ab0si Posted September 8, 2010 #1 Share Posted September 8, 2010 I have never been on a Holland American cruise, so please pardon a few basic questions: 1) When Holland America says "Los Angeles" do they mean San Pedro or Long Beach or ...? 2) What is the smoking policy? staterooms? public rooms? etc. Ship the Amsterdam if that makes a difference. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted September 8, 2010 #2 Share Posted September 8, 2010 The information is on the HAL site. When viewing the itinerary for your cruise just click on "Los Angeles". One of the options that is available on the page that will appear is 'departure information'. You'll no doubt find out more than you want about the pier(s). Smoking information is also easily found on the HAL site. I just did a search on smoking to come up with that link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab0si Posted September 8, 2010 Author #3 Share Posted September 8, 2010 The information is on the HAL site. When viewing the itinerary for your cruise just click on "Los Angeles". One of the options that is available on the page that will appear is 'departure information'. You'll no doubt find out more than you want about the pier(s). Smoking information is also easily found on the HAL site. I just did a search on smoking to come up with that link. Thanks. sorry I missed the smoking information on their site. Unfortunately, they give (rather complete information) on BOTH Long Beach and San Pedro for the cruise I am considering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbsurfcitycruiser Posted September 9, 2010 #4 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Hi there! All Carnival related ships use Long Beach now, so since HAL is owned by Carnival the ship should be in Long Beach, not San Pedro. This website shows the ships in port, per month: http://www.sanpedrocalendar.com/scripts/calcium310.pl?CalendarName=longbeachcruiseship&Op=ShowIt&Amount=Month&NavType=Absolute&Type=Block&Date=2010%2F12%2F1 For example in Dec you see the Amsterdam will be there. Hope this helps! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancyquilts Posted September 9, 2010 #5 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Hi there! All Carnival related ships use Long Beach now, so since HAL is owned by Carnival the ship should be in Long Beach, not San Pedro. This website shows the ships in port, per month: http://www.sanpedrocalendar.com/scripts/calcium310.pl?CalendarName=longbeachcruiseship&Op=ShowIt&Amount=Month&NavType=Absolute&Type=Block&Date=2010%2F12%2F1 For example in Dec you see the Amsterdam will be there. Hope this helps! :) What am I missing? All I see are Carnival departures, not HAL or Princess.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxout Posted September 9, 2010 #6 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Because Hal only sails from there a few times a year. Click September or December for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted September 9, 2010 #7 Share Posted September 9, 2010 The Long Beach port calendar (the link given above by hbsurfcitycruiser) for Dec 2010 shows the Amsterdam on the 22nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancyquilts Posted September 10, 2010 #8 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Because Hal only sails from there a few times a year. Click September or December for example. That's what happens when you only look at November. I still don't see Princess sailing from Long Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSULIBRARIAN Posted September 10, 2010 #9 Share Posted September 10, 2010 The Sapphire Princess sails from San Pedro - we have done so several times in the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted September 10, 2010 #10 Share Posted September 10, 2010 There is only one berth for a large cruise ship at the Long Beach Cruise terminal (the second one in the pic, Queen Mary, isn't moving;)). Carnival financed the project so they get first dibs with their two ships (Paradise Monday + Friday departures to Baja and Splendor with Saturday departures for the 7-day Mexican Riviera - Carnival Spirit will be home-based at San Pedro next year). So Fri, Sat and Mon are taken up at Long Beach. If there's another ship from the Carnival family coming to L.A. on one of those three days, they will go to San Pedro which has room for three ships at a time. HAL ships only come to L.A. anymore on either a Spring or Fall repositioning cruise to/from Vancouver/Seattle, or as part of a World and/or Grand cruise. If a HAL ship comes to L.A. on a week day, they generally go to Long Beach. Princess ships generally use San Pedro. Ships based full-time out of San Pedro at the moment are RCI's Mariner of the Seas (Sun 7-day Mexican Riviera departures), Princess' Sapphire Princess (Sat 7-day Mexican Riviera departures starting in Nov), Princess' Golden Princess (Wed bi-weekly Hawaii departures), Disney's Disney Wonder (Sun 7-day Mexican Riviera departures starting in Jan 11) and NCL's Norwegian Star (Sat 7-day Mexican Riviera departures starting in Jan 11) Very close proximity of San Pedro (underneath the Vincent Thomas Bridge) to Long Beach cruise terminals (white dome) .Monarch OTS replaced