Cigars - Enchantments of the Seas

[cruisinp]

My sister is booking the Enchantment out of Baltimore. She was told, by her TA, that cigar smoking is not allowed on your balcony. I haven't heard this before. I know that other RCI ships still allow cigar smoking on the balconies. I know that this is a hot topic and really don't want it going down the path of "I have to breath the smoke from my neighbor's balcony" I just would like to know if cigar smoking is prohibited on this ship. Thanks.

[reallyitsmema]

It depends on how you interpret the wording of the cigar policy on the cruiseline's website.

 

http://www.royalcaribbean.com/customersupport/faq/details.do?pagename=frequently_asked_questions&pnav=5&pnav=2&faqSubjectName=Onboard+Policies&faqId=3101&faqSubjectId=333&faqType=faq

 

Royal Caribbean International kindly asks all guests to please observe the non-smoking areas and to refrain from smoking pipes or cigars in any of the public areas. These requests are made to provide a comfortable shipboard environment for everyone. Guests who violate this smoking policy may be subject to further action pursuant to the "Consequences Section" of this Guest Conduct Policy.

 

Pipe and cigar smoking is only permitted within the Cigar lounge. (If no Cigar lounge exists on a particular ship, there will be a designated area for pipe and cigar smoking).

 

 

 

Some feel since your balcony is not a public space, you can smoke a cigar. Others read since it is "only permitted within the Cigar lounge" that you can't smoke a cigar on your balcony.

 

It varies on enforcement.

[cruisinp]

Thanks for your response. Oh wow, my DH and I have been on many RCI cruises and I have never read that statement to mean one cannot smoke a cigar on their balcony. We even ask the cabin steward for a cigar ashtray and he has always brought it without question. I guess that the TA interprets it to mean that you must smoke in the cigar lounge. I know that the day is coming that smoking will not be allowed on balconies and I do understand. That being said, my DH and our guy friends enjoy a good cigar and good conversation on our private balcony.

[gerif]

Thanks for your response. Oh wow, my DH and I have been on many RCI cruises and I have never read that statement to mean one cannot smoke a cigar on their balcony. We even ask the cabin steward for a cigar ashtray and he has always brought it without question. I guess that the TA interprets it to mean that you must smoke in the cigar lounge. I know that the day is coming that smoking will not be allowed on balconies and I do understand. That being said, my DH and our guy friends enjoy a good cigar and good conversation on our private balcony.

 

Well, if you do a search, you will find that security WILL stop people from smoking cigars on their "private" balcony if someone complains. Your room steward will give you anything - they want their tips. Trust me, if your DH and his guy friends are smoking cigars on the balcony anywhere near my own private balcony, a call will be made.

 

The difference is that it takes maybe 10 minutes or less to smoke a cigarette, while a cigar can last for an hour (had a grandfather who was rarely without his cigar) - and that smoke just stays there. Not pleasant at all for the neighbors who find this offensive.

[cruisinp]

Well, if you do a search, you will find that security WILL stop people from smoking cigars on their "private" balcony if someone complains. Your room steward will give you anything - they want their tips. Trust me, if your DH and his guy friends are smoking cigars on the balcony anywhere near my own private balcony, a call will be made.

 

The difference is that it takes maybe 10 minutes or less to smoke a cigarette, while a cigar can last for an hour (had a grandfather who was rarely without his cigar) - and that smoke just stays there. Not pleasant at all for the neighbors who find this offensive.

 

I am an ex-smoker and I expected a response like this. Why is it that some people have to be so nasty in their response to a simple question? I KNOW that others are offended by smoking. I know that others HATE smoke and the smokers. Guess what? I am offended by the nastiness of non-smokers. Don't get me wrong, I hate to walk thru a smoke-filled room but I am NOT rude to others about it. My momma always taught me that if you can't say anything nice -- DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL!!!

Oh, and by the way, my DH and friends smoke only when there are no others on their balcony AND when the ship is moving. See, some smokers are courteous to others.

[gerif]

I am an ex-smoker and I expected a response like this. Why is it that some people have to be so nasty in their response to a simple question? I KNOW that others are offended by smoking. I know that others HATE smoke and the smokers. Guess what? I am offended by the nastiness of non-smokers. Don't get me wrong, I hate to walk thru a smoke-filled room but I am NOT rude to others about it. My momma always taught me that if you can't say anything nice -- DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL!!!

Oh, and by the way, my DH and friends smoke only when there are no others on their balcony AND when the ship is moving. See, some smokers are courteous to others.

