Tell me about Zuiderdam please.....

[packedandready]

any info about this ship...and things I might not learn about from HAL's website. Thanks

 

Adult pool areas???

Restaurants?? Cafes??

Room Service?? Extra Fee??

Any place to get cookies??:D

[Assateague Island Princes]

I can help out with some of your questions - 24 hour room service on all HAL ships is free - and wonderful! Big plus is being able to order room service off the MDR menu during the first hour the MDR is open. We do that often on formal nights because we are not interested in getting dressed up. The regular room service menu is quite comprehensive, and provides HOT breakfast selections - eggs, omelets, bacon, sausage, etc., which I understand is not common on most other lines.

 

Cookies??? YES! They had them at the Lido buffet right at the ice cream station. Try the cinnamon ice cream w/oatmeal raisen cookies - OMG!!!;)

[Copper10-8]

ms Zuiderdam (2002-present) Built in 2002 as ms Zuiderdam by Fincantieri - Cantieri Navali Italiani S.p.A., Marghera (Venice), Italy for Holland America Line. The first of a class of four 'Vista' ships (Oosterdam, Westerdam and Noordam are her sisters), she was the largest-ever passenger ship to join the HAL fleet at the time. The names of the four ships translate to the four directions of the compass in the Dutch language; Zuid meaning south, Oost for east, Noord is north and West for, you guessed it, .........west.

 

The Vista class was so named for the extensive use of glass in their superstructures. Zuiderdam shares similar exterior dimensions with Carnival's Legend and Costa's Atlantica class while Cunard's Queen Victoria is an enlarged version of the same design, as is HAL's Signature Class ship Eurodam and her younger sister Nieuw Amsterdam. At 81,769 gross registered tons, Zuiderdam is almost 30% larger than HAL's "R" and almost 35% larger than their "S" class ships. There were originally five Vista’s planned for HAL but that fifth hull was first transferred to Cunard Line in 2003 and then a second time to P&O Cruises to become their ms Arcadia.

 

Zuiderdam was the third ship in Holland America Line's history to carry the prefix "zuider" or "southerly". The first vessel was launched in 1912 as the 5,211 ton cargo ship Zuiderdijk. At the time, "dijk" or "dyk" was the suffix used by HAL for cargo vessels while "dam" was used for their passenger ships. Zuiderdijk would sail between Rotterdam and Savannah, GA through 1922. She then served as a troop transport during World War I.

 

The second "Zuider", and the first "Zuiderdam", was launched from a shipyard in Rotterdam for outfitting in 1941. However, a month later she was damaged and capsized during a British air raid. The German occupiers raised her hull but later sunk her again to block the port of Rotterdam to allied forces. She was raised once again after World War II, but never completed.

 

 

At the time of her launching on 14 December 2001, Zuiderdam embraced the latest industry and environmental technologies such as the use of a diesel-electric power plant for optimal energy efficiency and an Azipod propulsion system. Zuiderdam's funnel configuration came out as a result of the ship having two power plants, one with three Sulzer diesels and the other with two Sulzer diesels and a gas turbine engine. Not only does this provide for improved safety with the ship being able to function with one disabled engine room, it has resulted in the first major passenger ship with two working fore/aft funnels since the 1965 Italian Lines' Raffaello. The Azimuth "pod" units operate like giant outboard motors underneath Zuiderdam's hull. Their ability to change direction make the ship remarkably maneuverable which is an added plus during tendering operations and/or negotiating smaller ports.

 

The 951-foot long ship came out with 924 cabins, 85 percent of which had an ocean view. Zuiderdam featured 67 percent verandah cabins as well as a five-star concierge service for the exclusive use of her penthouse and deluxe verandah suite guests. New features onboard Zuiderdam were the Northern Lights disco/night club, a three-deck, as opposed to a two-deck high show lounge, an internet center, a cabaret-style show venue called the Queens Lounge, an alternative restaurant, the Pinnacle Grill (originally known as the Odyssey), featuring fine Pacific Northwest specialties and wines, the Windstar Cafe gourmet coffee and pastry shop, a greatly expanded children's facility and the Greenhouse Spa, the largest spa facility in the HAL fleet.

