established weather patterns has translated into sluggish hurricanes that persist in place and don’t move along well...at least, that’s what “they” say.

On 6/24/2021 at 9:11 PM, laurspag said:

Anita and Sally, how is the heat in Florida right now?

I’m having such problems with cc right now…I can’t sign on with my MacBook…probably because it’s so old…I’m having problems with several sites *sigh*. It’s just weird to post with my phone… ANYWAY…

Over here on the Space Coast we’ve finally settled into what I think is more typical Florida summer weather. The rainy season has started…finally. My poor garden…it was rough there for so long…but now we have moderate highs in upper 80s/lower 90s…lots of humidity…heavier, sticky air which gives way to decent afternoon and evenings when the rain cools everything a bit…and if there’s a nice coastal breeze…we’ll…it’s nice weather for most water related activities but the typical interruptions if you are trying to do something and you’re bothered by rain.

DH had to fly to DC for work last week…going over to Orlando, I hit up Trader Joe’s for the pantry staples I like from there…and I was so close to Disney Springs…I thought it’d be nice to be there for a bit, grab some food. I had just gotten settled outside at Earl of Sandwich when the skies open up and poured down. By the time I was done with my meal, the rain had passed…so if your day is ordered in such a way, the rain isn’t a big deal…just wear proper shoes that you don’t mind getting wet and clothing that deals well with the rain, early afternoon sticky, post rain relief and all is well.

We are a family of three…the best cabin we’ve stayed in was what they used to call a panoramic ocean view on RCCL’s Enchantment OTS. These are the mid ship cabins that were added when that ship was cut in half and lengthened. The cabin itself has more square footage…the cabins are set back a bit but the window wall is flush with the edge of the balconies…the set back entrance means that they aren’t quite as big as simply making the balcony space interior space…but they are larger than the balcony interior space.

The sofa converts to a bed by removing the back and it’s adult sized in length. A plus on the room is that the window area has a long seat so even with the bed made there is still the one chair and a window bench seat big enough for two so that you have a place to sit that isn’t a bed, even when the sofa is still a bed. Very handy in the morning for putting on shoes, etc. That window seat is also such that you can sit there and stretch your legs out if you are so inclined. The midship location couldn’t be beat.

Its a pretty specific cabin, but there you go. That name panoramic ocean view is now being applied to the newer cabins added on forward decks on some Royal ships and I can’t recall what they now call these cabins I’m referencing on Decks 7&8 midship. This cabin I’m talking about is literally only on Enchantment.

Travel sizes can still have way more than what you actually need for two weeks, especially in some skin care products where you use a pea sized bit of cream etc. Try decanting such products into contact lens cases, the kind that have screw on tops. They are water tight, small and light. If you have them lying around, you can test capacity for getting through 2 weeks. Also, you could purchase sample size containers for cosmetics, like 5g, I saw several available from discount stores and online in various quantities. Labeling could be a challenge...

3 hours ago, navybankerteacher said:

Don’t you think that there might be just a bit of difference between having gotten into a habit that is hard to quit, or having had a childhood with poor nutrition - both of which may involve great difficulty in overcoming —— and simply ignoring overwhelming evidence concerning an easy protection against a deadly disease?

I’m very surprised to see gray in what I’ve come to expect to be your black and white world from your posts I have read. Do I believe there are extenuating circumstances? Do I believe there is not a one size fits all solution? I absolutely do.

However, I would argue about COVID being such a deadly disease in and of

itself. I believe the overall response to the pandemic has been narrow focused with a reliance on a “magic pill” (something so many people seem to be looking for for other health related challenges) or in this case, a vaccine and while I’m not going to argue against the vaccine in general, I do take exception to the fact that there has been little to no talk about the wake up call this virus has been for the general state of health of so many people in the world. As a PP said, there are underlying conditions that contribute greatly to how deadly the disease has been. At a 1.8% fatality rate for the US, that may seem small but it reflects a large number. What we aren’t knowing is how many of those deaths or occurrences of Long COVID (not in the fatality rate) have occurred in otherwise healthy people, at a healthy weight with no other diseases.

All this force and effort to get the US vaccinated is kind of pathetic. The world is desperate for these vaccines and in many places the state of health care in those places is a reflection of the need for the vaccine help. In a pandemic, we need to open our eyes to the fact that viruses don’t recognize borders. It’s a matter of protecting the seriously at risk the world over. The UK is currently debating whether or not they will administer the vaccine to their general teen population because it seems out of balance to vaccinate those that are likely healthy enough to not have severe cases while there are others in the world that are more at risk. The at risk youth, yes, but the talk I’ve read recognizes that the world could use some more help.