 

No one was being nasty or rude - just stating facts. If someone is doing something allowed by the cruiseline, then I have no problem with it (which is why I avoid the casino except for non-smoking nights) - however, if the rule is cigar smoking in certain areas only, then I would certainly complain as is my right. And cigar smoke does linger for a very long time.

[cruisinp]

Royal Caribbean International kindly asks all guests to please observe the non-smoking areas and to refrain from smoking pipes or cigars in any of the public areas. These requests are made to provide a comfortable shipboard environment for everyone. Guests who violate this smoking policy may be subject to further action pursuant to the "Consequences Section" of this Guest Conduct Policy.

 

Pipe and cigar smoking is only permitted within the Cigar lounge. (If no Cigar lounge exists on a particular ship, there will be a designated area for pipe and cigar smoking).

 

This statement from the cruise line contradicts itself. The first part asks cigar and pipe smokers to refrain from smoking in "public" areas. My balcony is NOT a public area.

The next part says it is only permitted in the cigar lounge.

 

Just as the cruise line is not clear with other rules, i.e, dress in the dining room, I really don't see how they could enforce this. My 2 cents for what it's worth.

 

Oh, and I don't even understand why gerif even responded to this thread. I asked a question and gerif didn't answer the question simply stated personal feelings about the topic.

[It'sRC4ME]

I am an non-smoker and I always find it a little weird that pipe and cigar smoking is so restricted. I personally feel that pipe/cigar smoke is much less offensive than regular cigarette smoke, and sometimes even smells nice. I would be annoyed if I had balcony neighbors constantly smoking cigarettes where I could smell them, but a cigar or pipe wouldn't bother me at all.

[SpeedGeek]

I am an non-smoker and I always find it a little weird that pipe and cigar smoking is so restricted. I personally feel that pipe/cigar smoke is much less offensive than regular cigarette smoke' date=' and sometimes even smells nice. I would be annoyed if I had balcony neighbors constantly smoking cigarettes where I could smell them, but a cigar or pipe wouldn't bother me at all.[/quote']

 

Agreed. I don't have a problem being around cigar smoke, but cigarette smoke drives me insane.

 

No one was being nasty or rude - just stating facts. If someone is doing something allowed by the cruiseline, then I have no problem with it (which is why I avoid the casino except for non-smoking nights) - however, if the rule is cigar smoking in certain areas only, then I would certainly complain as is my right. And cigar smoke does linger for a very long time.

 

1) My balcony is not a public area. Otherwise you would be free to utilize it. As it is a private area, the request of no cigar smoking in a public area doesn't apply. I do believe your complaint would go nowhere.

 

2) Cigar smoke only lingers in a lounge or other enclosed space about as much as cigarette smoke lingers. Despite being a thicker smoke (due to the larger amount of tobacco burned) all smoke follows fluid dynamics and in an open air situation cigar smoke will act just like cigarette smoke when dissipating.

[christi1805]

We complained about a cigar smoker next to our balcony and the security immediately enforced the policy -don't know though whether it was the cigar smoking policy that let them act swiftly or the fact that 5 decks below us the refulling barge was transferring some tenthousand gallons of fuel.:eek:

[MSseawind]

I don't enjoy cigar smoke, but I certainly wouldn't complain if once or twice a day my neighbor wanted to smoke a cigar on the balcony. There has to be some give and take when you have so many people together.

[silentbob007]

I don't enjoy cigar smoke, but I certainly wouldn't complain if once or twice a day my neighbor wanted to smoke a cigar on the balcony. There has to be some give and take when you have so many people together.

 

That doesn't make sense. I'm the most important person onboard and if I don't like it, it SHOULD BE BANNED.

 

;)

[Big_G]

"I am an ex-smoker and I expected a response like this. Why is it that some people have to be so nasty in their response to a simple question?"

I am a cigar smoker and I don't see any contradiction in the policy nor was there any nastiness in the response you got. It's called reality. The reality is, while I enjoy a few cigars, I know it's offensive to some people so out of courtesy, I take it took the cigar lounge or the designated area.

[Cigar King]

My sister is booking the Enchantment out of Baltimore. She was told, by her TA, that cigar smoking is not allowed on your balcony. I haven't heard this before. I know that other RCI ships still allow cigar smoking on the balconies. I know that this is a hot topic and really don't want it going down the path of "I have to breath the smoke from my neighbor's balcony" I just would like to know if cigar smoking is prohibited on this ship. Thanks.

 

I've smoked cigars on the balcony plenty of times...never a problem. We'll be on that ship in February.