 

 

The Vista class ships were designed so that eighty-five percent of their staterooms have ocean views and sixty-seven percent have verandas; the extensive use of glass in the superstructure of the four ships is also reflected in the class name. The Vista’s feature "exterior glass elevators," located on both sides of the vessels and vertically traversing 10 decks, providing guests with panoramic sea views. Zuiderdam was also the first HAL ship to offer data ports in every stateroom for internet and e-mail access.

 

Her art collection carries a Venetian theme throughout the ship. Suspended in a three-story atrium, a Waterford Crystal Seahorse sets the mood for several art pieces which can be found throughout the ship. Examples of these include a painting of HRH Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands by pop culture artist and icon Andy Warhol, medallions by Frank Lloyd Wright, Carnival in Venice, created by Daniel Ogier, cast aluminum elevator doors inspired by the art deco work of the New York Chrysler Building, a massive floral painting by Charles Ben and a large collection of antiques and centuries-old paintings. Eighty-five percent of her staterooms have ocean views and sixty-seven percent have verandahs.

 

After crossing the Atlantic without (revenue) passengers under the command of her 'take out' captain, Jean "Jack" van Coevoerden, Zuiderdam arrived in Ft. Lauderdale on Monday 2 December 2002 at approximately 2:30 pm. This was followed by a trio of three-night inaugural cruises for the media and travel professionals as well as visits to the ship by the company's Mariner frequent cruiser clientele. On Saturday 14 December 2002, Zuiderdam was christened at Pier 26 by her godmother, broadcaster and TV anchor Joan Lunden. There were actually two dedication ceremonies that day. In the first for Mariners and VIP's, held in the ship's Vista show lounge, champagne was poured over the ship's bell by Captain van Coevorden and Mariner alumni representatives James and Lola Melhorne.

 

 

The second ceremony was held pierside where a stage had been built underneath Zuiderdam's starboard bow. A large crowd of invited guests had gathered there, a band played and representatives of the ship's crew in their summer whites were holding flags of the nations (United States, the Netherlands, Indonesia and the Philippines) involved in the creation and operation of the ship. The name 'Zuiderdam' was concealed underneath a white canvas until Ms. Lunden gave the cue for its unveiling with "I can officially give you the ms Zuiderdam". A champagne bottle was then released, breaking against the ship's hull, confetti flew, the band played, the ship's whistle was sounded which was answered by the other cruise ships present in Port Everglades that day, namely Volendam, Monarch of the Seas, Grand Princess, Oceana and OceanBreeze.

 

Dignitaries present for both events included Carnival chairman and CEO Mickey Arison, his wife Madeline, HAL president and CEO Kirk Lanterman and his wife Janet, Fincantieri shipyard executive chairman Corato Antonini, HAL architect and interior designer Frans Dingemans and Reverend David Mesenbring, who blessed the ship.

 

She then set off that late afternoon on her maiden voyage, a seven-day cruise to the eastern Caribbean, alternating those with seven-day western Caribbean cruises. Her itineraries since then have taken her from the Caribbean via the Panama Canal to the North American west coast, Alaska's inside Passage and Glacier Bay, as well as various ports of Europe.

 

 

In November, 2003, Holland America Cruise Line announced a program of up-scaling their cruise ships, cruise line image and passenger cruise experience called the 'Signature of Excellence program'. This enhancement program included stateroom amenities (luxury beds and bed linens upgrades, Euro-style mattresses, waffle-weave bathrobes and Egyptian cotton towels to all cabin categories), new massage-type showerheads and professional-grade hair dryers in all bathrooms, new flat-screen LCD televisions with DVD players, make-up mirrors with halo lightning, fresh flowers and complimentary fruit baskets in all cabins, a Culinary Arts Center presented by Food & Wine magazine, for gourmet cooking demonstrations and interactive classes; thermal suite treatment, a hydrotherapy and thalassotherapy pool and heated ceramic lounges in the Greenhouse Spa and Salon; and the ”Loft”, an area designed exclusively for teens (ages 13-17). Zuiderdam had her SOE part 1 enhancements installed while in dry-dock in December 2005 at Freeport, the Bahamas.

