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The answer is in the post: "Some wines we previously paid an upcharge for were actually now covered, even though several of the wines, but not all, went up by $1 or $2. I was extremely happy with the Plus package." This could ONLY be true of Princess honored the $15 limit. (Or if the price of some wines went down, which we know can't happen.)

I can't imagine the Elites wanting to participate with the Blues.

Truly an individual choice. There are many who post here who only sail in Suites, so we know where they will come out, and that is fine. I personally detest the location of most of the Suites on Princess Ships (all the way up front, or all the way aft) and I would never pay extra for those cabins. But again, that is me. I am not at all intrigued by the wake view. Enchanted does have Penthouse Suites which are mid-aft on Riviera Deck. One of the few ships to include those. Not sure if those are in play for you, but for me, they would be more enticing. Med Cruises are port-intensive and if you are off the ship at 8:00 a.m. most days, back on again at 4:30, then enjoy cocktails, dinner and some evening entertainment, the extra room in the cabin would not be all that necessary. That is the way we tend to travel, so again, I would not spend the extra money. Some day I will find a cruise where the cabin location and itinerary will make me try out a Suite. But so far, nothing has enticed me to do so. I assumed that they would not be stowaways,...hence I worded it the way I did. 😁

Would it be x4 or only x2 for the first two passengers?

Exactly. totally made up math. Princess could "raise" the rate of Gratuities to $500 per day when paid a la carte, but "include" them in the Plus Package that you pay $60 for, and then claim that for a 7 day cruise, you are getting $3,500 worth of value for $420. Of course, no one would ever pay a la carte ever again, and then the comparable value is meaningless.

It does and it was a GREAT explanation.

That only works for the first 10 or 15, or however many the cooling unit can comfortably hold. But as that inventory gets depleted, someone has to start making more to restock the fridge. As I mentioned in another thread, the Packages that Princess created have placed downward pressure on the labor force and the square footage of the service venues, and there does not seem to have been any consideration of that fact by way of allocating more labor or venue space to fill the growing demand. Sell more Packages--> get more drink orders. Get more drink orders--> need more bartenders and bars. Allow people to order via the app and get their order delivered anywhere on the ship--> need more servers to transport those orders all over the ship. Introduce new, fancy ice cream concoctions--> need more ice cream scoopers to fill the orders and more ice cream venues for people to go to. Now, let me know when anyone sees that Princess has increased its workforce or venue space to account for any of this.

Give the people what they want. Top 15 Grossing Movies of All Time, Worldwide. 6 of them from the MCU: 1 Avatar 2 Avengers: Endgame 3 Avatar: The Way of Water 4 Titanic 5 Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens 6 Avengers: Infinity War 7 Spider-Man: No Way Home 8 Jurassic World 9 The Lion King 10 The Avengers 11 Furious 7 12 Top Gun: Maverick 13 Frozen II 14 Avengers: Age of Ultron 15 Black Panther 900 Downton Abbey Given the statistics above, that is virtually impossible. I think that Iron Man was the first real Marvel movie, and that came out in 2008. So someone who is 60 now was 45 back then. Certainly not "too old" to have gotten interested in the franchise and still sticks with it.

The extra time is associated with designing the exterior of the glass container. It's an arts and crafts project with no real upside.

Princess Patter refreshing morning 10:00-12:00 Movie: Caligula Movies Under the Stars, Deck 16 Midship relaxing afternoon 12:00-2:00 Movie: Midnight Cowboy Movies Under the Stars, Deck 16 Midship 2:00-3:30 Medallion Swap Party Toss your Medallion into a bowl. Pairs of Medallions will then be drawn and the randomly chosen couples can then head to banquets in the Vista Lounge to indulge their wildest fantasies. Meet in Princess Live!, Deck 7 Midship 4:00-5:00 Pickle Ball Tournament Play "Pickle Ball" in a way you never have before! Center Court, Deck 18 Aft

Sapphire uses the pullouts that extend into the cabin area. I assume Diamond is the same.

Not sure how you got to this conclusion. I just re-read the whole thread and there was no differentiation between groupings until post 13 where the word "everyone" was first introduced and has now been addressed and corrected. Nowhere is a question asked about what the atmosphere is like "for adults".

Just adding a bit of information to round out the story. On the Royal Class ships, the sofa is not a "pull-out" but instead converts to a single bed in the same direction as the sofa itself. The occupant sleeps with their head at one "arm" of the sofa with their feet at the other. That way there is no obstruction to the balcony as there is with the pull-out sofa shown in the picture in this and the earlier thread.

I pretty much closed out the browser window when I heard that line.

Just want to make it clear to readers. "Open to everyone" is not the same thing as "open to all adults."

I understand that point and sympathize...to a degree. (A small degree at that.) If all you want is a cup of coffee and you choose to get in a line with 22 people in front of you at an ice cream stand, you get what you deserve. There are plenty of other places on the ship that serve coffee that don't also make time-sucking dessert circuses that one can (and should) go to.

??? Taken directly from the Princess website: Retreat Pool – Adjacent to The Sanctuary, the Retreat Pool provides an exclusive area for adults to relax and rejuvenate. The Retreat Pool on Royal Princess offers more space and seating than the adult pools on other Princess vessels, plus adds new Retreat Cabanas that can be reserved for an enhanced experience. https://www.princess.com/news/backgrounders_and_fact_sheets/factsheet/Passengers-Can-Enjoy-the-Ultimate-in-Pampering-Aboard-Royal-Princess.html

They could do that. But most people eschew earbuds that have been worn by others. Pretty gross. Better solution is to BYO for an afternoon "silent showing" with a regular showing of the entertainment at night, or an audio showing in the afternoon in the theater. Those without their own listening devices still have an option and are not cut out . The number of people under the age of 60 who I know who do not have BT listening devices can be counted on one hand. When Apple stopped putting the output jack receptacle in its iPhones, people went BT all the way. And when Work From Home became mandatory and people were on Zoom calls and every day, the sales skyrocketed. Princess could provide spare pairs for the 5% of the people who don't have such devices, but I'm not sure those people would want to wear them.

You could lose your choice of cabin. So if you covet the cabin you currently have, you may not want to do this.

I think I found Nemo!

But this is a picture of people enjoying a movie UNDER THE STARS with few if any people actually using the pool area as a pool area. 100% in favor of that 100% of the time. But when the staff at the Trident Grill cannot hear me place my order at 1:00 pm because some configuration of Journey with which I am not familiar, (no Steve Perry = no Journey) is blasting from the screen, then that is a problem.

Nice to see them "in person", but man, could she BE any more melodramatic??

A front-facing cabin then would be awesome. You'd have a view something like this:

You are missing the point. I am not arguing in favor of changing the age limit at the Retreat. I am arguing that people who don't qualify to go there are still worthy of and entitled to some peace and quiet every now and then around the main pool area. The main pool area should not be cacophonous at all hours of the day. A Bluetooth transmitter system would go a long way to fixing that. But now that you bring it up, if were up to me it would be 15 and older as long as they are accompanied by an adult.

Both silly and prejudicial. When my daughter was a teenager and we cruised together, we wanted to stay together as a family. The three of us would not have added any noise to the Retreat area when she was 15. But we followed the rules and stuck together at the main pool areas. Pretty obnoxious to think that a family of two parents and a 15 year old can't fit someone's definition of "quiet" or that somehow that family unit is not worthy of or entitled to the same quiet as everyone else.