Frankly, I’m disgusted by all the incentives to get vaccinated here. All that money would have been better spent making improvements elsewhere…like outside the US. Or hey, maybe helping to pay for things that are seriously in need of funding. As a Navy person, I hope you are spending as much effort lobbying for our Navy’s budget concerns as you do spreading your opinion about vaccines and COVID on these boards. I’m sure you know the status of the legacy maintenance systems and the readiness of our fleet and how needed the help is for that situation. Yes, I was sarcastic and that’s not well done on me…but I do believe that there’s an entire dialogue of lifestyle choices that aren’t being talked about in the focus on vaccines. I also believe that there has been a huge missed opportunity for that conversation and education as to the impact of lifestyle choices and susceptibility to what could otherwise not be as deadly a disease. All the talk is about the scare of new variants if the virus continues to circulate if there isn’t “herd immunity” but the fact is that we don’t know the viral load the vaccinated carry (so many factors affect the immune response) so it’s likely somewhat unique among individuals. So the worry about new variants seems very selfish to me when there are seriously at risk unvaccinated in other parts of the world.

What some people don’t  understand is that continuing to say the same things over and over doesn’t change anyone’s mind. What might change someone’s mind? Scarcity. Take away how easy is it right now. Make it harder to get. Start sending the vaccines to places that need and want them. Then you might light a spark under people to get a jab. It’s like people have completely forgotten the spirit of independence that radiates from so many in this country. That spirit is not convinced to do what the masses are doing for any external reason whatsoever. That spirit of independence wants to make up their mind without outside pressure, because it’s what they decide to do and they have peace about their decision because they came to the conclusion to do it on their own. The world needs to lay off the pressure because that seriously only makes some people dig in their heels harder. It’s like there are no marketing people at all running the vaccine program…there is no understanding of the current target market at all.

10 hours ago, evandbob said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/virtually-all-hospitalized-covid-patients-have-one-thing-common-they-n1270482

 

Seems the unvaxxed are the ones being hospitalized now.  Should we start the chant of personal responsibility and disallow Medicare/Medicaid payments for their in hospital costs?

 

Does Medicare/Medicaid not pay for medical care that results from smoking, eating crap, not exercising, unprotected sex, etc? I get the sentiment because I feel similarly for those that deal with preventable health issues that result from lifestyle choices. There’s a safety net there that maybe should be swept away, then people may put more import on what they eat and do and have a greater investment in their choices if we start saying things like Type 2 Diabetes and STDs, etc won’t be covered.

Mixing vaccines, especially if there becomes a requirement for boosters is a possibility in the US depending on how the approval process goes for the Novavax vaccine and how the unknown future plays out.  I’ve read that the Novavax vaccine is likely to be the booster shot of choice as the technology used for the AZ and J&J vaccines get reduced effectiveness with subsequent shots and the side effects from the mRNA vaccines generally get worse with subsequent shots.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out as some countries decided to stop using the AZ vaccine and there are likely many in the same boat as the OP.

On 6/10/2021 at 12:14 PM, 57redbird said:

Somewhat off topic but.....  I've got a top & jacket that the colors are way TOO loud for me.....looking for suggestions on how to mute the colors.....bleach via a spray bottle, vinegar......  help, please & TIA.

Tea or Coffee stain. You might want to run a test somehow but this was recommended to those of use that look best in more muted colors as a way to tone down brighter colors.

11 minutes ago, ColeThornton said:

 

 

That's very unrealistic definition of success.

Especially with a vaccine that is not 100% effective.

The reports are that there were about 1300 on the ship in total including crew and passengers. I read that there about 10 children on board.

It appears that the mass testing for reentry were antigen tests. Then the PCR tests were administered to confirm the positives as well as being administered to the close contacts. The close contacts were told to quarantine in their cabins while awaiting their PCR test results.

It seems to me that finding only 2 positive cases on board is a huge confirmation of the process. The vaccines aren’t 100% effective, but they are proving to be highly effective in preventing symptomatic COVID. We can’t know the exact percentage because with asymptomatic disease there’s no motivation for testing and unless you are in a position to need a negative test, for travel or work or surgery or whatever, we can’t know how many asymptomatic cases there are in the vaccinated. The so called breakthrough cases for symptomatic COVID are easier to get info about obviously.

Reading the different articles, most articles are affirming the process. The headline grabber is that there were any cases, but deeper in the article are the affirmations that because of the vaccine requirements etc for the cruise line protocol, there is no community spread onboard. The headlines are just the typical sensationalism to get readership, but the tone of most reports is that everything is working as it should, including the vaccines, even though there are two positive cases, they are asymptomatic. 

I think it’s very informative for future cruisers to be able to learn about what happens on the ship when a positive cases happens. Reading about the consequences to the close contact cases, etc.

Also, I don’t know the cruise itinerary nor what the two passengers did, but cruising to a place where cases are still high, vaccine rates are still low, and the world is watching variants spread and we are all watching for how effective vaccines are against these variants, there may always be COVID cases reported on any cruise especially if travel is involved to get to embarkation and there is a mix of country of origin onboard.

8 hours ago, SuiteTraveler said:

"Almost unbelievable."  Exactly.  What needs to be exposed here is when did they get vaccinated, which vaccine...

What I think would be most helpful would be to mark the strain of virus. I wonder if they were infected with the Delta variant that is causing surges in cases in areas of the UK, or some other variant.