 

In April 2008, Zuiderdam again entered dry dock in Palermo, Sicily for another refurbishment known as SOE part 2. There, a new block of thirty-four prefabricated cabins was lowered into place and installed on her stern increasing her passenger capacity from 1,848 to 1,916 and her gross registered tonnage from 81,769 to 82,305. Her existing Internet Center was moved to the starboard side of the Crow's Nest becoming part of her new Explorations Café. Her Pinnacle Grill restaurant was expanded to 130 seats and also on Deck 2 (LP) starboard side, a new Pinnacle and Wine Bar was added in place of her original Windstar Café (The Windstar Café Coffee Bar was moved to Deck 10 forward to become part of the Explorations Café). The part of Zuiderdam's Ocean Bar that was originally hidden from view behind walkway panels was "opened up".

 

 

A dedicated high-end 36-seat (six rows of six theater-style reclining leather seats with small tables in between) home theater called the "Screening Room" was added in place of where the Internet Center used to be. Her shopping arcade on Deck 3 was expanded and updated, including the addition a high-end jewelry shop called “Merabella” as well as a viewing room in front of the existing shops. Also there on Deck 3 in place of the original library, a new Digital Workshop was installed.

 

 

Lastly, routine "dry-dock maintenance" was performed including all hardwood floors being refinished and additional artwork added to her passageways.

 

Zuiderdam is scheduled for an 8-day dry-dock in Freeport, Bahamas (24-30 March 2010) where she will gain a second alternative restaurant, "Canaletto", serving Italian cuisine. Canaletto, named for the famous 18th century Venetian artist, which debuted on the ms Eurodam in 2008, will come to life for dinner nightly between 5:30 and 9:30 pm when a section of the ships' Lido restaurant is transformed into the Italian restaurant. Canaletto's menu begins with an antipasti plate that changes nightly, followed by soup choices, salad, four pasta dishes and entrees like veal Milanese, chicken marsala scaloppini, osso bucco and cod putanesca. Canaletto is open for dinner from 5:30 to 9:30 pm.

[Krazy Kruizers]

On our recent Ziuiderdam cruises children were allowed to use both pools.

Restaurants:

Lido -- buffet for breakfast, lunch and dinner

Main dining room -- open every monring for breakfast, some days for lunch and every evening for dinner.

Pinnacle Grill - Open for lunch most days - $10 per person. Open for dinner - $20 per person. If you are in a Deluxe Suite -- you can have breakfast here.

Soon to come - Canaletto Restaurant -- open only for dinner - free.

Room Service is free -- most people do tip the person who delivers the food to you.

[Krazy Kruizers]

Cabin Breakfast Menu

Preferred Time Frame

6 AM - 6:30 AM 7 AM - 7:30 AM 8 AM - 8:30 AM 9 AM - 9:30 AM

6:30 AM - 7 AM 7:30 AM - 8 AM 8:30 AM - 9 AM 9:30 AM - 10 AM

Juices

Grapefruit; Orange:; Cranberry; V-8; Prune, Tomato

Fresh Fruit

Half Grapefruit; Sliced Bananas; Diced Oranges; Mixed Fruit; Seasonal Melons; Stewed Prunes

Low Fat Yogurt

Plain; Fruit

Breads

English Muffin; White Toast; Wheat Toast; Rye Toast; Danish; Croissant; Blueberry Muffin; Bran Muffin; Bagel

Preserves

Assorted Jams; Marmalade; Honey; Butter; Margarine; Cream Cheese

Cereals

Corn Flakes; Special K; Mueslix; Raisin Bran; Granola; Fruit Loops; Frosted Flakes; Rice Krispies; Shredded Wheat

With: Milk; 2% Milk; Skim Milk

Eggs & Meats

Two Eggs: Scrambled or sunnyside up or over easy

Omelet: With Cheese or With Ham and Cheese

Eggbeaters: Scrambled or Omelet with Cheese or Omelet with Ham and Cheese

Meat: Ham or Sausage or Bacon

Beverages

Regular Coffee; Decaf Coffee; Tea; Hot Chocolate; Milk; 2% Milk; Skim Milk; Half & Half

 

If you can wait until the main dining room opens -- usually 7:30 on port days and 8 on sea days, you can write in anything you want like Eggs Benedict. Waffles, Chocolate croisonts, etc.

