Balcony cabin AC on Allure (problem)

[phoenix1181]

I have a couple of questions.

 

Is it really that hard to stop dressing or doing your hair to let your husband or cabin mate in?

 

Wasn't there also a problem with the air-conditioning in neighboring cabins when the balcony doors were left open?

 

Seems to me the "it's my vacation & I can do what I want" group have done it again.

[Smurphy]

I have a couple of questions.

 

Is it really that hard to stop dressing or doing your hair to let your husband or cabin mate in?

 

Wasn't there also a problem with the air-conditioning in neighboring cabins when the balcony doors were left open?

 

Seems to me the "it's my vacation & I can do what I want" group have done it again.

 

Not at all. If I'm dressing or doing my hair I would have no problem with that. What if I'm napping?? He has to knock on the door and wake me up to get back in?? What if I'm at the casino or the pool or wherever and my hubby wants to relax on the balcony and he is the only one there so cannot lock the balcony door. When I get back to the cabin it will be steaming hot??

 

Or what if we both want to sit out on the balcony for awhile before we go to bed? When we go back into the cabin to go to bed it's hot in there??

 

This has nothing to do with "it's my vacation & I can do what I want" it's about being able to enjoy your balcony without losing your air conditioning!! We pay alot of money for our balconies and I don't think it is unfair or selfish to want to have it cool.:confused: Jeezzz.... I hope you are never out on your balcony with the door locked and one of your cabinmates forgets you are out there and decides to leave the room and go to the pool for the day :)

 

Someone mentioned earlier...the perfect solution would be to be able to lock the door from both the inside and the outside.

[Clarea]

I would also like to know whether this is true on Freedom. My husband likes to sit on the balcony with a drink while I'm getting dressed for dinner. I REALLY don't want to deal with no AC while using a hairdryer, electric curlers,etc.!

So far, I've only heard of the locked door required for A/C on Oasis and Allure.

 

The other ships (including Freedom) do require the sliding door to be closed (but not locked) for the A/C to function.

[Trainman-2]

I am posting "Live" from the Oasis...

 

It has not been a problem for us.

 

We keep the door closed and locked except for when we are on the balcony and then we keep it closed but unlocked.

 

We have had no problems with the room getting too warm.

 

 

I talked with the Ship's Maintenance Office or Boarding Day. Their computer can "see" my cabin and knows it the door is open or closed and not locked. She told me that the people in our cabin the week ahead of me kept their thermostat set on warm and slept with the door wide open every night.

 

Since then, no problems with it at all.

 

We are both smokers and are on and off the balcony all of the time.

 

The room is still cool!

[phoenix1181]

Not at all. If I'm dressing or doing my hair I would have no problem with that. What if I'm napping?? He has to knock on the door and wake me up to get back in?? What if I'm at the casino or the pool or wherever and my hubby wants to relax on the balcony and he is the only one there so cannot lock the balcony door. When I get back to the cabin it will be steaming hot??

 

Or what if we both want to sit out on the balcony for awhile before we go to bed? When we go back into the cabin to go to bed it's hot in there??

 

This has nothing to do with "it's my vacation & I can do what I want" it's about being able to enjoy your balcony without losing your air conditioning!! We pay alot of money for our balconies and I don't think it is unfair or selfish to want to have it cool.:confused: Jeezzz.... I hope you are never out on your balcony with the door locked and one of your cabinmates forgets you are out there and decides to leave the room and go to the pool for the day :)

 

Someone mentioned earlier...the perfect solution would be to be able to lock the door from both the inside and the outside.

 

Although I wasn't specific, I was addressing the posts complaining that their husband liked to have a drink on the balcony while they got ready for dinner. Naps or being alone in the cabin wasn't mentioned because they are two of the many problems with the design.

 

IMHO, this is all about "it's my vacation & I can do what I want" . Those cruisers who insisted on leaving their balcony doors open so they could "hear" the ocean gave no consideration to the ships' AC system &/or the comfort of those in cabins on the same circuit. As a result, Oasis & Allure were designed to prevent this from happening which is a major inconvenience to a lot of us.

[Bakincakes]

I have a couple of questions.

 

Is it really that hard to stop dressing or doing your hair to let your husband or cabin mate in?

 

Wasn't there also a problem with the air-conditioning in neighboring cabins when the balcony doors were left open?

 

Seems to me the "it's my vacation & I can do what I want" group have done it again.

 

 

Supposedly there was an issue with the AC in neighboring cabins when balcony doors were left open. Signs were posted by balcony doors and ignored by a good many pax who felt that their "right" to listen to the waves when they slept outweighed every other consideration.

 

So now RCI had made certain that their wishes will be complied with by rigging the AC to be disabled if the balcony doors are not locked.

 

I feel badly for everyones inconvenience but don't blame RCI, blame the idiots that just couldn't bring themselves to comply with a simple request.:(

[Into the Sun]

idea that when the door is not locked on the Oasis and Allure that the AC is not running. I don't recall seeing a sign about it either (just sailed Oasis on 8/27), but, that does tell me why I couldn't get the room to the temp I like (which is ICE BOX). I also didn't know about the master switch. I shut it off each time we left the room during the day to conserve energy, now know why the cabin wasn't as cold as I like. Will keep a walkie-talkie with me next time on balcony just in case hubby has to lock the door. Thanks for the heads up!