[Dinkachu]

The problem with smoking ANYTHING on the balconies is that smoke travels to the other balconies.

 

And, like it or not, smoke is more than just unpleasant; second-hand smoke has been proven to have negative effects on the health of non-smokers. We've had 2 family members have severe asthma attacks after smokers from the next balcony filled our balcony with smoke.

 

We don't dislike smokers, my husband smoked for years, but we do have an issue with not being able to use our balcony because others feel it is their right to smoke.

 

Please stick to designated areas - which we avoid. We give up time in the casino so smokers can enjoy their time there. So, we feel like we should be able to enjoy our balcony without smoke.

[GEORGET]

Was on a cruise where the next cabin was a cigar smoker , he asked if i minded , he was courteous by even asking and i said Ok.

Very rarely on the 14 day cruise did we appear on the balcony at the same time.

 

As a non smoker have never been bothered by smokers, or there smoke and have done over 60 cruises in Balconies or Suites.

Mind you screaming kids and late parties on the balconies is another point

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[HTML5]

I just sailed the Enchantment Oct. 20-29 and the only officially sanctioned cigar smoking area is in the Viking Crown Lounge from 10p - 12:30a. It was never clear to me if that was the official "cigar time" or if I could light up in the lounge during the day. A call to Guest Relations did nothing the clear it up. The woman at the desk had no idea.

Also, only one section of the Viking was for cigars. I couldn't smoke in the lounge outside that area.

 

I did see a couple of guys smoking cigars in the Deck 5 promenade smoking area, but my understanding of the rules was that that isn't permitted.

 

So in the end my cigarette smoking DW and I would go to the Viking at 10p and enjoy cocktails and I'd smoke my Mundo Puro Arte Torpedo. It was all good. :)

 

[Cigar King]

The problem with smoking ANYTHING on the balconies is that smoke travels to the other balconies.

 

And, like it or not, smoke is more than just unpleasant; second-hand smoke has been proven to have negative effects on the health of non-smokers. We've had 2 family members have severe asthma attacks after smokers from the next balcony filled our balcony with smoke.

 

We don't dislike smokers, my husband smoked for years, but we do have an issue with not being able to use our balcony because others feel it is their right to smoke.

 

Please stick to designated areas - which we avoid. We give up time in the casino so smokers can enjoy their time there. So, we feel like we should be able to enjoy our balcony without smoke.

 

Sounds like you should quit getting balconies, since smoking is allowed there. There might be confusion about cigars, but, there's no confusion about cigarettes.

[cruisinp]

Since smoking is such a hot topic on the cruise ships I often wonder why they don't make one side of the ship (or part of a side) smoking on balconies and the other not. I do understand the annoyance when you are a non-smoker and try to enjoy your balcony with someone smoking out there; I also believe that the ships should try and accommodate all passengers the best they can. Anyone have any ideas why they don't allow smoking on one side and not the other? It seems to me that this would be a viable solution but maybe I have not thought of all the reasons why this would not work.

By the way, I am a non-smoker who used to smoke 2 1/2 packs a day and quit 34 years ago; my DH enjoys his cigars.

[PeterPan]

Since smoking is such a hot topic on the cruise ships I often wonder why they don't make one side of the ship (or part of a side) smoking on balconies and the other not. I do understand the annoyance when you are a non-smoker and try to enjoy your balcony with someone smoking out there; I also believe that the ships should try and accommodate all passengers the best they can. Anyone have any ideas why they don't allow smoking on one side and not the other? It seems to me that this would be a viable solution but maybe I have not thought of all the reasons why this would not work.

By the way, I am a non-smoker who used to smoke 2 1/2 packs a day and quit 34 years ago; my DH enjoys his cigars.

 

 

Sounds simple enough, until you try and keep up with the inventory of unsold rooms. What if your favorite area of the ship (for instance, aft balcony) was designated smoking. Would that be acceptable to you as a non smoker? A quick read of the boards will reveal people that have a genuine preference for one side of the ship. What if that preference becomes an issue as far as smoking/non-smoking? What happens when all of the smoking rooms sell out, and a smoker wants to book? What happens when non-smoking rooms sell out and a non-smoker wants to book?

 

Perhaps it's not so simple after all.

[Cigar King]

I think there may not always be enough smokers to fill all the balconies on one side. FWIW, my wife smokes, and I am not a fan of them either, so I can totally relate to how somebody else might not like the smell. None the less, I still think it's better to get along, so I try to accommodate the things I don't like.