[Krazy Kruizers]

Available 24 hours:

 

Smoked Atlantic Salmon - pickled red onion, capers & cream cheese

 

Mesclun Garden Greens - tomato, cucumber, alfalfa sprouts & blue cheese crumbles

 

Triple Decker Club Sandwich - sliced turkey, ham, bacon, tomato & lettuce served on toasted bread of your choice

 

All American Hamburger - broiled 1/4 pound beef patty on a sesame bun with dill pickle & coleslaw - add cheddar or Swiss cheese

 

Open faced Omelet - ham & cheese or vegetables

 

Selection of assorted cheese with crackers

 

Apple tart with whipped cream

 

Chocolate cake with raspberry sauce

 

A plate of chocolate chip cookies with a glass of milk

 

Fruit salad - selected fruits in season

 

Available from 12 noon until 10 PM:

 

Appetizers & Soups:

Bay shrimp cocktail with cocktail sauce

Smoked Atlantic Salmon

French onion soup baked with Gruyere cheese

Soup of the day

 

Salads:

Mesclun Garden Greens

Chef salad - mixed greens, ham, salami, swiss cheese, turkey, hard boiled egg - choice of Italian or blue cheese dressing

Caesar salad - tossed with Caesar dressing, croutons & parmesan - add bay shrimp or grilled chicken breast

 

Sandwiches & Burgers:

All are served with a choice of potato salad or potato chips

 

Triple decker club sandwich

Broiled California chicken breast sandwich on multi=grain bread with avocado & honey mustard sauce

Grilled tuna melt - tuna salad & Swiss cheese on rye bread with pickle spears

Thai Vegetarian wrap - eggplant, bamboo shoots, bean sprouts & cilantro rolled with rice & green curry sauce in a tomato tortilla

Steak sandwich - sirloin steak on sourdough bread sauteed with onion & bell pepper

All American Hamburger

 

Entrees:

Seared salmon steak - dill-lime fusion, broccoli florets, carrot batonnet & country mashed potatoes

Penne Primavera - tossed in marinara sauce with Italian roasted vegetables - add grilled chicken breast

Pizza:

margarita (tomato sauce & cheese)

Pepperoni

Vegetarian (mushroom & bell pepper)

 

Desserts:

Apple tart

Chocolate cake

Creme caramel surrounded in berry compote

Fruit jello

fruit salad

Vanilla ice cream with chocolate sauce

Selection of assorted cheese with crackers

 

And remember that you can always order from the dinner menu. Just remember to order within the first half hour from when the dinning room opens. You can select whatever time you want to eat.

[Krazy Kruizers]

Pinnacle Lunch Menu

Menu - $10 per person.

 

Starters:

1)Grilled Prawn Bruschetta with a primavera salsa - aged asiago cheese and balsamic fusion

2)Mediterranean antipasto plate - pesto virgin olive oil

3)Scallops creme brulee - caramelized parmesean wafer

4)Northwest five onion soup - tomato shallot soubise

5)Chilled carrot and ginger soup - creme faiche and fried sage

6)Chiffanade of greens and tomato tower salad - Italian vinaigritte

Entrees:

1)Pacific rim beef salad - mesclun leaves, mangoes and lotus fruit

2)Alaskan halibut fillet sandwich - sour dough bread, cilantro relish and cucumber potato salad

3)Crab and shrimp cake - exotic fruit chutney, lime Thai curry sauce and orange rice with pine nuts

4)The Pinnacle burger - apple smoked bacon, cheddar cheese and bistro style shoestring potatoes. This dish can be served with a low carb bun and without the potatoes.

