Cruzin 1025 Posted June 20, 2011 #1 Share Posted June 20, 2011 USA Today just posted that Princess has canceled calls to Puerto Vallarta for the rest of the year. http://travel.usatoday.com/cruises/post/2011/06/princess-cruises-ship-puerto-vallarta-mazatlan-mexico-cancel/175043/1?csp=fbcruise Per John Heald, no plans at the moment for Carnival to do the same. John Heald I checked with a senior beard who says " we have no plans to discontinue calls to Puerto Vallarta"........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrounds Posted June 20, 2011 #2 Share Posted June 20, 2011 This after Carnival (SPLENDOR) has just re-instated Mazatlan as a port call this Fall ? ? ? Same company with different directions of its subsidiaries, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencercoop Posted June 20, 2011 #3 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Since Princess canceled PV, it leaves their Mexican Riviera itinerary to be an undesirable one. 2 Days in Cabo and 1 Day in Ensenada. Not exactly the nicest itinerary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted June 20, 2011 #4 Share Posted June 20, 2011 "No plans" is about the same as "No Comment" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyroguy Posted June 20, 2011 #5 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I'm wondering what's the reasoning behind this move? Isn't Carnival opening itself up to potential liability if a passenger is assaulted (or worse) in Puerto Vallarta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgm61 Posted June 21, 2011 #6 Share Posted June 21, 2011 In May, a Canadian man living in Puerto Vallarta was stabbed to death and robbed in his home. Princess declined to say how the incident, or any other specific incident, informed the deployment changes. This is like saying someone was shot in LA so we better not go. What a bunch of bs. So the iten. change is 2 cabo days and Ensenada which I would do if it was me. In March Spirit had 2 Cabo days and people stayed in Cabo overnight, yes taking the chances with the weather and all but if they report is favorable then do it. They talked to John Heald and he gave the go ahead with the weather stipulation. Everybody is talking about Santa Barbara and San Fran. as port destinations. That is not what I would take a cruise for. I can drive to those cities and stay cheaply enough. I guess we have our government to thank for supplying arms to Mexico. Some idiot thought they could track the guns and get the cartels that way. What a joke. The leadership of the ATF should all be fired. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartsailing Posted June 21, 2011 #7 Share Posted June 21, 2011 It was the DOJ and senior members of the executive branch that authorized it. Its a shame that cartels have been allowed to take over that country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitemyfly Posted June 21, 2011 #8 Share Posted June 21, 2011 It was the DOJ and senior members of the executive branch that authorized it. Its a shame that cartels have been allowed to take over that country. Its a shame what has happened to mexico.. its been a steady downhill slope for a Long long time..corrupt its a just a matter of time till it spreads to the other side ( carrib) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boaterette Posted June 21, 2011 #9 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I sure hope they don't stop going there. Cabo to me is barely worth one day of visiting. Especially in the winter months when the ocean is too cold to swim in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissDiva1 Posted June 21, 2011 #10 Share Posted June 21, 2011 It was the DOJ and senior members of the executive branch that authorized it. Its a shame that cartels have been allowed to take over that country. What does this have to do with the cartels:confused: Sounds more like a fuel savings to me..........for christs sake Ensenada is closer to the corrupt border towns than P.V. I call B.S.:rolleyes: I don't see anyone wanting to do this itinerary so eventually they will be taking Princess out of the West Coast also....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargate fan Posted June 21, 2011 #11 Share Posted June 21, 2011 That's a shame. We were on a Mexican Riviera cruise back in April and found Puerto Vallarta to be wonderful. We even walked blocks away from the tourist area and felt totally safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highbypass Turbofan Posted June 21, 2011 #12 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Since Princess canceled PV, it leaves their Mexican Riviera itinerary to be an undesirable one. 2 Days in Cabo and 1 Day in Ensenada. Not exactly the nicest itinerary. I always felt like I would be getting ripped off if I purchased a cruise that stops in one port for 2 days.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamirish Posted June 21, 2011 #13 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I always felt like I would be getting ripped off if I purchased a cruise that stops in one port for 2 days.. My thoughts exactly!! If they change the itinerary after you book it - you should be able to cancel without penalty - other than weather or a true safety issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halos Posted June 21, 2011 #14 Share Posted June 21, 2011 An NCL passenger was just mugged in Bermuda...fortunately the cruise passenger got the best of the guy...anyway, if you can get attacked in Bermuda, you can get attacked anywhere. If a cruise line pulled out of PV, it was a financial decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobius360 Posted June 21, 2011 #15 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I hope this doesn't go over to Carnival. Cruise isn't until October and this is the stop we are the most excited about. As far as I know Mazatlan was recently just added back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonit964 Posted June 21, 2011 #16 Share Posted June 21, 2011 What does this have to do with the cartels:confused: Sounds more like a fuel savings to me..........for christs sake Ensenada is closer to the corrupt border towns than P.V. I call B.S.:rolleyes:I don't see anyone wanting to do this itinerary so eventually they will be taking Princess out of the West Coast also....... This is what my DH thinks also. Fuel savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanaimobound Posted June 21, 2011 #17 Share Posted June 21, 2011 No way is this a safety issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavners5 Posted June 21, 2011 #18 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Our family just got off the Splendor on Sunday. We had no problems in PV , and would have liked to have spent another day there. We did a Pirate Adventure, and it took most of the day...but our tablemates had no problems either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAMommy Posted June 21, 2011 #19 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hmmmm, so if CCL does cancel PV, will I be able to change my cruise to another itinerary? 2013 is a long way out and things may smooth over by then but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissDiva1 Posted June 21, 2011 #20 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hmmmm, so if CCL does cancel PV, will I be able to change my cruise to another itinerary? 2013 is a long way out and things may smooth over by then but still... There is nothing to smooth over......heck the way things are going by 2013 there might not be any ships left of the west coast...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe13 Posted June 22, 2011 #21 Share Posted June 22, 2011 It is about perception and a political pee pee match. People perceive PV, et al, as dangerous and drug/gang infested. Therefore bookings on Princess are down on these itineraries. Princess tells the Mexican tourism ministry that they are pulling out until the perception is that things are safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie562 Posted June 22, 2011 #22 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Princess could of at least replaced Ensenada with La Paz. La Paz didn't have much to do when I went but it sure is better than Ensenada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissDiva1 Posted June 22, 2011 #23 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Princess could of at least replaced Ensenada with La Paz. La Paz didn't have much to do when I went but it sure is better than Ensenada Ensenada is closer......less fuel....they can just anchor outside of Ensenada on their last sea day..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie562 Posted June 22, 2011 #24 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Ensenada is closer......less fuel.... Yes Ensenada it is closer but La Paz is not that much further from Cabo. It's only a 2 hour drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissDiva1 Posted June 22, 2011 #25 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Yes Ensenada it is closer but La Paz is not that much further from Cabo. It's only a 2 hour drive Yes I know where La Paz is.......I have been there twice.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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