by Mariner OTS - Paradise replaced by Splendor (pic by Cuizer2). Btw, L.A. has plans to build a new cruise terminal in the outer harbor of San Pedro, in the pic right where the small boats are sailing near the piece of land that looks like an arrow head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted September 10, 2010 #11 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Copper, are they using the old spruce goose dome for the ship terminal at Long Beach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted September 10, 2010 #12 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Copper, are they using the old spruce goose dome for the ship terminal at Long Beach? Yes, Ma'am, since 2003 when Carnival put money into it and developed it into their cruise terminal (see the parking structure to the left of the dome). The walkway you see in the pic leads directly from the terminal to the boarding deck of the ship. Mr. Hughes' Spruce Goose was bought by investors, I believe in Oregon, and was moved up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverado44 Posted September 10, 2010 #13 Share Posted September 10, 2010 There is only one berth for a large cruise ship at the Long Beach Cruise terminal (the second one in the pic, Queen Mary, isn't moving;)). Carnival financed the project so they get first dibs with their two ships (Paradise Monday + Friday departures to Baja and Splendor with Saturday departures for the 7-day Mexican Riviera - Carnival Spirit will be home-based at San Pedro next year). So Fri, Sat and Mon are taken up at Long Beach. If there's another ship from the Carnival family coming to L.A. on one of those three days, they will go to San Pedro which has room for three ships at a time. /quote] Splendor leaves Long Beach on Sunday, not Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted September 10, 2010 #14 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Splendor leaves Long Beach on Sunday, not Saturday You're correct, and still in the running for the dishwasher!;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted September 10, 2010 #15 Share Posted September 10, 2010 The Zuidedam is coming into Los Angeles on May 11.2011, after a Panama Canal transit from Ft. Lauderdale. I have checked both the San Pedro and Long Beach port calenders and she does not appear on either one. How do I find out where she will dock. Marvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted September 10, 2010 #16 Share Posted September 10, 2010 The Zuidedam is coming into Los Angeles on May 11.2011, after a Panama Canal transit from Ft. Lauderdale. I have checked both the San Pedro and Long Beach port calenders and she does not appear on either one. How do I find out where she will dock. Marvin May 11 is a Wednesday so chances are she'll go to Long Beach. Call HAL Ship Services at (800) 207-3547 or at (206) 508-8518 to verify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab0si Posted September 10, 2010 Author #17 Share Posted September 10, 2010 May 11 is a Wednesday so chances are she'll go to Long Beach. Call HAL Ship Services at (800) 207-3547 or at (206) 508-8518 to verify Thanks to hbsurf and others who were kind enough to answer my "which port" question. Copper: Actually, I did call (and email) Holland America. The results: call: hang on while I look it up... hmm, both ports are listed; hang on ... San Pedro. No, Long Beach .. I think. email: Long Beach At any rate, thanks all for your help. I am looking forward to my first HAL cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted September 11, 2010 #18 Share Posted September 11, 2010 Just spoke with a young lady at HAL and she assured me that we would be docking in San Pedro on May 11th. Marvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill S Posted September 11, 2010 #19 Share Posted September 11, 2010 ab0si: always good to see a fellow amateur radio op on HAL! :) We have sailed on the Amsterdam several times, she is one of our most favorite HAL ships. Hope you like HAL. de w7hmv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab0si Posted September 11, 2010 Author #20 Share Posted September 11, 2010 ab0si: always good to see a fellow amateur radio op on HAL! :) We have sailed on the Amsterdam several times, she is one of our most favorite HAL ships. Hope you like HAL. de w7hmv. Thanks, Bill. You've been hamming a lot longer than me. I, too, fell in love with county hunting. I have all but one (bet you can guess which one is missing). We used to cruise on the Marco Polo (before Norwegian bought and destroyed it). Since then it has been Crystal .. which means rather infrequent cruising due to the cost.:) My brother and his family are on the Panama Canal cruise on HAL, so I decided to tag along. 73 de AB0SI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Working 2 Cruise Posted September 24, 2010 #21 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Hi there! All Carnival related ships use Long Beach now, so since HAL is owned by Carnival the ship should be in Long Beach, not San Pedro. :) Princess is also owned by Carnival Corp. and we do sail from San Pedro!:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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