5)Sterling silver beef tenderloin with Oregon blue cheese crust - grilled asparagus and scalloped potatoes

6)Penne with grilled chicken breast, lemon basil sauce, sun dried tomatoes and arugula

7)Vegetarian couscous - grilled vegetables and fried mint leaves and harissa

Desserts:

1)Fresh strawberries with raspberry sorbet - sugar dough gaufrette

2)Chocolate brownie decadence - an explosion of chocolate

3)Orange and lime panna cotta

4)Ice creams and sorbets - ask for the day's selections

5)Fruit plate

[Krazy Kruizers]

Pinnacle Menu - $20 per person

 

The Beginning:

French Onion Soup King Louis XV - beef broth with aged cognac & caramelized onions, baked with gruyere croutons

Spicy Chicken Coconut Soup - fragrant coconut milk & lemon grass

Lobster Bisque - crème fraiche & aged sherry

Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail - brandy horseradish cocktail sauce

Vine Ripened Beefsteak Tomato Salad - sliced purple onion, balsamic vinaigrette or blue cheese dressing

Baby Arugula Salad - tossed with sliced red onion, cherry tomatoes, mushrooms and a warm bacon dressing topped with smoked bacon & chopped egg

Caesar Salad - crisp romaine tossed with very own Caesar dressing, grated parmesan cheese, garlic croutons and anchovies, prepared tableside

Dungeness Crab Cakes - spiral shaved cucumber & sweet chili-mustard sauce

Pinnacle Ocean Platter - carpaccio of lightly smoked salmon, accompanied with hot smoked salmon, sea scallops and wasabi cream

 

The Grill:

Filet Mignon, New York Strip Steak, Bone-In Rib Eye Steak, Porterhouse - served with our own hand crafted sauces: sun-dried tomato; Master Chef's green peppercorn bearnaise; horseradish mustard; hollandaise; maitre d' garlic butter

Colorado Lamb Chops - spiced apple chutney & fresh mint jelly

Grilled Veal Chop - marinated overnight in a savory blend of rosemary, garlic & pepper vinegar with scallions

Chicken Breast - stuffed with spinach & garlic herb cheese & served with lemon garlic beurre blanc sauce

Filet Steak Diane - pan-seared medallions of beef tenderloins & enriched with mushrooms & cognac

Filet Mignon Burger - a half-pound of freshly ground beef, fin herbs & truffle-infused

 

 

Sea Food:

Broiled King Salmon - troll caught (for sustainability) in Alaskan waters, quick seared & broiled, served with your choice of lemon garlic herb splash or sesame-soy kalbi

Broiled or Poached Lobster Tail - on a bed of wilted spinach & arugula, mustard seed & "mangochurri" pesto sauce or melted butter

Cedar Planked Black Cod with Shrimp Scampi - roasted garlic & cilantro butter

Pinnacle Signature Skewers:

Beef Delight - beef tenderloin marinated with parsley, onion, thyme, rosemary & marjoram

Tantalizing Lamb - lamb loins marinated with herbs, garlic, cumin, honey, coriandor & red chilies, served with yogurt sauce

Chicken & Turkey Temptation - with onion confit & tomato coulis

Deletable Seafood - shrimps & swordfish, seasoned with lemon, paprika, garlic, mustard, cayenne & dill

Vegetarian Zen - array of mixed vegetables seasoned with herbs de provence

 

 

Side Dishes:

Creamed Spinach, Sautéed Button Mushrooms, Sautéed Onions, Asparagus, Scalloped, Whipped, Jumbo Baked or Shoestring Potatoes and/or Basmati Rice

The Finale:

Not-So-Classic Baked Alaska, Warm Grand Marnier Chocolate Volcano Cake, Velvet Soufflé – Chocolate or Vanilla, Creamy Homemade Raspberry Cheesecake, Chocolate And Raisin Bread Pudding, Pinnacle Crème Brulee, Fresh Seasonal Fruits and Berries, Premium Ice Cream or Sorbets and/or the Assortment of International Cheeses.