[kyriecat]

Thank you, Clarea. On Liberty I plan to keep the door closed if I am out on the balcony during hubby's naptime but do not want to keep it locked. I assume that will prevent AC issues for both my husband and any other cabins on that ventilation circuit.

 

I just realzed that my parents' patio door has the perfect solution for the AC problem. Their sliding door has both a latch and a lock. When you slide the door closed, it automatically latches but does not lock. You have to pull up on the handle then slide the door back. If you try to just slide the door back without pulling up on the handle, the door will not open. If the lock is twisted, then the door handle cannot be pulled up to slide open the door.

 

RC should have used something like that for their doors. If the door is closed and latched, whether locked or not, the AC could be on. It seems so easy.

[Bakincakes]

Thank you, Clarea. On Liberty I plan to keep the door closed if I am out on the balcony during hubby's naptime but do not want to keep it locked. I assume that will prevent AC issues for both my husband and any other cabins on that ventilation circuit.

 

I just realzed that my parents' patio door has the perfect solution for the AC problem. Their sliding door has both a latch and a lock. When you slide the door closed, it automatically latches but does not lock. You have to pull up on the handle then slide the door back. If you try to just slide the door back without pulling up on the handle, the door will not open. If the lock is twisted, then the door handle cannot be pulled up to slide open the door.

 

RC should have used something like that for their doors. If the door is closed and latched, whether locked or not, the AC could be on. It seems so easy.

 

 

The signs in the cabins that asked for doors to be kept closed were "simple" as well and ignored. Evidently it is the lock mechanism that alerts the crew a door is open and the AC shuts off.

 

RCI made sure their wishes were going to be followed. I don't blame them. If they had made an "easy" solution pax would have found a way around that too.

[kyriecat]

I haven't been on either Allure or Oasis so I'm making an assumption. There is probably a limit switch or pressure indicator rigged to the locking mechanism that sends a signal to the air conditioning and to a control room when the lock is engaged. The same switch/indicator could be rigged to a latch instead of to a lock. The door must be closed to run the air conditioning but you wouldn't have to lock your companions out on the balcony. It accomplishes the same thing - door open, no air.

 

I would never sleep with the balcony door open at night, even to listen to the waves. I had a bat flying around my balcony once. I do not want that to get into my cabin while I'm sleeping!!! However, I would like to sit on the balcony with the door closed and not have the cabin turn into an oven while I'm outside because the door isn't locked.

[truck72003]

I'm disabled and spend a great deal of time on my balcony while the rest of the family roams the ship or goes ashore. I do enjoy rolling out to the balcony while they are gone, but find the room gets very warm while I'm out there.

 

If they want to continue the locking door policy to save on fuel ---- why not have a lock that can be opened form BOTH SIDES of the door - then this would serve their purpose and make it workable for all passengers!

 

At first I thought this was a good idea, but then I'm thinking it would be too easy for your neighbor to swing over Tarzan-style and let themselves in...

[jmf123]

I would never sleep with the balcony door open at night, even to listen to the waves. I had a bat flying around my balcony once. I do not want that to get into my cabin while I'm sleeping!!!

 

kyriecat, I heard about a bat in a stateroom once and I also don't leave my door open. Beware of interior bats... check out Trainman2's current 'Live from the Oasis' thread. His post #486 on page 25! :eek:;)

[montekat]

We ran into the same problem last week on Allure. While I was getting dressed for dinner, my husband would enjoy a glass of wine out on the balcony. By the time I finished my hair and makeup, the cabin was extremely stuffy and most uncomfortable to stay in. Even with the AC set at it's lowest, it took way too long to cool back down.

 

This also put a damper on having a nightcap out on the balcony before going to bed.:(

 

We were on the same cruise with you last week and we definitely noticed the AC problem. I have a thermometer on my travel clock and can tell you that the temp. in the room never got lower than 74 F and during the day frequently was between 78-80 F. We always keep the door shut when we are on the balcony, but it really makes it hard to enjoy the balcony when we go back in and it is stifling. Why bother to get a balcony if using it causes the room to heat up so much?

[sollan]

I'm no friend of AC (coming from a cold place...) and I wonder what happens if you turn OFF the AC and leave the door open while beeing in the cabin/veranda)?

Would it be any problems for anybody else?

[BillOh]

Whoever said that this design is a direct result of pax leaving their balcony doors open is exactly correct.

 

Despite posting signs requesting balcony doors be kept closed pax insisted on leaving them open for various reasons, taxing the AC. So now, once again, the selfish have ruined it for everyone.:(

 

[BillOh]

[quote name='handbellplayer']I would also like to know whether this is true on Freedom. My husband likes to sit on the balcony with a drink while I'm getting dressed for dinner. I REALLY don't want to deal with no AC while using a hairdryer, electric curlers,etc.![/QUOTE]

IT should be less of a problem in November. We were on Allure in May and had no problems. This wasn't that big of a deal.