[Krazy Kruizers]

Canaletto Menu - free

 

 

ANTIPASTI e ZUPE:

Our chef’s selection of antipasti, cucumber and olives

 

Insalata Canaletto – Seasonal greens and tomato, cucumber and olives

 

Minestrone – A flavorful tomato broth consisting of white beans, pasta shells, fresh vegetables and thyme

 

Zuppe Di Pesce – Assorted seafood simmered with vegetables, tomatoes, flat parsley and saffron

 

PASTA, CARNE, PESCE e POLLO

Penne Alla Vodka – A deliciously light combination of our Pomodoro sauce, cream and vodka

 

Linguini Frutti Di Mare – Linguini pasta and clams, mussels, shrimps and scallops tossed in garlic, onions and cherry tomatoes

 

Baked Meat Lasagna Pomodoro – Baked with meat and tomato sauce and gratinated with four cheese sauce.

 

Veal Milanese – Breaded veal scaloppini with porcini mushrooms, spaghetti and vegetables

 

Chicken Marsala Scaloppini – Tender Scallops of chicken breast glazed with Marsala wine. Served with linguini pasta tossed with tomato and roasted garlic

 

Cod Putanesca – Marinated in lemon, oregano and olive oil, quickly sautéed and coated with a flavorful herbed tomato concassee with kalamata olives, capers and chopped parsley, served with grilled cheese polenta and balsamic glace

 

Spaghetti with Meatballs – The classic way to eat spaghetti; home made meatballs braised in a tomato and meat sauce served over olive oil tossed spaghetti

 

DOLCI

Trio of Tiramisu – Italy’s most famous dessert: presented in three flavored variations, espresso, lemon and Amaretto

 

Limoncello Crème – Refreshing crème topped with Tuscan lemon liqueur

 

Mille-Feuille of Madagascar Chocolate – With walnut praline and ice-cream

 

Gelato – A refreshing and full-flavored selection: strawberry, mango, vanilla and lemon

[wines60]

Any recommendations from the Pinacle lunch menu?

[packedandready]

WOW......thanks for all the pictures, history and menus.

 

I went to HAL's website to do a dummy booking for prices and cabins and didn't find it to be a very friendly site (I need simple). Is there a way to find what cabins are available?

 

I've always booked directly with the cruise line. Is there an advantage to book with a TA? I like the idea of being in control of my reservations. RCCL and X doesn't allow TAs to discount, what about HAL?

[cmdchiefthom]

Wow, I'm hungry, 31 days and a wake-up before we hit the Pinnacle Grill!:D

[yojohn]

Available 24 hours:

 

Smoked Atlantic Salmon - pickled red onion, capers & cream cheese

 

Mesclun Garden Greens - tomato, cucumber, alfalfa sprouts & blue cheese crumbles

 

Triple Decker Club Sandwich - sliced turkey, ham, bacon, tomato & lettuce served on toasted bread of your choice

 

All American Hamburger - broiled 1/4 pound beef patty on a sesame bun with dill pickle & coleslaw - add cheddar or Swiss cheese

 

Open faced Omelet - ham & cheese or vegetables

 

Selection of assorted cheese with crackers

 

Apple tart with whipped cream

 

Chocolate cake with raspberry sauce

 

A plate of chocolate chip cookies with a glass of milk

 

Fruit salad - selected fruits in season

 

Available from 12 noon until 10 PM:

 

Appetizers & Soups:

Bay shrimp cocktail with cocktail sauce

Smoked Atlantic Salmon

French onion soup baked with Gruyere cheese

Soup of the day

 

Salads:

Mesclun Garden Greens

Chef salad - mixed greens, ham, salami, swiss cheese, turkey, hard boiled egg - choice of Italian or blue cheese dressing

Caesar salad - tossed with Caesar dressing, croutons & parmesan - add bay shrimp or grilled chicken breast

 

Sandwiches & Burgers:

All are served with a choice of potato salad or potato chips

 

Triple decker club sandwich

Broiled California chicken breast sandwich on multi=grain bread with avocado & honey mustard sauce

Grilled tuna melt - tuna salad & Swiss cheese on rye bread with pickle spears

Thai Vegetarian wrap - eggplant, bamboo shoots, bean sprouts & cilantro rolled with rice & green curry sauce in a tomato tortilla

Steak sandwich - sirloin steak on sourdough bread sauteed with onion & bell pepper

All American Hamburger

 

Entrees:

Seared salmon steak - dill-lime fusion, broccoli florets, carrot batonnet & country mashed potatoes

Penne Primavera - tossed in marinara sauce with Italian roasted vegetables - add grilled chicken breast

Pizza:

margarita (tomato sauce & cheese)

Pepperoni

Vegetarian (mushroom & bell pepper)

 

Desserts:

Apple tart

Chocolate cake

Creme caramel surrounded in berry compote

Fruit jello

fruit salad

Vanilla ice cream with chocolate sauce

Selection of assorted cheese with crackers

 

And remember that you can always order from the dinner menu. Just remember to order within the first half hour from when the dinning room opens. You can select whatever time you want to eat.

Krazy,

You are awesome thanks for all the info And Copper too! this is a great Site because of people like you Thanks

[IRL_Joanie]

any info about this ship...and things I might not learn about from HAL's website. Thanks

 

Adult pool areas???

Restaurants?? Cafes??

Room Service?? Extra Fee??

Any place to get cookies??:D

 

On top of all the other great info you've already received, check out the photos and descriptions from Cruise Critic members and interior and ship photos here: http://joanjett2000.topcities.com/HAL/Zuiderdam/index.html

 

Joanie

[LindaKE]

What is the correct way to pronounce Zuiderdam? ZYE der dam? Does it rhyme with ham or with the French pronunciation of Madam (sort of ahhm)?

 

I found the ZYE part listed as one of several phonetic spellings when I googled it, but there didn't seem to be any elaboration for the dam part.

[cheric]

Zye der dam (rhymes with ham). We were on her this month and had a great cruise to the Panama Canal.

[Mpowered]

The best I've heard is to pronounce it like apple cider. CIDER-dam. :-)

 

Joan

[Himself]

John:

You know alot about this ship. Thanks for sharing vauable information about this ship. I think a lot of the controversey about this ship stemmed from the fact she was so much bigger that the HAL pax were used to finding on a HAL ship. This was a lot bigger than the old Westerdam II that is now with Costa, I blieve.

[jtl513]

What is the correct way to pronounce Zuiderdam? ZYE der dam? Does it rhyme with ham or with the French pronunciation of Madam (sort of ahhm)?

 

I found the ZYE part listed as one of several phonetic spellings when I googled it, but there didn't seem to be any elaboration for the dam part.

Americans almost always say it as rhyming with ham, but you might hear a Dutchman aboard say dahm or dom (rhyming with prom)

[Pam in CA]

Question: What is the dress code for the Canaletto on formal nights? As it's in the Lido, is it smart casual?

[IRL_Joanie]

What is the correct way to pronounce Zuiderdam? ZYE der dam? Does it rhyme with ham or with the French pronunciation of Madam (sort of ahhm)?

 

I found the ZYE part listed as one of several phonetic spellings when I googled it, but there didn't seem to be any elaboration for the dam part.

 

 

While speaking with the Captain of the Westerdam, a very nice Dutchman, I happened to call the Zuiderdam "Zooderdam" (dam as in Hoover Dam). Captain Beijer quickly, but politely corrected me and said it is Zee (as in See with a Z) der (as in wonder, without the won) and dawm (say dawn but replace the n with m). So then you have the correct pronounceation of "Zeederdawm".

 

Hope that helps...

 

Joanie

[LindaKE]

Americans almost always say it as rhyming with ham, but you might hear a Dutchman aboard say dahm or dom (rhyming with prom)

 

So, technically, "dahm" would be correct since it's a Dutch ship, but if you're in USA and talking to people from USA, you'd be the oddball if you said it the Dutch way.

 

Thanks!